Who thinks 9/11 was an inside Job?

[elvis]

Should we give eots more respect than Bobo? After all, eots seems to be non-partisan.

 

[elvis]

Do you have any articles that tell of Clinton saying BACK OFF of Bin Ladin?

I saved a bunch of Time Mags from the 90's. You find all kinds of shit in there that back then didn't mean anything but today makes you wonder.

I don't doubt it when it comes to the Clinton's.

He was a good centrist president, but for sure he sold out to the rich.

But they didn't fuck the middle class over on Clinton's watch, so he goes down as a good president, just like Ronald Reagan. But today we see that Bill went a long with a lot of things that led us to the mess we are in. No doubt about that. Not saying they weren't dirty.

Which is why I voted for Obama over Hillary. Was Hillary losing on purpose or by design? No. Its the things Bill did that made me not vote for Hillary. I knew she didn't represent change.

Now I hope/think Obama is that change. But he isn't going to change things as much as I want, and certainly not as much as you want.

Do you know why? Because the American voters are really dumb and easily manipulated by the corporate media.

So don't expect too much change when the average American is as dumb as they are now.

Just look at how they react to the idea that bush knew 9-11 was coming. Why would they doubt the possibility? Especially right wingers who insist the government is the enemy!

So I'm still a HUGE Obama supporter.

Its up to him to prove you wrong.

The same corporate media that was in bed with Obama from Day 1?

You only think they were in bed with him from day one.

When you are money like he is, it is hard to be against him.

It would have been obvious if they tried any harder to knock him down. That's one of the reasons race helped him. Can't pick on the black guy. Same reason being a woman helped Hillary.

Trust me, they tried their hardest to help Hillary get the lead back, but it was too late. Remember, the press was helping Hillary eek back into a tie and she couldn't possibly win, so she/the Dem elders cut Obama a deal. Sell out and we'll let you be the nominee.

So he hired Hillary and god knows what else. Oh yea, passed that FISA bill holding his nose.

It took the Super Delegates to break away from Hillary before the media gave up on her.

And you guys want to call it a liberal media for this? That's your proof? Or you don't even really offer any proof. You just call it liberal media? Even though we know neo cons bought up all the media since 96 and now 5 rich families own it all?

and you give all the proof on earth that Bush was responsible for 9/11.

 

[sealybobo]

Should we give eots more respect than Bobo? After all, eots seems to be non-partisan.

So the only people that get any respect here are non partisans and right wingers?

Almost all of the people I argue with are republicans or republicans in denial. You may refer to them as Libertarians.

So you right and far right cock suckers want to kick out the guy who belongs to the party that runs your fucking country?

I see, a closed door meeting of neo nuts. I'm out!!!

And I won't tell anyone I was here.

 

[elvis]

Should we give eots more respect than Bobo? After all, eots seems to be non-partisan.

So the only people that get any respect here are non partisans and right wingers?

Almost all of the people I argue with are republicans or republicans in denial. You may refer to them as Libertarians.

So you right and far right cock suckers want to kick out the guy who belongs to the party that runs your fucking country?

I see, a closed door meeting of neo nuts. I'm out!!!

And I won't tell anyone I was here.

Keep typing. Your intelligence shows more and more with every post.

 

[sealybobo]

The same corporate media that was in bed with Obama from Day 1?

You only think they were in bed with him from day one.

When you are money like he is, it is hard to be against him.

It would have been obvious if they tried any harder to knock him down. That's one of the reasons race helped him. Can't pick on the black guy. Same reason being a woman helped Hillary.

Trust me, they tried their hardest to help Hillary get the lead back, but it was too late. Remember, the press was helping Hillary eek back into a tie and she couldn't possibly win, so she/the Dem elders cut Obama a deal. Sell out and we'll let you be the nominee.

So he hired Hillary and god knows what else. Oh yea, passed that FISA bill holding his nose.

It took the Super Delegates to break away from Hillary before the media gave up on her.

And you guys want to call it a liberal media for this? That's your proof? Or you don't even really offer any proof. You just call it liberal media? Even though we know neo cons bought up all the media since 96 and now 5 rich families own it all?

and you give all the proof on earth that Bush was responsible for 9/11.

Confronted with logic and details, pussies like you usually change the subject.

PS. I lay out a lot of facts that don't add up and suggest Bush might have known 9-11 was coming and didn't do anything about it because he was going to use it to sell us on his radical agenda.

