Who is the biggest victim? victims deserve special treatment and attention

[PaintMyHouse]

Indians have it pretty good these days. Their casinos are a license to print money, they can sell cigarettes, they can go to college for free. Sure, we stole their land. But every square inch of land we stole from the Indians was already stolen from other Indians.

Life is a paradise now, for those people we slaughtered to create the place. If only Whitey could be so lucky...

 

[Moonglow]

Indians have it pretty good these days. Their casinos are a license to print money, they can sell cigarettes, they can go to college for free. Sure, we stole their land. But every square inch of land we stole from the Indians was already stolen from other Indians.

yeah, for a Christians that is justification enough to sin....

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Native Americans... but we slaughtered them to the point where they almost no longer count

There are many more Indians in America today than there were when Columbus discovered America. Just a fact.

Thank you for discovering us. It's always uplifting to see how many people are willing to "white"wash genocide. Are we better off today? Sure we are. Was it necessary to slaughter us by the thousands, steal our land, and relocate us to shitty reservations in order to bring us to modernity? Hell no! I don't for a moment think we're owed reparations because individually nobody is owed anything more than what they earn with their own hard work and diligence, but I won't abide the re writing of history to make a cruel atrocity an act of charity.

That's just sick.

Actually this is whats sick. I cant imagine how badly you suffer from an inferiority complex.

"Are we better off today? Sure we are."

Native American Living Conditions on Reservations - Native American Aid

You're drawing the wrong comparison. We live to ripe old ages, able to see our kids grow and produce grandchildren. I don't have to worry about dying in some pointless territorial war with a neighboring tribe. I don't have to worry that my own sons will either. Ours is a peaceful existence today with every modern amenity at our disposal.

But you're right about the reservations. I'll always respect how my father worked hard to move us off the reservation in Montana so that we wouldn't grow up with the same sense of despondency, despair, alcoholism, drug abuse, and hopelessness that many Native Americans have who choose to remain in victim status. But the operative word is "choice", something we have today that my ancestors really didn't have. Nobody has to live in the squalor of the reservations and I'm living proof of that.

I've yet to meet a single NA, no matter how much they bitch about the white man, express a desire to live the brutal, short, pointless existence that would have been without intervention.

You were able to do all that before white people put you on reservations dummy. They really messed you up didnt they? I am part Blackfoot from Mississippi and all of my NA relatives hated white people. Sorry dog. They trained you pretty good.

I dont hate white people. I hate white racists and sellouts.

I'm Blackfoot too. And what my father did demonstrates the power of choice. Nobody has to be a victim, including you.

And one more thing, when you think that whte cops "harassing you" are automatically racist, that kind of presumption arises from deeply seated racism. Hate. You're full of it just like all "victims" are. Even to the point you dream about shooting white cops in the head. That's your choice and not mine. And typical of all racists, you hate all those who aren't racist as you are, calling them vile names. People like you don't know how to love and you see everything through the eyes of hate.

I'm sad for you this Christmas. You've discovered the "power" of being a victim to the point you don't understand that all the worst crimes are committed by those most persuaded that they are the ones being persecuted. Neo nazis think they're the victims. So do terrorists. And the most horrific atrocities are committed by those thinking they are fighting back against unjustified aggression, the two cops who were executed being case in point.

You can be so consumed by hate that it eats you from the inside out, destroys all your humanity and cripples your ability to sense love, beauty, and hope. You come to assume the worst about people and miss out on how generous and loving people can be. You call me a "sellout" because I'm not angry like you, walking around consumed by an eternal grudge for crimes committed against my ancestors. Well again, that brings us back to choice; something I have and something you have too.

This Christmas I pray that something lovely happens to you, something that cracks open a shaft of light from heaven and gives you a different perspective, even if just for the moment. When it happens, I hope you embrace it. Hate is powerful, but love will set you free.

And Merry Christmas.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I was sad to see that my people aren't victims.

Native Americans.

They are no longer your people. You sold them out for a white catholic named saint michael.

Saint Michael is an angel. Race need not apply. I know a racist like you can't fathom that.

And American Indians have been Catholic for over 500 years, you stupid cop-killer wannabe.

Saint Michael is an angel from a religion your people never heard of until white people made you become catholic. Good job taking the reeducation to heart. Hitler would have loved you.

Your grasp of history is disheartening. The French and Spanish settlers shared the land with us and treated us kindly. You see through the lens of Manifest Destiny and assume that all white people were cruel to us. Nobody imposed Catholicism on us, we gratefully embraced it from kind hearted whites.

If you didn't hate white people so much, you might see the truth.

The Spanish were some of the best sadists when it came to enslavement of the natives...

