Who is the Biggest Obama supporter on USMB?

[Jon]

I vote "None of the above."

They are all foaming-at-the-mouth liberals who would vote for a rutabaga as long as it was wearing blue. None of them give two fucks about Obama, all they care about is that he's sewn right into the fabric of liberal core values. He fell into party lines, they fell into party lines. The minute he steps out of line, he's dead in their eyes. Want proof?

I was a Hillary supporter until I realized how much Bill went along with the GOP. He was a centrist. A sellout!

Also, I got a huge fucking kick out of the rest of that post, especially when he said:

When the GOP change their evil ways, maybe I'll switch.

Didn't he JUST accuse Bill of being a sellout for switching?

This guy is so fucking blind and ignorant. It pains me to see his ignorance, really.

Also, why is Ravi in this poll? I haven't seen much Obama love from her. Not that I've seen Obama hate, but she's not on her knees servicing his cock everyday like the rest of them.

 

[sealybobo]

I vote "None of the above."

They are all foaming-at-the-mouth liberals who would vote for a rutabaga as long as it was wearing blue. None of them give two fucks about Obama, all they care about is that he's sewn right into the fabric of liberal core values. He fell into party lines, they fell into party lines. The minute he steps out of line, he's dead in their eyes. Want proof?

I was a Hillary supporter until I realized how much Bill went along with the GOP. He was a centrist. A sellout!

Also, I got a huge fucking kick out of the rest of that post, especially when he said:

When the GOP change their evil ways, maybe I'll switch.

Didn't he JUST accuse Bill of being a sellout for switching?

This guy is so fucking blind and ignorant. It pains me to see his ignorance, really.

Also, why is Ravi in this poll? I haven't seen much Obama love from her. Not that I've seen Obama hate, but she's not on her knees servicing his cock everyday like the rest of them.

Well j, you are correct that after 8 years of Bush and after listening to Rudy, Mitt, Huckabee & McCain, I would vote for ANY Democrat over ANY Republican, and that includes Ron Paul.

But again J, the DMC is not in my GENES. I choose to be a Democrat, based on the evidence and my feelings. Sorry if I do THE EXACT OPPOSITE of what you do J, but lets be honest, you wouldn't vote for a Democrat, even if he was great. How do I know? Because Obama is great.

Everything you think about him you learned from Rush, and he lied to you. So you are basing your opinion on lies.

 

[michiganFats]

I know where Sealy is coming from, and I agree. I'm right there with him. I'll change my allegiance if someone gives me a reason to.

 

[sealybobo]

I vote "None of the above."

They are all foaming-at-the-mouth liberals who would vote for a rutabaga as long as it was wearing blue. None of them give two fucks about Obama, all they care about is that he's sewn right into the fabric of liberal core values. He fell into party lines, they fell into party lines. The minute he steps out of line, he's dead in their eyes. Want proof?

I was a Hillary supporter until I realized how much Bill went along with the GOP. He was a centrist. A sellout!

Also, I got a huge fucking kick out of the rest of that post, especially when he said:

When the GOP change their evil ways, maybe I'll switch.

Didn't he JUST accuse Bill of being a sellout for switching?

This guy is so fucking blind and ignorant. It pains me to see his ignorance, really.

Also, why is Ravi in this poll? I haven't seen much Obama love from her. Not that I've seen Obama hate, but she's not on her knees servicing his cock everyday like the rest of them.

What does Clinton being a sellout have to do with the GOP being the worst option for middle class people? What the fuck is wrong with you? Do you get off on making something out of nothing? So does your girlfriend.

Listen very carefully you little bitch. I lost a lot of respect for Bill and Hillary because they went along with the GOP much too much. So if I don't like Clinton, its because he was too much like a Republican.

Just like you idiots say Bush was a complete and utter failure because he went too far to the left.

And what is wrong with NOT supporting the president when/if he doesn't do what he promised? You should have stopped supporting Bush the minute he started spending all our money, and when you found out he lied us into Iraq.

