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Since nearly 50% of the bottom end pay zero income taxes and some of those actually have a negative tax balance due, meaning they receive more in refunds than they actually pay in taxes because of refundable tax credits I don't think giving less than 2% of the population a break is a big deal.
I benefit from the Bush tax cuts. See they cut taxes on anyone who pays taxes, therefore, i save money that doesnt get taken from me and go to the government.
However, the Republican tax plan is not the Bush tax cuts. We want to completely reform the Tax code and system. Many of us are advocating a flat taxes so that all people will be able to pay the same rate. With absolutely no loopholes.
How could lefties characterize the (ironically tax exempt) "center for tax justice" as nonpartisan when it's stated mission is to "give ordinary people a greater voice against the armies of special interest lobbyists for corporations and the wealthy". It's the same old song and dance that the socialist manifesto feeds to ignorant lefties every day. The web site only talks about "evil" republicans.
I benefit from the Bush tax cuts. See they cut taxes on anyone who pays taxes, therefore, i save money that doesnt get taken from me and go to the government.
However, the Republican tax plan is not the Bush tax cuts. We want to completely reform the Tax code and system. Many of us are advocating a flat taxes so that all people will be able to pay the same rate. With absolutely no loopholes.
Simple ideas for the simple minded.
Since nearly 50% of the bottom end pay zero income taxes and some of those actually have a negative tax balance due, meaning they receive more in refunds than they actually pay in taxes because of refundable tax credits I don't think giving less than 2% of the population a break is a big deal.
Exactly. It takes big balls for someone who pays nothing to demand the other guy pay more.
It never occurs to liberals to wonder why we are running out of money all the time.
It sure as hell isn't because the other guy isn't paying enough.
I benefit from the Bush tax cuts. See they cut taxes on anyone who pays taxes, therefore, i save money that doesnt get taken from me and go to the government.
However, the Republican tax plan is not the Bush tax cuts. We want to completely reform the Tax code and system. Many of us are advocating a flat taxes so that all people will be able to pay the same rate. With absolutely no loopholes.
Simple ideas for the simple minded.
No, it is common sense, which is really not so common.
Since the last great tax reform in 1986, more than one tax break a day of one kind or another has been added to the tax code. This is patently ridiculous.
Remove the carve-outs, deductions, credits, loopholes, subsidies. This will broaden the base, and allow us to lower the rates.
Simple ideas for the simple minded.
No, it is common sense, which is really not so common.
Since the last great tax reform in 1986, more than one tax break a day of one kind or another has been added to the tax code. This is patently ridiculous.
Remove the carve-outs, deductions, credits, loopholes, subsidies. This will broaden the base, and allow us to lower the rates.
There's a big difference in removing tax breaks and moving to a completely flat tax system. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. A completely flat tax is certainly not the answer.
No, it is common sense, which is really not so common.
Since the last great tax reform in 1986, more than one tax break a day of one kind or another has been added to the tax code. This is patently ridiculous.
Remove the carve-outs, deductions, credits, loopholes, subsidies. This will broaden the base, and allow us to lower the rates.
There's a big difference in removing tax breaks and moving to a completely flat tax system. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. A completely flat tax is certainly not the answer.
It's only not the answer when you strive for the unequal treatment of others and when you want subjectivity in the equation...
There's a big difference in removing tax breaks and moving to a completely flat tax system. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. A completely flat tax is certainly not the answer.
It's only not the answer when you strive for the unequal treatment of others and when you want subjectivity in the equation...
A progressive system without loopholes is both equal and fair, despite what you want to admit.
It's only not the answer when you strive for the unequal treatment of others and when you want subjectivity in the equation...
A progressive system without loopholes is both equal and fair, despite what you want to admit.
By definition.. a progressive system is not equal.. and 'fairness' is subjective... a progressive system is inherently derived from inequality measures
Until you can get these simple facts thru your thick skull, you will continue to be wrong
A progressive system without loopholes is both equal and fair, despite what you want to admit.