I didn't say I proved Bush did anything. I know there is proof Bush did other things, like lie, but he didn't get impeached for it, so idiots like you keep running your mouth, as if you don't understand why he wasn't impeached. Don't ask, it's over your tiny head.

Anyways, run along now.

 

[elvis]

You only think they were in bed with him from day one.

When you are money like he is, it is hard to be against him.

It would have been obvious if they tried any harder to knock him down. That's one of the reasons race helped him. Can't pick on the black guy. Same reason being a woman helped Hillary.

Trust me, they tried their hardest to help Hillary get the lead back, but it was too late. Remember, the press was helping Hillary eek back into a tie and she couldn't possibly win, so she/the Dem elders cut Obama a deal. Sell out and we'll let you be the nominee.

So he hired Hillary and god knows what else. Oh yea, passed that FISA bill holding his nose.

It took the Super Delegates to break away from Hillary before the media gave up on her.

And you guys want to call it a liberal media for this? That's your proof? Or you don't even really offer any proof. You just call it liberal media? Even though we know neo cons bought up all the media since 96 and now 5 rich families own it all?

and you give all the proof on earth that Bush was responsible for 9/11.

Confronted with logic and details, pussies like you usually change the subject.

PS. I lay out a lot of facts that don't add up and suggest Bush might have known 9-11 was coming and didn't do anything about it because he was going to use it to sell us on his radical agenda.

I didn't say I proved Bush did anything. I know there is proof Bush did other things, like lie, but he didn't get impeached for it, so idiots like you keep running your mouth, as if you don't understand why he wasn't impeached. Don't ask, it's over your tiny head.

Anyways, run along now.

You voted yes in this poll, not me.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Confronted with logic and details, pussies like you usually change the subject.

PS. I lay out a lot of facts that don't add up and suggest Bush might have known 9-11 was coming and didn't do anything about it because he was going to use it to sell us on his radical agenda.

I didn't say I proved Bush did anything. I know there is proof Bush did other things, like lie, but he didn't get impeached for it, so idiots like you keep running your mouth, as if you don't understand why he wasn't impeached. Don't ask, it's over your tiny head.

Anyways, run along now.

You can say that again.anytime their confronted with logic and you lay out the facts for them that dont add up,they change the subject and run off their mouth about something thats totally irrelevant to the subject.

 

[Toro]

Should we give eots more respect than Bobo? After all, eots seems to be non-partisan.

Actually, I kind of like eots.

He had a cool story about Joni Mitchell.

Plus, who else here has a whole topic named after him in the byline?

 

[DiveCon]

Confronted with logic and details, pussies like you usually change the subject.

PS. I lay out a lot of facts that don't add up and suggest Bush might have known 9-11 was coming and didn't do anything about it because he was going to use it to sell us on his radical agenda.

I didn't say I proved Bush did anything. I know there is proof Bush did other things, like lie, but he didn't get impeached for it, so idiots like you keep running your mouth, as if you don't understand why he wasn't impeached. Don't ask, it's over your tiny head.

Anyways, run along now.

You can say that again.anytime their confronted with logic and you lay out the facts for them that dont add up,they change the subject and run off their mouth about something thats totally irrelevant to the subject.

yes, you do

 

[elvis]

Confronted with logic and details, pussies like you usually change the subject.

PS. I lay out a lot of facts that don't add up and suggest Bush might have known 9-11 was coming and didn't do anything about it because he was going to use it to sell us on his radical agenda.

I didn't say I proved Bush did anything. I know there is proof Bush did other things, like lie, but he didn't get impeached for it, so idiots like you keep running your mouth, as if you don't understand why he wasn't impeached. Don't ask, it's over your tiny head.

Anyways, run along now.

You can say that again.anytime their confronted with logic and you lay out the facts for them that dont add up,they change the subject and run off their mouth about something thats totally irrelevant to the subject.

yes, you do

what is it about troofers not knowing the correct usages of their, there, and they're?

 

[DiveCon]

You only think they were in bed with him from day one.

When you are money like he is, it is hard to be against him.

It would have been obvious if they tried any harder to knock him down. That's one of the reasons race helped him. Can't pick on the black guy. Same reason being a woman helped Hillary.

Trust me, they tried their hardest to help Hillary get the lead back, but it was too late. Remember, the press was helping Hillary eek back into a tie and she couldn't possibly win, so she/the Dem elders cut Obama a deal. Sell out and we'll let you be the nominee.

So he hired Hillary and god knows what else. Oh yea, passed that FISA bill holding his nose.