Instead you got even more protective of Bush.

That's dangerous.

I think Obama should know that he does not have our undying loyalty.

I heard the economic stimulus package isn't going to small business enough. Now I'm going to pay attention to see if all this money is going to big business, or if small business is getting their fair share.

You didn't question Bush once, or pay attention to all his fuck ups. That's how he got away with it. You blindly followed him off a cliff.

So keep telling me I'm stupid when you are a dumb fucken ahole.

 

[sealybobo]

I know where Sealy is coming from, and I agree. I'm right there with him. I'll change my allegiance if someone gives me a reason to.

Someone jogged my memory the other day. I remember calling french fries FREEDOM FRIES and I remember saying F THE DIXIE CHICKS and I remember being mad at Canada for not going into Iraq with us.

If the election were held in 2002, I would have no doubt voted for GW Bush.

Can Jsaunders or any other little bitch say there was ever a time when they would have voted for Clinton, Gore or Kerry?

Then FUCK OFF Jsaunders!!!!

 

[michiganFats]

Sealy, I'm right there with you.

 

[johnrocks]

hey beaver with a problem...you didnt do a poll dumbass...

i voted for obama

doesnt make me a big supporter only a voter in tween a rock and a hard place

lol, I hear ya. I voted third party, it was either that or go hunting that morning, because I wasn't going to choose between the "village idiot" and the "class clown".

 

[sealybobo]

hey beaver with a problem...you didnt do a poll dumbass...

i voted for obama

doesnt make me a big supporter only a voter in tween a rock and a hard place

lol, I hear ya. I voted third party, it was either that or go hunting that morning, because I wasn't going to choose between the "village idiot" and the "class clown".

So who did you vote for? Bob Barr?

 

[michiganFats]

Sealy, just be honest, shut up, and admit you're a Obama honk

 

[Jon]

I know where Sealy is coming from, and I agree. I'm right there with him. I'll change my allegiance if someone gives me a reason to.

Someone jogged my memory the other day. I remember calling french fries FREEDOM FRIES and I remember saying F THE DIXIE CHICKS and I remember being mad at Canada for not going into Iraq with us.

If the election were held in 2002, I would have no doubt voted for GW Bush.

Can Jsaunders or any other little bitch say there was ever a time when they would have voted for Clinton, Gore or Kerry?

Then FUCK OFF Jsaunders!!!!

Here's the irony. I supported Gore (was too young to vote), voted for Kerry, AND campaigned for Hillary for four years. I have NEVER voted Republican in my life (and that includes McCain).

Everything you think about him you learned from Rush, and he lied to you. So you are basing your opinion on lies.

Never listened to Rush before in my life. Everything I know about Rush's comments, I hear from your whining.

Stop trying to paint me as something I'm not. I'm not a Republican. I'm a liberal fiscal conservative, which places me right in the moderate column. I don't support parties, I don't support candidates, I support the issues.

Trying to paint me as a die hard Republican doesn't work. Anyone who's actually read my posts knows that it not the case. Besides, even if I were a die hard Republican, that doesn't make you any less of a die hard Democrat. But, I'm not a die hard Republican, and yet you still ARE a die hard Democrat. And what's ridiculous is sometimes you try to pretend you're not. Your constant contradictions are hilarious. "I would vote for a good Republican." "I would vote for ANY Democrat over ANY Republican." It's sad, because there are plenty of Republicans who trump many Democrats. And hey, guess what, there are plenty of Democrats who trump plenty of Republicans. But you'll never see that, it's all red versus blue for you. You don't care about the issues, you care about the party.

Also, the more you try to show me as a Bush follower, the more ridiculous you appear. I opposed Bush before he was even a Presidential candidate. I never supported his Presidency or his administration. That's not to say there weren't times I agreed with him, but there were certainly more disagreeances.