By definition.. a progressive system is not equal.. and 'fairness' is subjective... a progressive system is inherently derived from inequality measures
Until you can get these simple facts thru your thick skull, you will continue to be wrong
We both pay the same tax rate on the first dollar we earn. We also both pay the same rate on the $30,000th dollar earned. Also we both pay the same rate on the $250,000 earned and the same rate on the $1,000,000th dollar earned and so on......we both have the same rate, just as everyone else in this country does on each of those dollars.
You're not happy because the rate between dollars differs, but the rate between people earning those dollars is the same. Your priority is not for equal treatment of people, but for equal treatment of dollars. I care more about people than dollars, sorry you don't feel the same.
By definition.. a progressive system is not equal.. and 'fairness' is subjective... a progressive system is inherently derived from inequality measures
Until you can get these simple facts thru your thick skull, you will continue to be wrong
We both pay the same tax rate on the first dollar we earn. We also both pay the same rate on the $30,000th dollar earned. Also we both pay the same rate on the $250,000 earned and the same rate on the $1,000,000th dollar earned and so on......we both have the same rate, just as everyone else in this country does on each of those dollars.
You're not happy because the rate between dollars differs, but the rate between people earning those dollars is the same. Your priority is not for equal treatment of people, but for equal treatment of dollars. I care more about people than dollars, sorry you don't feel the same.
Dollar 1 is not treated the same as dollar 20001
Progressive systems are ENTIRELY BASED IN INEQUALITY MEASURES AND EQUATIONS.. and by DEFINITION UNEQUAL TREATMENT
My priority is for every dollar earned by every person to be treated exactly the same without exception, loophole, or exemption.... YOUR criteria subjectively leaves out part for your benefit or the benefit of those you support
You only care more for the benefits to SOME people... and care less about the freedoms of others... that is the core of your socialistic belief
We both pay the same tax rate on the first dollar we earn. We also both pay the same rate on the $30,000th dollar earned. Also we both pay the same rate on the $250,000 earned and the same rate on the $1,000,000th dollar earned and so on......we both have the same rate, just as everyone else in this country does on each of those dollars.
You're not happy because the rate between dollars differs, but the rate between people earning those dollars is the same. Your priority is not for equal treatment of people, but for equal treatment of dollars. I care more about people than dollars, sorry you don't feel the same.
Dollar 1 is not treated the same as dollar 20001
Progressive systems are ENTIRELY BASED IN INEQUALITY MEASURES AND EQUATIONS.. and by DEFINITION UNEQUAL TREATMENT
My priority is for every dollar earned by every person to be treated exactly the same without exception, loophole, or exemption.... YOUR criteria subjectively leaves out part for your benefit or the benefit of those you support
You only care more for the benefits to SOME people... and care less about the freedoms of others... that is the core of your socialistic belief
Right, your priority is for treating the dollars the same, not the people. Just like I said. Your flat system doesn't treat people equally, where as a progressive system does. You only care that poor people remain poor, no matter what the cost.
Dollar 1 is not treated the same as dollar 20001
Progressive systems are ENTIRELY BASED IN INEQUALITY MEASURES AND EQUATIONS.. and by DEFINITION UNEQUAL TREATMENT
My priority is for every dollar earned by every person to be treated exactly the same without exception, loophole, or exemption.... YOUR criteria subjectively leaves out part for your benefit or the benefit of those you support
You only care more for the benefits to SOME people... and care less about the freedoms of others... that is the core of your socialistic belief
Right, your priority is for treating the dollars the same, not the people. Just like I said. Your flat system doesn't treat people equally, where as a progressive system does. You only care that poor people remain poor, no matter what the cost.
Wrong
My priority is for all dollars earned by all people to be treated entirely the same, AND all people earning dollars to be treated entirely the same... your progressive system is the system that treats people unequally, BY DEFINITION.. and you simply cannot accept it.... you confuse subjective 'fairness' with equality... and they are NOT the same thing
I care that freedom and equality in treatment is maintained, no matter what cost... what you do with that freedom and equality in treatment is on you, not on others and not on society....
Right, your priority is for treating the dollars the same, not the people. Just like I said. Your flat system doesn't treat people equally, where as a progressive system does. You only care that poor people remain poor, no matter what the cost.
