Who Was the Greatest President?

[code1211]

Pffffft!!

Lincoln was an unabashed racist, and thought blacks were incapable of self-governance.

He freed the slaves! Fought an unpopular war! Invited the first black man to the white house - Fredrick Douglas (excluding those who build it). He was a big reason for the 13th and 14h amendment, not to mention the Civil Rights Act of 1868!

Yea he was a HUGE asshole to African Americans!

He didn't free the slaves cause he loved them so much, he did it because he was a free-soiler (a racist ideology that advocated removing all blacks, free or slave, outside the United States), and he only wrote the Emancipation Proclomation to further his cause for war.

And your right, the war was unpopular, because he micromanaged the killing of southern civilians. He even signed an order making every woman in New Orleans a prostitute so the invading northern armies could legally rape them.
The war was about States Rights and Economics, not slavery.

BTW, the 14th ammendment was passed after he had died, over the Veto of his successer... Johnson. I actually blame Northern policy for the institutionalization of segregation in the south, which had originated in the Northern States.

I highly recoment Thomas DiLorenzo's "The Real Lincoln" and "Lincoln Unmasked". Great informative books.

Do you have a link for the highlighted claim?

 

[keee keee]

sunni man getting old real quick calling someone a racist cause they disagree or don't support your messia Obama. If he was purple I would still not support this liberal socialist!!!!

 

[Elutherian]

He freed the slaves! Fought an unpopular war! Invited the first black man to the white house - Fredrick Douglas (excluding those who build it). He was a big reason for the 13th and 14h amendment, not to mention the Civil Rights Act of 1868!

Yea he was a HUGE asshole to African Americans!

He didn't free the slaves cause he loved them so much, he did it because he was a free-soiler (a racist ideology that advocated removing all blacks, free or slave, outside the United States), and he only wrote the Emancipation Proclomation to further his cause for war.

And your right, the war was unpopular, because he micromanaged the killing of southern civilians. He even signed an order making every woman in New Orleans a prostitute so the invading northern armies could legally rape them.
The war was about States Rights and Economics, not slavery.

BTW, the 14th ammendment was passed after he had died, over the Veto of his successer... Johnson. I actually blame Northern policy for the institutionalization of segregation in the south, which had originated in the Northern States.

I highly recoment Thomas DiLorenzo's "The Real Lincoln" and "Lincoln Unmasked". Great informative books.

Do you have a link for the highlighted claim?

General Benjamin Butler & the threat of sexual violence during the American Civil War | Daedalus | Find Articles at BNET

 

[JakeStarkey]

General Butler basically stated in his order that southern women who insulted Union soldiers in public in New Orelans would be treated as women plying their profession. I have to say the women got off far too easily.

 

[Elutherian]

General Butler basically stated in his order that southern women who insulted Union soldiers in public in New Orelans would be treated as women plying their profession. I have to say the women got off far too easily.

Insult a gunman occupying your city, get raped legally.

Seems fair.

 

[mal]

HILLARY!... The 90's were GREAT Economically!



peace...

 

[JakeStarkey]

General Butler basically stated in his order that southern women who insulted Union soldiers in public in New Orelans would be treated as women plying their profession. I have to say the women got off far too easily.

Insult a gunman occupying your city, get raped legally.

Seems fair.

Nobody is talking rape. Butler is telling southern women to be polite or they will be talked to as if they are prostitutes. That seems fair.

 

[Old Rocks]

The white women in New Orleans had a habit of emptying their chamber pots from the second floor just as Union soldiers were passing beneath. That kind of thing tends to put an occupying army in a bad temprement.

 

[Toro]

James Polk



















I have no idea...

 

[Polk]

I'm a big fan of Lincoln and FDR, as well as some that never appear on the lists like George H.W. Bush, but for the greatest President in US history you have to go with Washington.

George Washington could have been king if he wanted, or at the very least President for life. Instead he set the precedent of serving only 2 terms, instituted a lot of the traditions of the Presidency, and guided a young and weak nation through some of its most vulnerable periods.

I disagree with this notion that Washington was such a great president. A great leader? Yes. The most important figure in American history? Yes. His achievements while in office though really aren't that impressive.

 

[Polk]

Your African American no? I can't believe anyone would say that about Lincoln!

That would be like an African American insulting Fredrick Douglas or MLK!

Pffffft!!

Lincoln was an unabashed racist, and thought blacks were incapable of self-governance.

You know, I'd rather someone dislike some feature of me then not even consider me as human.

 

[Polk]

Sigh. Query Alexander Stephens and the Cornerstone Speech in 1861. And get back to us what the contemporaries in the Civil War that the prime cause of the war to be.

Jefferson Davis' speech on the formation of the Confederacy (his innaguration) didn't mention the word Slavery one single time.

Maybe he didn't get the memo...

Look at the succession resolutions passed by the states...

 

[Polk]

James Polk









I have no idea...

One of the best and surely the most underrated.

 

[mal]

James Polk









I have no idea...

One of the best and surely the most underrated.

^Polkfan.



peace...