Not the Spanish missions in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and other places. This is the problem with viewing history through the lens of rash generalizations. Besides, it was quickly found out by anyone that tried that NAs made lousy slaves.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Indians have it pretty good these days. Their casinos are a license to print money, they can sell cigarettes, they can go to college for free. Sure, we stole their land. But every square inch of land we stole from the Indians was already stolen from other Indians.

Those Indians who own casinos leave a lot of their fellow Natives behind. A windfall for a select few doesn't translate into prosperity for the whole.

And as far as your second statement it saddens how often I have to remind people that one wrong doesn't justify another. It's unsettling how many people believe otherwise.

 

[Mac1958]

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American Blacks, easily.

Generations isolated from society by those who claim to "care".

Their second horrific victimization in this country's history.

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[Book of Jeremiah]

Please vote on who you think deserves the most sympathy, reparations, attention, etc. Jews for Holocaust? Conservatives for having Christmas stolen? gays for not being able to marry? Vegans? Liberals for having their wealth oppressed by liberals? Muslims for being bombed in Syria and the middle east?

I find it interesting that you despise Christians so much you cannot even bring yourself to list us by name, pvsi. Why is that? Isn't it because the Islamists consider Christianity to be the greatest threat to Islam on the planet? Yet you claim Jesus was a prophet and you respect him. If this were true Islam would not be committing genocide against Christians world wide and you'd call him Jesus instead of Issa which is a false Jesus and you would also believe His Word according to the Bible instead of taking the word of fallible men! Something to consider today!

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Please vote on who you think deserves the most sympathy, reparations, attention, etc. Jews for Holocaust? Conservatives for having Christmas stolen? gays for not being able to marry? Vegans? Liberals for having their wealth oppressed by liberals? Muslims for being bombed in Syria and the middle east?

I find it interesting that you despise Christians so much you cannot even bring yourself to list us by name, pvsi. Why is that? Isn't it because the Islamists consider Christianity to be the greatest threat to Islam on the planet? Yet you claim Jesus was a prophet and you respect him. If this were true Islam would not be committing genocide against Christians world wide and you'd call him Jesus instead of Issa which is a false Jesus and you would also believe His Word according to the Bible instead of taking the word of fallible men! Something to consider today!

The only difference between Christianity and Islam, besides the fact that one is supposed to be peaceful but isn't, is the Muslims actually believe what their holy book says while the Christians do not. Islam is a faith of warriors, Christianity is a faith of peacemakers, supposedly.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Please vote on who you think deserves the most sympathy, reparations, attention, etc. Jews for Holocaust? Conservatives for having Christmas stolen? gays for not being able to marry? Vegans? Liberals for having their wealth oppressed by liberals? Muslims for being bombed in Syria and the middle east?

I find it interesting that you despise Christians so much you cannot even bring yourself to list us by name, pvsi. Why is that? Isn't it because the Islamists consider Christianity to be the greatest threat to Islam on the planet? Yet you claim Jesus was a prophet and you respect him. If this were true Islam would not be committing genocide against Christians world wide and you'd call him Jesus instead of Issa which is a false Jesus and you would also believe His Word according to the Bible instead of taking the word of fallible men! Something to consider today!

The only difference between Christianity and Islam, besides the fact that one is supposed to be peaceful but isn't, is the Muslims actually believe what their holy book says while the Christians do not. Islam is a faith of warriors, Christianity is a faith of peacemakers, supposedly.

Yes, note the word - peacemakers not peacekeepers like the useless peacekeepers working for the United Nations. We see how they kept the peace in Rwanda!
A government that represents a sovereign nation has the right to send its military to war to protect it's own citizens. In the matter of WWII tell me what you suppose would have happened had we not got involved - would the entire Jewish population have been wiped out? 6 million Jews ( I suspect higher number) lost their lives in WWII. It was the right thing to go in and stop it and Hitler's aspirations were to rule the world. Not just Europe.

The backbone of that operation was Rees Howells and his student intercessors - it was a two fold operation and the proof it works is in the results. Hitler was defeated.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Please vote on who you think deserves the most sympathy, reparations, attention, etc. Jews for Holocaust? Conservatives for having Christmas stolen? gays for not being able to marry? Vegans? Liberals for having their wealth oppressed by liberals? Muslims for being bombed in Syria and the middle east?

I find it interesting that you despise Christians so much you cannot even bring yourself to list us by name, pvsi. Why is that? Isn't it because the Islamists consider Christianity to be the greatest threat to Islam on the planet? Yet you claim Jesus was a prophet and you respect him. If this were true Islam would not be committing genocide against Christians world wide and you'd call him Jesus instead of Issa which is a false Jesus and you would also believe His Word according to the Bible instead of taking the word of fallible men! Something to consider today!