Wrong
My priority is for all dollars earned by all people to be treated entirely the same, AND all people earning dollars to be treated entirely the same... your progressive system is the system that treats people unequally, BY DEFINITION.. and you simply cannot accept it.... you confuse subjective 'fairness' with equality... and they are NOT the same thing
I care that freedom and equality in treatment is maintained, no matter what cost... what you do with that freedom and equality in treatment is on you, not on others and not on society....
Actually a progressive system without loopholes treats everyone the same. You simply can not accept that. You're simply hell bent on ensuring that the poor remain poor. Your agenda is clear.
Wrong
My priority is for all dollars earned by all people to be treated entirely the same, AND all people earning dollars to be treated entirely the same... your progressive system is the system that treats people unequally, BY DEFINITION.. and you simply cannot accept it.... you confuse subjective 'fairness' with equality... and they are NOT the same thing
I care that freedom and equality in treatment is maintained, no matter what cost... what you do with that freedom and equality in treatment is on you, not on others and not on society....
Actually a progressive system without loopholes treats everyone the same. You simply can not accept that. You're simply hell bent on ensuring that the poor remain poor. Your agenda is clear.
I have showed you by nature and by definition that it does NOT.. and you just keep sticking your fingers in your ears to ignore it
BY DEFINITION a progressive system is derived by inequality measures and calculations... INEQUALITY does NOT mean EQUALITY
My agenda IS CLEAR.. that is what you are right about... your assumption on what my agenda is is completely wrong though.... My agenda is to ensure freedom and equality in treatment, nothing more and nothing less... and again... what you do with that freedom and equality in treatment is on you, not on others and not on society....
Actually a progressive system without loopholes treats everyone the same. You simply can not accept that. You're simply hell bent on ensuring that the poor remain poor. Your agenda is clear.
I have showed you by nature and by definition that it does NOT.. and you just keep sticking your fingers in your ears to ignore it
BY DEFINITION a progressive system is derived by inequality measures and calculations... INEQUALITY does NOT mean EQUALITY
My agenda IS CLEAR.. that is what you are right about... your assumption on what my agenda is is completely wrong though.... My agenda is to ensure freedom and equality in treatment, nothing more and nothing less... and again... what you do with that freedom and equality in treatment is on you, not on others and not on society....
But your version of "equal" is wrong as I've shown you. You're more concerned about dollars than you are about people. We live in a country of people, not dollars. I know dollars are all that matter in your version of America, but sorry that doesn't match up with reality. Maybe this isn't the best country for you?
Tax Policy Recommendations for 2012 Election Candidates | Issues 2012
- Make Bush-era tax cuts permanent. While tax reform should remain the ultimate goal for tax policy, there are important incremental steps that Congress should take while completing a thorough overhaul of the tax code. The first should be to make the Bush tax cuts permanent. The prospect of tax rates rising at the end of 2012, as they are scheduled to when the Bush tax cuts expire, is causing uncertainty for businesses, investors, entrepreneurs, and families. This uncertainty is causing them to delay important decisions about investing and taking on new risk. Until Congress makes the Bush tax cuts permanent, this uncertainty will linger and the economy will suffer.
- Lower the corporate income tax rate. Making the Bush tax cuts permanent would not be sufficient to remove all the impediments to economic growth imposed by the tax code. The U.S. has the highest corporate income tax rate in the industrialized worldalmost 40 percent when combining the federal rate with the average rate the states add onmaking it the least competitive developed country for businesses that wish to make new investments and create jobs. To revive the competitiveness of U.S. businesses in the global marketplace, the rate must come down to the average of other industrialized countries. The U.S. corporate tax rate should be set at (or ideally below) the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development average of 25 percent to eliminate the incentive to locate businesses and jobs overseas instead of in the U.S.
- Shift to a territorial tax system. The U.S. is also the only developed country that taxes its businesses on the income they earn in other countries. This is known as a worldwide tax system. Taxing businesses only on the income earned within U.S. borders would improve U.S. competitiveness abroad and in turn spur job creation. This is known as territoriality.