It took the Super Delegates to break away from Hillary before the media gave up on her.

And you guys want to call it a liberal media for this? That's your proof? Or you don't even really offer any proof. You just call it liberal media? Even though we know neo cons bought up all the media since 96 and now 5 rich families own it all?

and you give all the proof on earth that Bush was responsible for 9/11.

Confronted with logic and details, pussies like you usually change the subject.

PS. I lay out a lot of facts that don't add up and suggest Bush might have known 9-11 was coming and didn't do anything about it because he was going to use it to sell us on his radical agenda.

I didn't say I proved Bush did anything. I know there is proof Bush did other things, like lie, but he didn't get impeached for it, so idiots like you keep running your mouth, as if you don't understand why he wasn't impeached. Don't ask, it's over your tiny head.

Anyways, run along now.

Bush wasnt impeached because he didnt commit an impeachable offense
and i have yet to see PROOF(not mindless speculation and accusation) that he lied

 

[Godboy]

Plus, who else here has a whole topic named after him in the byline?

Only "King Cut & Paste" has one, because hes the leader of the insanobots.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Do you have any articles that tell of Clinton saying BACK OFF of Bin Ladin?

I saved a bunch of Time Mags from the 90's. You find all kinds of shit in there that back then didn't mean anything but today makes you wonder.

I don't doubt it when it comes to the Clinton's.

He was a good centrist president, but for sure he sold out to the rich.

But they didn't fuck the middle class over on Clinton's watch, so he goes down as a good president, just like Ronald Reagan. But today we see that Bill went a long with a lot of things that led us to the mess we are in. No doubt about that. Not saying they weren't dirty.

Which is why I voted for Obama over Hillary. Was Hillary losing on purpose or by design? No. Its the things Bill did that made me not vote for Hillary. I knew she didn't represent change.

Now I hope/think Obama is that change. But he isn't going to change things as much as I want, and certainly not as much as you want.

Do you know why? Because the American voters are really dumb and easily manipulated by the corporate media.

So don't expect too much change when the average American is as dumb as they are now.

Just look at how they react to the idea that bush knew 9-11 was coming. Why would they doubt the possibility? Especially right wingers who insist the government is the enemy!

So I'm still a HUGE Obama supporter.

Its up to him to prove you wrong.

Clinton fucked over the middle class when he was president BIG TIME.When that bastard signed NAFTA,millions of people in american lost their jobs cause the jobs got shipped over to mexico because of him when he signed it while in office.oh yeah I know how the american people are manipulated by the corporate media.thats no secret.just look at all the 9/11 apologists here.as far as articles on Clinton saying back off of Bin Laden? Here is a couple of those links.one of them here.also you should read Jim Marrs book THE TERROR CONSPIRACY.Deception,9/11 and the loss of liberty. His book talks about that as well.Marrs is amazingly intelligent.

I was fortunate enought to meet him once.He was the author who wrote the book CROSSFIRE."The Plot To Kill Kennedy" that Oliver stone used for the basis of his movie.I have read over 50 books on the kennedy assassination and Marrs book is the best with amazing details that prove it was the CIA/MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX who killed Kennedy.I understand why Stone used his book. you should also read the book CATASTROPHE "Clintons role in americas worst disaster." by Christopher Ruddy and Carl Limbacher.

They talk about that in the book when Clinton was on the mainstream news and a high ranking general came on and said clinton told him to back off.I remember seeing it broadcast right before my eyes back then and like i said,the book talks about it as well being broadcast. as far as Obama goes,all those idiots in chicage who were elated over him being elected are in for a rude awakening.He has already proved he is a liar.Just go back to a year in a half before his election and listen to his speechs and you'll hear him talking about how he is going to bring the troops home.Instead of doing that,he is calling up for several more thousands-cant remember the exact number,to be deployed to Afghanistan.You also need to watch that video on that thread called THE OBAMA DECEPTION.He is a member of that evil CFR group.He isnt any different than Clinton or Bush.as i have said many times before,once Ron Paul didnt get into office,we were fucked.that idiot Obama I guarantee,wont try and get rid of the Federal Reserve.He isnt for the people.

Eileen Ciesla

Team Genesis Flash Detect -- AMONG the Muslim population in Luton, England dozens of men are rushing to join the Taliban. "They want to die there, " Mohammed Abdullah told the Times of London, "You must understand: all Muslims in Britain view supporting the jihad as a religious duty. All of us are willing to sacrifice our lives for our beliefs."

