Who is the smartest liberal?

No polk his policies more social welfare spending than ever before while simultaneously fighting a war Doesn't harken back to REagan but to LBJ. That didn't work out too well for LBJ either.
 
Or others

Michael Moore
BH Obama
Al Gore ?

Other than the Almighty?

He mentioned the father, son and holy ghost for liberals:

Al Gore = father, since he's the oldest and ruler of the religion of Global Warming
Barack Obama = son, the boi king
Michael Moore = holy ghost, since he's a big windbag (not to mention he'll probably die of congestive heart failure one of these days)
 
I mean that in the most heterosexual way .you have to find your own thing to love and your own air.
 
Nazi Germany mimicked a lot of the 1917 Bolshevik rhetoric. Doesn't mean they were identical or even similar.

Not saying they are. Just making the point that the idea that Bush isn't really a conservative because his policies failed illustrates the same sort of lapse in logic as Marxists exhibit when they defend communism by saying that the Soviet Union wasn't really communist.

Bush wasn't really conservative because he spent all kinds of money on people who got him elected. take the iowa farmers, for example.

As did Reagan before him. If you define conservative so narrowly as to only include those who never spent money, then you're redefined the term in such a way as to make it meaningless.
 
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Not saying they are. Just making the point that the idea that Bush isn't really a conservative because his policies failed illustrates the same sort of lapse in logic as Marxists exhibit when they defend communism by saying that the Soviet Union wasn't really communist.

Bush wasn't really conservative because he spent all kinds of money on people who got him elected. take the iowa farmers, for example.

As did Reagan before him. If you define conservative so narrowly as to only include those who never spent money, then you're defined the term in such a way as to make it meaningless.
Reagan spent money to break the Soviet Union, which, hindsight being 20/20, may not have been the best plan.
Well, actually, fiscally, Bush was more liberal than Clinton. Clinton was a conservative because the Congress stood on his head and forced him to be one. He then took all the credit in the world for balancing the budget.
 
He also hates the Clintons, Michael Moore, and Cindy Sheehan.

Well, hell, the guy is human. I can't ever turn the sound off on Sheehan's voice fast enough. And she herself hates Pelosi, but you wouldn't say she isn't liberal.

I dislike Sheehan also. The point is it's not accurate to access Hitchens as a liberal. That's not to say he's a conservative.When taking everything together, he's really off in his own little land (he self-describes as a "radical").
 
Bush wasn't really conservative because he spent all kinds of money on people who got him elected. take the iowa farmers, for example.

As did Reagan before him. If you define conservative so narrowly as to only include those who never spent money, then you're defined the term in such a way as to make it meaningless.
Reagan spent money to break the Soviet Union, which, hindsight being 20/20, may not have been the best plan.
Well, actually, fiscally, Bush was more liberal than Clinton. Clinton was a conservative because the Congress stood on his head and forced him to be one. He then took all the credit in the world for balancing the budget.

It's the difference between rhetoric and practice. Conservatives claim to care about the deficit, but spend like drunken sailors when in power, while others actually address the problem head-on (the decline in the deficit in the late 90s comes from the tax increases passed in early part of the decade, first under the moderate George H.W. Bush and then under Clinton).
 
As did Reagan before him. If you define conservative so narrowly as to only include those who never spent money, then you're defined the term in such a way as to make it meaningless.
Reagan spent money to break the Soviet Union, which, hindsight being 20/20, may not have been the best plan.
Well, actually, fiscally, Bush was more liberal than Clinton. Clinton was a conservative because the Congress stood on his head and forced him to be one. He then took all the credit in the world for balancing the budget.

It's the difference between rhetoric and practice. Conservatives claim to care about the deficit, but spend like drunken sailors when in power, while others actually address the problem head-on (the decline in the deficit in the late 90s comes from the tax increases passed in early part of the decade, first under the moderate George H.W. Bush and then under Clinton).
You're forgetting about the biggest cuts in social programs since the New Deal, which clinton was responsible for. That also contributed to the balanced budget/surplus.
 
Reagan spent money to break the Soviet Union, which, hindsight being 20/20, may not have been the best plan.
Well, actually, fiscally, Bush was more liberal than Clinton. Clinton was a conservative because the Congress stood on his head and forced him to be one. He then took all the credit in the world for balancing the budget.

It's the difference between rhetoric and practice. Conservatives claim to care about the deficit, but spend like drunken sailors when in power, while others actually address the problem head-on (the decline in the deficit in the late 90s comes from the tax increases passed in early part of the decade, first under the moderate George H.W. Bush and then under Clinton).

You're forgetting about the biggest cuts in social programs since the New Deal, which clinton was responsible for. That also contributed to the balanced budget/surplus.

Contributed, sure, but most of the narrowing comes from increased revenue. While the strong economy was a part of that, both the 1990 and 1993 Omnibus Budget Reconciliations added a large amount of revenue (the 1990 bill added 2.7 percent over the baseline, while the 1993 bill added an additional 3.5 percent).
 

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