- Make immediate expensing of all capital purchases permanent. As part of the 2010 legislation to extend the Bush tax cuts, President Obama signed into law 100 percent expensing of all capital purchases for all businesses.Businesses typically must deduct the cost of investments in new plant and equipment over years using cumbersome depreciation schedules. This raises the cost of capital and reduces the amount of capital that businesses purchase. Making expensing permanent would eliminate the tax bias against business investment and increase business investment, competitiveness, and future wage growth through higher worker productivity.
- Stop taxing small businesses as individuals. Small businesses usually pay taxes through their owners individual tax returns. This generally subjects them to the high rates their owners pay. Instead, they should pay tax at the entity level so that Congress can lower their rate to make it equal to the reduced corporate income tax rate.
- Permanently eliminate the death tax. Another goal of tax reform should be to eliminate taxes on saving and investment. To meet that goal, the death tax must be abolished once and for all. Abolition of this harmful tax will help spur economic recovery, put unemployed Americans back to work, and increase the economys long-term growth potential.
- Eliminate the alternative minimum tax. Tax reform should also simplify the tax code. The alternative minimum tax (AMT) is a complicated secondary income tax system originally designed to raise the taxes of the rich by taking away certain deductions. Because Congress never indexed its income threshold to grow with inflation, the AMT now threatens to ensnare millions of middle-income families. Eliminating the AMT would simplify the tax code and prevent an unintended tax hike.
- Enact comprehensive tax reform. A reformed tax code should accomplish all of the items listed above and apply a dramatically lower and flat rate to a proper tax base not eroded by an overabundance of exemptions, credits, and deductions. The Heritage Foundation has crafted such a plan as part of its comprehensive fiscal plan Saving the American Dream. Instead of the vast array of deductions currently in the tax code, the Heritage tax reform plan has only three: mortgage interest, charitable contributions, and higher education expenses. It has just two credits: the earned income credit and a new health insurance credit in place of the current exclusion for employer-provided health insurance. The Heritage plan has just one rate and eliminates payroll taxes, the AMT, nearly all excise taxes, capital gains taxes, dividends taxes, and the death tax. The Heritage plan is revenue-neutral. Congress should adopt this model, if not the entire plan, as a guide for tax reform.
I have showed you by nature and by definition that it does NOT.. and you just keep sticking your fingers in your ears to ignore it
BY DEFINITION a progressive system is derived by inequality measures and calculations... INEQUALITY does NOT mean EQUALITY
My agenda IS CLEAR.. that is what you are right about... your assumption on what my agenda is is completely wrong though.... My agenda is to ensure freedom and equality in treatment, nothing more and nothing less... and again... what you do with that freedom and equality in treatment is on you, not on others and not on society....
But your version of "equal" is wrong as I've shown you. You're more concerned about dollars than you are about people. We live in a country of people, not dollars. I know dollars are all that matter in your version of America, but sorry that doesn't match up with reality. Maybe this isn't the best country for you?
No.. .it is not.. in your bizzaro world, factors of inequality bring equality.. and as shown to you, by definition and nature a progressive system is unequal treatment.. you simply refuse to admit it
You only care about benefit and freedom of SOME at the expense of OTHERS
By definition.. a progressive system is not equal.. and 'fairness' is subjective... a progressive system is inherently derived from inequality measures
Until you can get these simple facts thru your thick skull, you will continue to be wrong
We both pay the same tax rate on the first dollar we earn. We also both pay the same rate on the $30,000th dollar earned. Also we both pay the same rate on the $250,000 earned and the same rate on the $1,000,000th dollar earned and so on......we both have the same rate, just as everyone else in this country does on each of those dollars.
You're not happy because the rate between dollars differs, but the rate between people earning those dollars is the same. Your priority is not for equal treatment of people, but for equal treatment of dollars. I care more about people than dollars, sorry you don't feel the same.
Dollar 1 is not treated the same as dollar 20001
Progressive systems are ENTIRELY BASED IN INEQUALITY MEASURES AND EQUATIONS.. and by DEFINITION UNEQUAL TREATMENT
My priority is for every dollar earned by every person to be treated exactly the same without exception, loophole, or exemption.... YOUR criteria subjectively leaves out part for your benefit or the benefit of those you support
You only care more for the benefits to SOME people... and care less about the freedoms of others... that is the core of your socialistic belief