While, the anti-war cries of activists who alternatively wax pacifist and anarchist, seem to cross a near but unreachable line for civil libertarians. Clearly, this Briton's opinion, with the threat of action behind it, is treasonous.

It is the collision of these two sentiments that is the evil genius of multiculturalism.

In remarks offered at Georgetown University on November 7th, former President Bill Clinton examined possible reasons for the terrorist attacks. He found them with the nation's Founders, the Crusades, and a lack of dialogue with Muslims.

Terror, he reminded the audience, has existed in America for hundreds of years, and we are "paying a price today" for slavery and its treatment of Native Americans. This subtle endorsement of slavery reparations or Black Pantherism was followed by something that could have come straight from Al-Jazeera, or perhaps a lecture at any number of American universities,

"In the first Crusade, when Christian soldiers took Jerusalem, they first burned a synagogue with 300 Jews in it and proceeded to kill every woman and child who was a Muslim on Temple Mount. I can tell you that story is still being told today in the Middle East and we are still paying for it."

Blaming America for the Crusades, a series of wars that occurred 700 years before our nation's founding, brings one perilously close to the opinions of Osama bin Laden, but also of Noam Chomsky. Then Clinton softened up and sounded Oprah-esque, suggesting, in light of the reports of American Muslims rejoicing over the attacks, that, "We reach out and engage the Muslim world in debate…this debate is going on all over America. We've got to stop pretending this isn't out there."

Can there be a debate between those citizens who either verbally support, or actually volunteer in the Taliban's army and the rest of America's citizenry? Only in the blurry world of multiculturalism, where all opinions are valid, all civilizations advanced (except Western), all expressions justified and any action can be rationalized and defended in its proper "context."

Of course, it is impossible to avoid awful irony of his remarks. During his Presidency of "unparalleled peace and prosperity," the US and its overseas interests suffered 5 terrorist attacks masterminded by Osama bin Laden. What was the Clinton response?

First, it was to stop the CIA from recruiting unsavory contacts, thus thwarting their ability to gather intelligence on the terrorist underworld.

When the Sudan offered to hand bin Laden over in 1996, Clinton turned them down. He couldn't see a way to prosecute him successfully under US law. Carlos the Jackal, given to French authorities by the Sudan, now sits in a Paris jail. Bin Laden plots jihad.

In 1998, in the middle of his grand-jury testimony, Clinton lobbed a few missiles on a compound in Afghanistan, and on an aspirin factory in the Sudan. Result: bin Laden gained more followers. Clinton left office, but not before issuing 140 pardons and 36 sentence commutations. Bob's Note: And pardoning BEFORE he left office a bunch of FALN Puerto Rican terrorists who killed and mained hundreds in bomb attacks. Clinton did this to try to sway the Latino vote when his wife Hitlery was running for Senate.

Was this measured reaction out of deference to the radical Islamic world's right to religious imperialism? Or rather, was it simply not in Clinton's political interest to engage in a campaign at that time?

As he casts about for a legacy, or perhaps, tries to pave the way for his return as the First Husband, Clinton gives us a telling speech, valuable in what it reflects and portends.
The multiculturalist's philosophy of victimology, racial and religious antagonism, global socialism, and opportunism, is one Clinton learned well as a Georgetown law student. It's not a surprise that he received no criticism from the student audience, future State Department employees, just a hearty round of applause.

Eileen Ciesla is the 2001-2002 Warren Brookes Journalism Fellow at the Competitive Enterprise Institute, a Washington D.C.-based public policy organization. Comment by clicking here.

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Clinton aide says 9/11 film 'correct'
Producer consulted with military attach? who saw aborted attacks on bin Laden

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Buzz Patterson with President Clinton
A former military aide to President Clinton who claims he witnessed several missed opportunities to capture or kill Osama bin Laden says the producer of the ABC miniseries "The Path to 9/11" came to him in frustration after network executives under a heavy barrage of criticism from former administration officials began pressing for changes to the script.

In an interview with WND, retired Air Force Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson said producer and writer Cyrus Nowrasteh called him the morning of Sept. 1, explaining he had used Patterson's book "Dereliction of Duty" as a source for the drama.

Later that day, Nowrasteh brought a preview copy of "The Path to 9/11" to Patterson for him to view at home. Patterson, who says he has talked with the director seven or eight times since then, also received a phone call from an ABC senior vice president, Quinn Taylor.

Patterson told WND he recognizes the television production conflates several events, but, in terms of conveying how the Clinton administration handled its opportunities to get bin Laden, it's "100 percent factually correct," he said.