 

[sealybobo]

Sealy, just be honest, shut up, and admit you're a Obama honk

That reminds me of a saying. "Hey, do me a favor and shut your mouth when you are talking to me".

Oh for sure I'm an Obamaniac. He got elected because of middle class and poor black people. If he lets them down, they won't show up in 2012.

And I'm not suggesting that he's going to favor black people. I'm suggesting that he's going to favor middle class people in general.

Carter did. Gore certainly cares about human's more than Bush. Agreed?

And Clinton was good to the American people. You can argue how he fucked us too, but you could also make the same argument for Reagan. Both were centrists. Reagan leaned right, but not too much, and Clinton leaned left, but not too much.

But for me, Clinton didn't lean left enough. But how could he with a GOP Congress? So Obama has an advantage to really push the envelope.

And so Republicans tell us lefties that Obama is no better than Bush. They are all the same.

But what do they tell under informed conservatives? That he's the most liberal.

I have heard all the claims from the GOP. Socialist, hates whites, hangs out with terrorists, got more money from corporations than McCain, has lobbyists working for him, his spending is no different than Bush's spending, he's gonna keep us in Iraq and excellerate Afganistan, etc.

I've heard all the warnings from the right. Not buying any of it. There is only so much Obama can do in 30 days. Give him time.

And I know that the problem isn't GOVERNMENT. The problem is that Corporations own our politicians. That's why we voted all the GOP bums out in 06 and last year.

Now are the corporations right now buying the Democrats? Sure. But the Dems will only go so far. The GOP however, will go all the way. They'll lube us up, put the condom on corporations and let the corporations rape us until we are all poor.

If that isn't obvious after the last 8 years, then I don't know what I can say to change your mind.

 

[sealybobo]

I know where Sealy is coming from, and I agree. I'm right there with him. I'll change my allegiance if someone gives me a reason to.

Someone jogged my memory the other day. I remember calling french fries FREEDOM FRIES and I remember saying F THE DIXIE CHICKS and I remember being mad at Canada for not going into Iraq with us.

If the election were held in 2002, I would have no doubt voted for GW Bush.

Can Jsaunders or any other little bitch say there was ever a time when they would have voted for Clinton, Gore or Kerry?

Then FUCK OFF Jsaunders!!!!

Here's the irony. I supported Gore (was too young to vote), voted for Kerry, AND campaigned for Hillary for four years. I have NEVER voted Republican in my life (and that includes McCain).

Everything you think about him you learned from Rush, and he lied to you. So you are basing your opinion on lies.

Never listened to Rush before in my life. Everything I know about Rush's comments, I hear from your whining.

Stop trying to paint me as something I'm not. I'm not a Republican. I'm a liberal fiscal conservative, which places me right in the moderate column. I don't support parties, I don't support candidates, I support the issues.

Trying to paint me as a die hard Republican doesn't work. Anyone who's actually read my posts knows that it not the case. Besides, even if I were a die hard Republican, that doesn't make you any less of a die hard Democrat. But, I'm not a die hard Republican, and yet you still ARE a die hard Democrat. And what's ridiculous is sometimes you try to pretend you're not. Your constant contradictions are hilarious. "I would vote for a good Republican." "I would vote for ANY Democrat over ANY Republican." It's sad, because there are plenty of Republicans who trump many Democrats. And hey, guess what, there are plenty of Democrats who trump plenty of Republicans. But you'll never see that, it's all red versus blue for you. You don't care about the issues, you care about the party.

Also, the more you try to show me as a Bush follower, the more ridiculous you appear. I opposed Bush before he was even a Presidential candidate. I never supported his Presidency or his administration. That's not to say there weren't times I agreed with him, but there were certainly more disagreeances.

So you are a Libertarian. I disagree with them almost as much. Plus, most of them/you are full of shit anyways. You play both sides of the fense. You can bash the GOP but voting for Bob Barr is basically a vote for McCain.