The only difference between Christianity and Islam, besides the fact that one is supposed to be peaceful but isn't, is the Muslims actually believe what their holy book says while the Christians do not. Islam is a faith of warriors, Christianity is a faith of peacemakers, supposedly.

Yes, note the word - peacemakers not peacekeepers like the useless peacekeepers working for the United Nations. We see how they kept the peace in Rwanda!
A government that represents a sovereign nation has the right to send its military to war to protect it's own citizens. In the matter of WWII tell me what you suppose would have happened had we not got involved - would the entire Jewish population have been wiped out? 6 million Jews ( I suspect higher number) lost their lives in WWII. It was the right thing to go in and stop it and Hitler's aspirations were to rule the world. Not just Europe.

The backbone of that operation was Rees Howells and his student intercessors - it was a two fold operation and the proof it works is in the results. Hitler was defeated.

We didn't stop Hitler because of the Jews. We knew they were being slaughtered, and didn't care.

And there is no such thing as a Christian Soldier, it's impossible according to the teachings of Jesus, however there are Muslim soldiers, that is part of the faith, when required.

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Some did care, some did not - you are partly correct in the reasons for going into WWII, PMH. As for there is no such thing as a Christian soldier, did I not define the role of the Christian soldier in that war clearly enough? I shall try again. Rees Howells ( who was a 4 star General in the faith) and his intercessors prayed against Hitler and his diabolical plans fervently - it was a battle of intercession that the world shall not know the half of until the day we see God and hear the story of it - nevertheless - that was the role of the "Christian soldier" - the battle was waged in the earthly realm through General Patton and his men and many soldiers joining to stop the onslaught of Hitler and his army / nazis/ diaobolical plans. It was two - fold - I already made the point.

You're referring to these scriptures no doubt, PMH:
For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh,for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses.…

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That is literal - if Christians realized the power of prayer - they would pray more. Islam is powerless in prayer because their god is not God Almighty but Satan who is limited in what he can do - their only power is to work under his rule which is through Fear, intimidation, murder, rape, sex slavery, sacrificing their children to Baal <------------- THAT. You know who they serve by the fruits of what they do. That is how you know them.

 

[Bush92]

There are no victims in the United States. Just those who work, and those who are lazy crybabies (aka liberals)

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

There are no victims in the United States. Just those who work, and those who are lazy crybabies (aka liberals)

True, but if he insists on knowing who deserves our sympathy I am voting for the Jews. I believe they have suffered more than any other group he listed so they get my vote. The Jews are the last people on earth to expect special treatment and attention. They have done without it for so long it isn't even an afterthought. Seriously.

 

[Bush92]

There are no victims in the United States. Just those who work, and those who are lazy crybabies (aka liberals)

True, but if he insists on knowing who deserves our sympathy I am voting for the Jews. I believe they have suffered more than any other group he listed so they get my vote. The Jews are the last people on earth to expect special treatment and attention. They have done without it for so long it isn't even an afterthought. Seriously.

They deserve neither. You mean the Jews that run Goldman Sachs, or the poor ones that own Zales Jewelry store?

 

[Book of Jeremiah]

Do you always condemn a faith and ethnicity for the failure of some to adhere or is that only exclusive to Judaism? Just wondering.

Note > For every crook you can show me that is Jewish I can show you 100 more that would never dream of doing such a thing. What you are blaming on Judaism you should be attributing to sin.

 

[Brucethethinker]

... every square inch of land we stole from the Indians was already stolen from other Indians.

... it saddens how often I have to remind people that one wrong doesn't justify another. It's unsettling how many people believe otherwise.

Let me give you an analogy. Your nephew steals a bicycle. Then, someone steals it from him, and he's crying about it, poor me! poor me! What do you tell him? Personally, I'd say "payback is a bitch".

 

[Tom Sweetnam]

Jesus. Stalin murdered 25 million people and probably another 10 million during The Great Patriotic War, Mao murdered 65 million people, and Pol Pot murdered half the population of Cambodia, but I guess yellow people and Soviets don't mean anything to leftists during accounting questions like that posed in the OP.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

According to the Left, you're not a victim unless they think you are. Without exception, everyone is descended from a people afflicted by historical wrongs and that includes white people. But Leftists have their heads so far up their ass about "white privilege" they see the world as white people oppressing everyone else. Their racism is so thick it perverts their entire view of history.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

... every square inch of land we stole from the Indians was already stolen from other Indians.

... it saddens how often I have to remind people that one wrong doesn't justify another. It's unsettling how many people believe otherwise.

Let me give you an analogy. Your nephew steals a bicycle. Then, someone steals it from him, and he's crying about it, poor me! poor me! What do you tell him? Personally, I'd say "payback is a bitch".

So you're arguing that two wrongs do make a right.