"I was there with Clinton and (National Security Adviser Sandy) Berger and watched the missed opportunities occur," Patterson declared.

The five-hour drama is scheduled to air in two parts, Sunday night and Monday night, Sept. 11.

As a military aide to President Clinton from 1996 to 1998, Patterson was one of five men entrusted with carrying the "nuclear football," which contains the codes for launching nuclear weapons.

'Everyone's got to calm down'

Reached by phone at his home in Southern California, Nowrasteh affirmed to WND he consulted with Patterson and gave him a preview of the drama.
Lt. Col. Robert "Buzz" Patterson (FrontPageMagazine.com)

During the interview this morning, Nowrasteh took a moment to watch as President Clinton's image turned up on his nearby TV screen to criticize the movie. The director did not want to respond directly to Clinton's comments, but offered a general response to critics.

"Everybody's got to calm down and watch the movie," Nowrasteh told WND. "This is not an indictment of one president or another. The villains are the terrorists. This is a clarion bell for people to wake up and take notice."

Patterson pointed out the Bush administration also is depicted in an unfavorable light in the months before 9/11.

An ABC executive who requested anonymity told the Washington Post the network has made "adjustments and refinements" to the drama that are "intended to make clearer that it was general indecisiveness" by federal officials that left the U.S. vulnerable to attack, and "not any one individual."

Yesterday, the New York Post reported Clinton wrote to ABC officials, complaining the "content of this drama is factually and incontrovertibly inaccurate and ABC has the duty to fully correct all errors or pull the drama entirely." Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright, according to the Washington Post, has described a scene, in which she is depicted, as "false and defamatory."

The Senate Democratic Leadership sent a letter to Robert Iger – president and CEO of ABC's corporate parent, the Walt Disney Co. – urging him to cancel the "grossly inaccurate" drama.

The Democratic National Committee today said it delivered a petition with nearly 200,000 signatures to ABC's Washington office calling on the network to drop its "right-wing factually inaccurate mocudrama."

Democrats have been particularly critical of a scene that depicts Berger refusing to authorize a mission to capture bin Laden after CIA operatives and Afghan fighters had the al-Qaida leader in their sights.

Nowrasteh acknowledges this is a "conflation of events," but Berger, in a letter to Iger, said "no such episode ever occurred, nor did anything like it."

Patterson contended, however, the scene is similar to a plan the administration had with the CIA and the Afghan Northern Alliance to snatch bin Laden from a camp in Afghanistan.




The scene in "The Path to 9/11," as Patterson recalled from the preview version, unfolds with CIA operatives at the camp on the phone with Berger, who is expressing concern that an attack could result in innocent bystanders being killed. An agent says he sees swing sets and children's toys in the area. The scene ends with Berger hanging up the phone.

Patterson says his recollection is that Clinton was involved directly in several similar incidents in which Berger was pressing the president for a decision.

"Berger was very agitated, he couldn't get a decision from the president," Patterson said.

Patterson noted he wasn't sure what Berger wanted to do – whether the national security adviser wanted the answer to be yes or no – but the frustration, at the very least, was based on the president making himself unavailable to make a decision.

In "Dereliction of Duty," published by Regnery in 2003, Patterson recounts an event in the situation room of the White House in which Berger was told by a military watch officer, "Sir, we've located bin Laden. We have a two-hour window to strike."

Clinton, according to Patterson, did not return phone calls from Berger for more than an hour then said he wanted more time to study the situation.

Patterson writes: "We 'studied' the issues until it was too late-the window of opportunity closed."
Harvey Keitel plays counter-terrorism expert John O'Neill in ABC's "The Path to 9/11

In another "missed opportunity," Patterson writes, Clinton was watching a golf tournament when Berger placed an urgent call to the president. Clinton became irritated when Patterson approached him with the message. After the third attempt, Clinton coolly responded he would call Berger on his way back to the White House. By then, however, according to Patterson, the opportunity was lost.

'Never occurred'

As WND reported, Berger was the focus of a Justice Department investigation for removing highly classified terrorism documents before the Sept. 11 Commission hearings that generated the report used for the television program.

FBI agents searched Berger's home and office after he voluntarily returned some documents to the National Archives.

Berger and his lawyer told reporters he knowingly removed handwritten notes he made while reading classified anti-terror documents at the archives by sticking them in his clothing. They said he also inadvertently took copies of actual classified documents in a leather portfolio.