So why do you hate Obama so much? I thought you were a GOP for sure. I've argued with you too much for you to be anything else.

Plus, what about the contradiction you must have in your head? The Libertarians admit the bankers own this country and even Ron Paul says we should do away with the Federal Reserve. Rich bankers run that. They actually bailed out AIG a year or two ago without even going thru congress. That was our money they loaned AIG. Without permission? So I agree with Libertarians that we need to take back the treasury and have the government in charge, not rich bankers.

But Republicans say rich bankers/free market/capitalism should do it.

So which voice do you listen to?

 

[johnrocks]

hey beaver with a problem...you didnt do a poll dumbass...

i voted for obama

doesnt make me a big supporter only a voter in tween a rock and a hard place

lol, I hear ya. I voted third party, it was either that or go hunting that morning, because I wasn't going to choose between the "village idiot" and the "class clown".

So who did you vote for? Bob Barr?

Ron Paul. He was on our ballot in this State. Beats Obammy or John "Feingold,Leiberman,Kennedy,bombbomb bomb Iran, cap andtrade, my friends" McCainut, that's for sure.

 

[michiganFats]

Sealy, I feel you, and you're right.

 

[Jon]

I didn't realize that not being Republican or Democrat meant I was a libertarian. Of the candidates in the last election, Barr was pretty close to my economic stance, but he never would have succeeded because he would never get any of the paid employees in Congress to support his economical changes. Obama, on the other hand, is paid for by the same people who bought Congress, so he has an easy ride.

 

[sealybobo]

lol, I hear ya. I voted third party, it was either that or go hunting that morning, because I wasn't going to choose between the "village idiot" and the "class clown".

So who did you vote for? Bob Barr?

Ron Paul. He was on our ballot in this State. Beats Obammy or John "Feingold,Leiberman,Kennedy,bombbomb bomb Iran, cap andtrade, my friends" McCainut, that's for sure.

Too bad Ron Paul's message of truth doesn't cut the mustard in the GOP. You saw how the GOP and Corporate media treated him when he spoke out. Did you see him on Glen Beck? It was before Beck went to Fox. Ron Paul was talking facts and Beck was rolling his eyes as if Ron Paul was crazy.

And I think when Ron Paul says smaller government, he doesn't mean impotent government like the GOP mean. But I do worry about the libertarians message of Every man for himself.

Do I like Democratic spending? Not all of it. But I also would not like to see Ron Paul cut social programs I agree with. But he probably would clean up our financial mess. So I might vote for him and give him 4 years.

So right now, Obama is the best choice for Prez, IMO. I LOVE HIM!!!!

 

[michiganFats]

jsanders, it is great, and it sucks, to be a true American

 

[sealybobo]

I didn't realize that not being Republican or Democrat meant I was a libertarian. Of the candidates in the last election, Barr was pretty close to my economic stance, but he never would have succeeded because he would never get any of the paid employees in Congress to support his economical changes. Obama, on the other hand, is paid for by the same people who bought Congress, so he has an easy ride.

I see Obama making a lot of changes I certainly approve of. In April you will start seeing more money on your paycheck. He found UBS was helping the richest Americans swindle the US Government out of billions of dollars.

Regulations being put back into place.

Better relations with the rest of the world.

Dude, America is back!

PS. I understand you want the politicians to spend less. Of all the last few presidents, Clinton spent the least. And Obama is only spending his way out of the hole Bush dug him in. And the GOP has spun it so A, they deny the GOP is even responsible for digging this hole and B, that they have a better solution than Obama.

But you won't even be happy if Obama has a balanced budget by 2013. Will you? Let's make a bet now. Will you apologize if he accomplishes that?

 

[Jon]

So why do you hate Obama so much?

