Who were the inhabitants of Palestine before the Zionists?

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    Anybody that thinks there were some thriving Arab communities in "Palestine " before Zionism is delusional, the Arabs only started settling there after the Jews started returning to cultivate and revive a neglected land.

    Who were the inhabitants of "Palestine" before the Zionists?

    The disparate peoples recently assumed and purported to be "settled Arab indigenes, for a thousand years" were in fact a "heterogeneous" community with no "Palestinian" identity, and according to an official British historical analysis in 1920, no Arab identity either:

    The people west of the Jordan are not Arabs, but only Arabic-speaking. The bulk of the population are fellahin.... In the Gaza district they are mostly of Egyptian origin; elsewhere they are of the most mixed race.
    The 1911 edition of the Encyclopaedia Britannica finds the "population" of Palestine composed of so "widely differing" a group of "inhabitants" -- whose "ethnological affinities" create "early in the 20th century a list of no less than fifty languages" that "it is therefore no easy task to write concisely ... on the ethnology of Palestine." In addition to the "Assyrian, Persian and Roman" elements of ancient times, "the short-lived Egyptian government introduced into the population an element from that country which still persists in the villages." There are very large contingents from the Mediterranean countries, especially Armenia, Greece and Italy . . . Turkoman settlements ... a number of Persians and a fairly large Afghan colony . . . Motawila ... long settled immigrants from Persia ... tribes of Kurds ... German "Templar" colonies ... a Bosnian colony ... and the Circassian settlements placed in certain centres ... by the Turkish government in order to keep a restraint on the Bedouin ... a large Algerian element in the population ... still maintain(s) [while] the Sudanese have been reduced in numbers since the beginning of the 20th century.

    In the late eighteenth century, 3,000 Albanians recruited by Russians were settled in Acre. The Encyclopaedia Britannica finds "most interesting all the non-Arab communities in the country . . . the Samaritan sect in Nablus (Shechem); a gradually disappearing body" once "settled by the Assyrians to occupy the land left waste by the captivity of the Kingdom of Israel."

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    Your premise is incorrect: The correct historic geographical name of the land is Canaan or Judea. "Palestine" was a Roman invention, derived from the Romans renaming Judea (Israel) "Palaestina" after the Jewish Revolt in 135 AD, named after the Philistines, ancient enemies of the Hebrews originating from the Aegean Sea (Greece), in an effort to destroy any historical connection between Jews and Judea. "Palestine," thus, is not an Arab or Hebrew word, it is Latin-derived.

    Thus, "Palestine" is not Arab or Hebrew. The Philistines were not Arab or Hebrew. The Romans were not Arab or Hebrew.

    For this reason, "Palestine" does not exist in any ancient historical records or archaeological artifacts. Nor, does Palestine exist in the Old Testament, the New Testament or the Quran.

    "Palestine" was revived by the British in the 20th century during the British Mandate, when both Jews and Arabs were known as Palestinians, though, Arabs resisted the description.

    Palestine and Palestinians are both fictions.

    Jews lived in Judea for at least 2,000 years before Arabs and Muslims, who invaded Judea in 636 CE and conquered it from the Byzantines, when Jews lived in the land since at least 1200-1300 BCE.
     
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    I know all that.. I fucked up I meant to put the word "Palestine" in quotes I'll fix it, I'm just making the point that there was no thriving Arab communities in that region before the Zionist movement started.
     
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    Check out "innocents abroad" It is a good read and it is pretty educational about what life was like there before the jews came back in big numbers.
     
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    There was an Arab community prior to the Zionist movement, though Arabs iidentified mostly as Muslims, not Arabs, since the 7th century. Arab nationalism lasted for about 2 years in the mid-20th century when Egypt and Syria tried to establish an Arab movement which fizzled.
     
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    Where are all the Palestinians at?

    Mark Twain...
    Innocents Abroad - Chapter LVI by Mark Twain
     
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    Sounds like the good ole US of A :razz:

    Well they there now, an you better get used to it cause they ain't goin nowhere fast :lol:

    Interesting that you make the point that the Palestinians are only there as recently as the vast majority of Israelis, so its quits on that even if one accepted your premise...
     
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    Israel did not exist before 1948. Palestine did. That simple fact alone tells you were justice lies in this matter!**

    “The population of Palestine, predominantly agricultural, was about 690,000 in 1914, 535,000 Muslims; 70,000 Christians, most of whom were Arabs; and 85,000 Jews." (Encyclopaedia Britannica).**

    There was no substantial Jewish population until after ww2 when Jews were 'imported'. Often wealthy Zionists financed them. Wealthy Zionists who incidentally, decided to remain were they where!**

    The Chinese have used similar tactics, massive immigration, to subjugate Tibet, a similar crime against humanity.**
     
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    The old lie that Palestine was dry desert waiting for a people is just that--a lie. This clip for all people to see the Beauty of the Palestinian People before they were ethnically cleansed and murdered and made into refugees by the State of Israel.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEBQ_bE7uA[/ame]
     

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