Berger's response to the "The Path to 9/11" is similar to his reaction to the accounts in "Dereliction of Duty," insisting the incidents attributed to him "never occurred."

Patterson said his book put him under intense pressure from Clinton officials – an aide even spoke of taking away his military retirement benefits – but when the title reached No. 1 on Amazon.com, "they shut up."

There are others who can corroborate his accounts, Patterson insisted, but they are still in military service and therefore legally bound not to come forward and make statements.

Three of the four other military aides who rotated being at the president's side were additional sources for his book, Patterson affirmed.

If ABC ends up pulling "The Path to 9/11," it won't be the first time Democrats have succeeded in pressuring a network not to air a politically charged film during a major election season.

During the 2004 presidential campaign, as WND reported, the Sinclair Broadcast Group canceled a planned showing of "Stolen Honor: Wounds That Never Heal." The documentary featured former POWs who told how John Kerry's 1971 testimony to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee was used as propaganda against them by their North Vietnamese captors, allegedly intensifying their persecution and prolonging the war and imprisonment.




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[eots]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psdgRH_p3XI[/ame]





Telling lies, to our vision
Telling lies, to our children
Telling lies, to our babies
Only truth, can take us away


You can't fool all the people all of the time
But if you fool the right ones, then the rest will fall behind
Tell me who's got control of your mind? your world view?
Is it the news or the movie you're taking your girl to? (uh)
Know what i'm sayin cause Uncle Sam got a plan
If you examine what they tellin us then you will understand
What they plantin in the seeds of the next generation
Feeding our children miseducation
No one knows if there's UFO's or any life on mars
Or what they do when they up in the stars
Because i don't believe a word of what the president said
He filling our head with lies got us hypnotised
When he be speaking in cold words about crime and poverty
Drugs, welfare, prisons, guns and robbery
It really means us, there's no excuse for the slander
But what's good for the goose, is still good for the gander
See...


I don't believe Bob Marley died from cancer
31 years ago i woulda been a panther
They killed Huey cause they knew he had the answer
The views that you see in the news is propaganda

Singing:
Telling lies, to our vision
Telling lies, to our children
Telling lies, to our babies
Only truth, can take us away

Verse 2:
I don't want no computer chip in my arm
I don't wanna die by a nuclear bomb
I say we all rush the pentagon, pull out guns
And grab the intercom, my first word's will be I believe
Man made God, outta ignorance and fear
If God made man, then why the hell would he put us here?
I thought he's supposed to be the all loving
The same God who let Hitler put the Jews in the oven
We don't fall for the regular shit, they try to feed us
All this half-ass leadership, flippin position
They turn politcian and shut the hell up and follow tradition
For your TV screen, is telling lies to your vision
Every channel got some brainwashed cop shit to watch
Running up in niggas cribs claiming that they heard shots
It's a plot, but busta can you tell me who's greedier?
Big corporations, the pigs or the media?
Sign of the times, terrorism on the rise
Commercial airplanes, falling out the sky like flies
Make me wonder what secrets went down with Bob Brown (?)
Who burnt churches to the ground with no evidence found?
It's not coincidence, it's been too many studied incidents
It coulda been the Klan who put that bomb at the Olympics
But it probably was the FBI, deep at the call
Cuz if they make us all panic then they can start martial law


I don't believe Bob Marley died from cancer
31 years ago i woulda been a panther
They killed Huey cause they knew he had the answer
The views that you see in the news is propaganda

I don't believe Bob Marley died from cancer
31 years ago i woulda been a panther
They killed Huey cause they knew he had the answer
The views that you see in the news is muthafuckin propaganda

Singing:
Police is telling lies fooling millions
What are they teaching our kids in these school buildings?
Televised, enterprised in all the killing
Controlling our lives, this ain't living
No this ain't living

Chant:
FBI, CIA
ATF, KKK
IRS, TNT
CBS, NBC

FBI, CIA
ATF, KKK
IRS, TNT
CBS, NBC


Telling lies, to our vision
Telling lies, to our children
Telling lies, to our babies
Only truth, can take us away






Dead Prez - Propaganda LYRICS

 

[LA RAM FAN]

no question about it...the only thing in question is the details

I am so sick of the people who without question or thought dismiss the idea that Bush/Chaney might actually be this evil.

They are this evil!!! Hello everyone!!! Anyone listening?

As bad as Saddam is, so is Dick Cheney and GW Bush.

I think even HW Bush believes his son is an asshole.