Because I don't believe in subsidizing every aspect of human life. I believe people should be responsible and work for themselves to do better. I did, anyone can. You can blame the state of the economy all you want for unemployment, and you'd be right. But the truth is when there were millions of jobs out there, people weren't applying for them because it was too easy to live off the government. It still is. Do you know how many people are serving out their full unemployment benefits instead of actually LOOKING FOR A JOB? There are local temporary employment agencies that said they have several dozen jobs open, and no one is asking for applications because they still get unemployment benefits. That's what's wrong with America today. People aren't taking initiative and they aren't working for themselves, and politicians like Obama make it easier for them to live those lifestyles. You know the old saying about giving a man a fish, right? Obama isn't teaching anyone anything, he's just giving them what they want. You want the poor to find work? Take away their food stamp and welfare. They'll either find jobs or starve to death. Either way, they'll better serve the greater good of the public. What is this administration doing? Increasing benefits for programs like food stamps, welfare, and SSI, and now we're paying people's mortgages for them. We're also going to pay for their health care. So...what do THEY pay for? They don't work, they don't contribute to society. Properly managed, a single person can draw welfare and foodstamps, afford a home, utilities (including cable), and a vehicle. They get all the luxuries of a America without lifting a goddamn finger, while I bust my ass for it. Sure, I have nicer things because I work and earn more money. But why should they get ANY luxuries if they aren't going to work for them?

I don't mind government aid programs, if they weren't so easy to abuse and they didn't vastly overpay benefits. If a person wants to live off the government, I feel as though they should live in designated houses with only necessary utilities. They should not be given blank checks to spend freely. Their housing and living expenses should be covered, period, and no extra cash disbursements should be awarded. Do you realize how much welfare and SSI benefits contribute to the drug problems in this country? Cash your welfare check, pay your bills, buy drugs with the leftover. It's so easy, and no one is doing anything to stop it. This includes Obama. He's not stopping it. He's making it easier.

I thought you were a GOP for sure. I've argued with you too much for you to be anything else.

Exactly, because you're an idiot. "If you're not with us, you're against us." I believe that was one of Bush's best quotes. You serve the statement well.

They actually bailed out AIG a year or two ago without even going thru congress.

It's not as if Congress would have stopped them. This Congress loves to bail out the stupid and undeserving.

So I agree with Libertarians that we need to take back the treasury and have the government in charge, not rich bankers.

Yet you vote Democrats, who are just as bad as the Republicans. They are all bought and paid for by the same people.

But Republicans say rich bankers/free market/capitalism should do it.

So which voice do you listen to?

I don't listen to voices, or talk show hosts, or read ThomHartmann and memorize his work. I think for myself. I study the issues. I decide which stance I want to take. I don't let someone else make those decisions for me, but being a die hard Democrat, I can understand why you do. You're willing to let the government make all of your decisions, so long as you don't have to work for it.

 

[Jon]

I see Obama making a lot of changes I certainly approve of. In April you will start seeing more money on your paycheck. He found UBS was helping the richest Americans swindle the US Government out of billions of dollars.

More money on my paycheck doesn't mean much to me. That little bit of tax savings doesn't change much. Imagine the tax savings we COULD have if the government would eliminate all the programs that are funding those that don't work.

Regulations being put back into place.

This occurred years ago. Don't give credit to Obama. The SEC and FASB, along with accountants in general, have been enforcing regulations on their own. We didn't need the government to tell us to do it.

Better relations with the rest of the world.

This is one area I agree with Obama on, and his appointment of Hillary was the first and so far only thing he's done that I really approve it.

Dude, America is back!

To what?

But you won't even be happy if Obama has a balanced budget by 2013. Will you? Let's make a bet now. Will you apologize if he accomplishes that?

I will be glad if the budget is balanced, but at what cost? Like I said, the budget would be easy to balance if they didn't spend so much. I don't even mind the high tax rates, if the money collected was used to actually pay off the debt. Instead, we're using it to fund pet projects and subsidize every aspect of human life. If we raised taxes for a few years, eliminated unnecessary spending, and paid off the debt, we could lower taxes even more for all taxpayers, not just the rich OR poor.