Lets look back at the Iran Contra Affair and the October Surprise where the Republicans made a deal with the terrorists to hold the hostages until after the election so Carter would lose.

Then a year or so later Ollie North and Reagan are selling arms to Iran?

Why? We never found out why they were giving guns to Iran.

If it wasn't payment for the October Surprise, please someone tell me why we sold Iran guns.

I also think Cheney sent out the anthrax. When I lay out all the facts, what we know, etc, it only makes sense. Cheney tried to blame Saddam for the antrax. What proof did he have? So he wasn't even worried about where the anthrax was coming from. Why not? Because it was coming from him. And who got antrax mailed to them? Two powerful democrats who were blocking the Patriot Act.

Bush and Cheney considered the people in the World Trade Center as collateral damage. Necessary evil type shit. They might even believe that this is a case of, "the good of the many outweigh the few".

I truly believe the GOP think they did the right thing in the middle east. It may look like they did it for $ only, but it may have more to do with having a foot hold in the middle east. It may help with gas prices. It may help with fighting terrorists. And lets face it, Saddam was a bad guy.

So, I think the Republicans view themselves as patriots, not traitors.

What do I think? I think they should all be hung. And any Democrat who knew about torture and knew about the tele coms spying on Americans, should be put in jail.

And I don't approve of the neo con's PNAC right wing agenda. I think if most Americans were told all the details, neither would they. That's why they lied us into Iraq rather than tell us the truth.

Republicans think the key to our countries success is to allow our Robber Baron's to buy up as much of the world as possible, (new world order) and at the same time, they are having a fire sale here in the US and they are selling all our companies to foreigners REALLY CHEAP!

And allow illegals in because Americans need cheap labor.

God, the more I try to get into the mind of Republicans, the more I realize just how fucked up wrong/stupid their ideas are.

Do they ever think them all the way thru?

I tried, and in the end I always realized their ideas are fatally flawed.

PS. I just had a flashback. Last year I remember a story about a foreign company that either bought a company or invested in a company, and that foreign company was guaranteed a return of 10%.

yeah despite the evidence of how the government has committed evil autrocities against their own people for DECADES now,people like Retired dont look at the evidence cause like you said,they dont want to believe their government could do anything so evil to its own people.so they see only what they want to see.Like i said though,you cant just blame this on just the reprocrats.the demopublicans are involved in the coverup on 9/11 as well.as i just pointed out,Clinton is involved in 9/11 up to his ears with Cheney and Bush.I cant help but laugh over Retireds logic.The people in the FBI that were investigating terrorists were told to back off investigating the terrorists because the higher ups in the FBI were in on it with Bush and Clinton.same with the CIA.They needed Al Queda as a patsy so the FBI hire ups prevented them from going after them.amazing how Retired has no logic or common sense.LOL.Like i said before,until we get a third party created-someone like Ron Paul or Bob Barr who both have the same visions that kennedy did-a president who was for the people as Paul and Barr are,their isnt much hope for the future of the world.Obama is no different than Bush or Clinton.I mean Obama has made that evil witch,HITLER, secretary of state,21 of his 27 cabinet members are former clinton appointees-the same ones the american people voted out of office,has kept some of Bushs cabinet members on the staff,has lied about sending our troops home,and he calls THAT change????? what a freaking hypocrite and liar.He aint no different than those bastards Clinton and Bush.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

STOP SPAMING

Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army (ret) – Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. Former inspector and interpreter for the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty team.

Essay 9/11 and Non-investigation: "As a former Army officer, my tendency immediately after 911 was to rally 'round the colors and defend the country against what I then thought was an insidious, malicious all-Arab entity called Al-Qaida. In fact, in April of 2002, I attempted to reactivate my then-retired commission to return to serve my country in its time of peril. ...

Now I view the 911 event as Professor David Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor, views it: as a matter that implies either

A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down of proper defense procedures that (if followed) would have led US air assets to a quick identification and confrontation of the passenger aircraft that impacted WTC 1 and WTC 2, or worse ...

B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East ..." Captain Eric May


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry." http://www.911truth.org/article

Bush never did anything wrong because he is above the law.

Bush believes he is above the law | AfterDowningStreet.org

same with Clinton.thats the problem with our country is that politicians and ESPECIALY presidents commit crimes all the time including murder and get off scott free constantly.Theres one different law for politicians and one different one for citizens.everybody in the world knows that.Just look at Nixon and Clinton,if WE lied under oath in front of a federal grand jury like they did,we go to jail.THEY got off scott free.

 

[DiveCon]

STOP SPAMING

Capt. Eric H. May, U.S. Army (ret) – Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer. Former inspector and interpreter for the Intermediate Nuclear Forces Treaty team.

Essay 9/11 and Non-investigation: "As a former Army officer, my tendency immediately after 911 was to rally 'round the colors and defend the country against what I then thought was an insidious, malicious all-Arab entity called Al-Qaida. In fact, in April of 2002, I attempted to reactivate my then-retired commission to return to serve my country in its time of peril. ...

Now I view the 911 event as Professor David Griffin, author of The New Pearl Harbor, views it: as a matter that implies either

A) passive participation by the Bush White House through a deliberate stand-down of proper defense procedures that (if followed) would have led US air assets to a quick identification and confrontation of the passenger aircraft that impacted WTC 1 and WTC 2, or worse ...

B) active execution of a plot by rogue elements of government, starting with the White House itself, in creating a spectacle of destruction that would lead the United States into an invasion of the Middle East ..." Captain Eric May


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11:
"We want truthful answers to question. … As Americans of conscience, we ask for four things:
An immediate investigation by New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer
Immediate investigation in Congressional Hearings.
Media attention to scrutinize and investigate the evidence.
The formation of a truly independent citizens-based inquiry." http://www.911truth.org/article

Bush never did anything wrong because he is above the law.

Bush believes he is above the law | AfterDowningStreet.org

same with Clinton.thats the problem with our country is that politicians and ESPECIALY presidents commit crimes all the time including murder and get off scott free constantly.Theres one different law for politicians and one different one for citizens.everybody in the world knows that.Just look at Nixon and Clinton,if WE lied under oath in front of a federal grand jury like they did,we go to jail.THEY got off scott free.

let me guess, you believe that silly "Clinton Death list" nonsense, right?

 

[LA RAM FAN]

YES, bobo the moron, the downing street memo was an admitted fake by the guy that produced it
he CLAIMS he reproduced the original and then destroyed it


uh huh

You usually demand proof. Where is your proof?

I think you are a conspiracy theorist.

No he is a conspiracy denial.the thing I think is s hysterical about the 9/11 apologists here such as retired and divecon is they have let the government brainwash them into believeing were conspiracy theorists for not falling for their lies and propaganda.the government coined that term calling people since the 60's who dont accept that other fairy tale commission -the warren commission that oswald killed kennedy a conspiracy theorist.They cant call us conspiracy theorists in 9/11 because THIS time they had to acknowledge that 9/11 WAS a conspiracy since it involved more than one person.the people like Retired who defend the official version ARE conspiracy theorists because they defend the official government conspiracy THEORY that muslims were behind it all.

 

[elvis]

YES, bobo the moron, the downing street memo was an admitted fake by the guy that produced it
he CLAIMS he reproduced the original and then destroyed it


uh huh

You usually demand proof. Where is your proof?

I think you are a conspiracy theorist.

No he is a conspiracy denial.the thing I think is s hysterical about the 9/11 apologists here such as retired and divecon is they have let the government brainwash them into believeing were conspiracy theorists for not falling for their lies and propaganda.the government coined that term calling people since the 60's who dont accept that other fairy tale commission -the warren commission that oswald killed kennedy a conspiracy theorist.They cant call us conspiracy theorists in 9/11 because THIS time they had to acknowledge that 9/11 WAS a conspiracy since it involved more than one person.the people like Retired who defend the official version ARE conspiracy theorists because they defend the official government conspiracy THEORY that muslims were behind it all.

so Noam chomsky is brainwashed by the government? go to youtube and watch his talk on 9/11 conspiracy. I'd post it but it wont work on here.

 

[DiveCon]

You usually demand proof. Where is your proof?

I think you are a conspiracy theorist.

No he is a conspiracy denial.the thing I think is s hysterical about the 9/11 apologists here such as retired and divecon is they have let the government brainwash them into believeing were conspiracy theorists for not falling for their lies and propaganda.the government coined that term calling people since the 60's who dont accept that other fairy tale commission -the warren commission that oswald killed kennedy a conspiracy theorist.They cant call us conspiracy theorists in 9/11 because THIS time they had to acknowledge that 9/11 WAS a conspiracy since it involved more than one person.the people like Retired who defend the official version ARE conspiracy theorists because they defend the official government conspiracy THEORY that muslims were behind it all.

so Noam chomsky is brainwashed by the government? go to youtube and watch his talk on 9/11 conspiracy. I'd post it but it wont work on here.

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