Who did Putin REALLY want to win the 2016 election? Or didn't it matter?

Did Putin have more leverage on Hillary or Trump during the 2016 election?

  • HIllary, the hacked emails, the UraniumOne scam, paying for the Trump Dossier,

    Votes: 5 62.5%
  • Trump, the Tower Deal, other secret deals for lifting sanctions,

    Votes: 3 37.5%

  • Total voters
    8

kyzr

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The MSM keeps up the drumbeat that Putin wanted Trump to win the 2016 election. Putin must have really wanted Hillary to win, because if he wanted Trump to win he would have simply released the hacked emails proving her wrongdoing. Remember, Hillary had a 99% chance of winning, and Putin had her emails ready to blackmail her.

Even if Putin dangled the Trump Tower deal in Moscow for Trump, covering both bases as a good chess-player should, that wasn't as iron-clad as incriminating emails. With Trump winning, what does Putin still have on him? What did they discuss in private at Helsinki? Its tougher seeing what "compromat" Putin has on Trump than what he has on Hillary.
 
it mattered to Russia ..

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The MSM keeps up the drumbeat that Putin wanted Trump to win the 2016 election. Putin must have really wanted Hillary to win, because if he wanted Trump to win he would have simply released the hacked emails proving her wrongdoing. Remember, Hillary had a 99% chance of winning, and Putin had her emails ready to blackmail her.

Even if Putin dangled the Trump Tower deal in Moscow for Trump, covering both bases as a good chess-player should, that wasn't as iron-clad as incriminating emails. With Trump winning, what does Putin still have on him? What did they discuss in private at Helsinki? Its tougher seeing what "compromat" Putin has on Trump than what he has on Hillary.
Incriminating emails my ass dot-dot-dot only on our ridiculous gabfest media that needed stuff to talk about 24/7 365. As always none of the GOP conspiracy BS made it to the real world. Just cost Hillary the election that's all, along with big mouth Republican idiot James Comey.
 
In my opinion, Putin got what he aimed for. Discourse and distrust among the American public. It's funny how both parties have evidence of the other guy being linked to the Russian government. Now people are FREAKIN' OUT!
 
This is a no-brainer. Anyone who seriously believes Putin would want an American nationalist whose military slaughtered 200 Russian mercenaries in Syria to win, isn't playing with a full deck of cards.
 
Did you forget Helsinki already?

Putin made it clear he supported Trump. Our intell says he did just that. And Trump genuflected accordingly
 
Did you forget Helsinki already?

Putin made it clear he supported Trump. Our intell says he did just that. And Trump genuflected accordingly
Was it a crime? No sane people in the world wanted Hillary: she would have started a war with Russia by now.

But to want somebody to become a president and to do something for it is not the same. Any people with IQ higher than zero should feel the difference. Apparently, not you, liberals.
 
This is a no-brainer. Anyone who seriously believes Putin would want an American nationalist whose military slaughtered 200 Russian mercenaries in Syria to win, isn't playing with a full deck of cards.

welcome to the short deck ..

Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday congratulated Donald Trump for his victory in the US presidential elections, saying he hoped to work with him to improve relations, the Kremlin said in a statement.

In a telegram to Trump, Putin “expressed hope for mutual work on bringing US-Russia relations out of their critical condition” and said that “building constructive dialogue” would be in the interest of both countries and of the world community, the Kremlin said.
 
The MSM keeps up the drumbeat that Putin wanted Trump to win the 2016 election. Putin must have really wanted Hillary to win, because if he wanted Trump to win he would have simply released the hacked emails proving her wrongdoing. Remember, Hillary had a 99% chance of winning, and Putin had her emails ready to blackmail her.

Even if Putin dangled the Trump Tower deal in Moscow for Trump, covering both bases as a good chess-player should, that wasn't as iron-clad as incriminating emails. With Trump winning, what does Putin still have on him? What did they discuss in private at Helsinki? Its tougher seeing what "compromat" Putin has on Trump than what he has on Hillary.

Given how little they spent and the obscure areas of the internet where they spent it, my guess is they could have cared less who won. They probably knew the left would go batshit crazy if they made it look like they favored Trump though, and that would increase the extreme partisanship, divisiveness, intolerance, and crazy behavior that creates as much chaos as possible which I would bet a good steak dinner was their ultimate goal.
 
Given how little they spent and the obscure areas of the internet where they spent it, my guess is they could have cared less who won. They probably knew the left would go batshit crazy if they made it look like they favored Trump though, and that would increase the extreme partisanship, divisiveness, intolerance, and crazy behavior that creates as much chaos as possible which I would bet a good steak dinner was their ultimate goal.

There was a paper written by a Russian General touting "war on the cheap" doing exactly what they did.

Just because it was cheap doesn't make it any less effective
 
The MSM keeps up the drumbeat that Putin wanted Trump to win the 2016 election. Putin must have really wanted Hillary to win, because if he wanted Trump to win he would have simply released the hacked emails proving her wrongdoing. Remember, Hillary had a 99% chance of winning, and Putin had her emails ready to blackmail her.

Even if Putin dangled the Trump Tower deal in Moscow for Trump, covering both bases as a good chess-player should, that wasn't as iron-clad as incriminating emails. With Trump winning, what does Putin still have on him? What did they discuss in private at Helsinki? Its tougher seeing what "compromat" Putin has on Trump than what he has on Hillary.
What the hell are you talking about? Putin DID release the hacked emails. To wikileaks.


I love Wikileaks!
 
The MSM keeps up the drumbeat that Putin wanted Trump to win the 2016 election. Putin must have really wanted Hillary to win, because if he wanted Trump to win he would have simply released the hacked emails proving her wrongdoing. Remember, Hillary had a 99% chance of winning, and Putin had her emails ready to blackmail her.

Even if Putin dangled the Trump Tower deal in Moscow for Trump, covering both bases as a good chess-player should, that wasn't as iron-clad as incriminating emails. With Trump winning, what does Putin still have on him? What did they discuss in private at Helsinki? Its tougher seeing what "compromat" Putin has on Trump than what he has on Hillary.
What the hell are you talking about? Putin DID release the hacked emails. To wikileaks.


I love Wikileaks!


Nope, wiki released the DNC & Podesta emails, not Hillary's:

Hillary Clinton email controversy - Wikipedia

2016 Democratic National Committee email leak - Wikipedia

WikiLeaks - The Podesta Emails
 
The MSM keeps up the drumbeat that Putin wanted Trump to win the 2016 election. Putin must have really wanted Hillary to win, because if he wanted Trump to win he would have simply released the hacked emails proving her wrongdoing. Remember, Hillary had a 99% chance of winning, and Putin had her emails ready to blackmail her.

Even if Putin dangled the Trump Tower deal in Moscow for Trump, covering both bases as a good chess-player should, that wasn't as iron-clad as incriminating emails. With Trump winning, what does Putin still have on him? What did they discuss in private at Helsinki? Its tougher seeing what "compromat" Putin has on Trump than what he has on Hillary.
What the hell are you talking about? Putin DID release the hacked emails. To wikileaks.


I love Wikileaks!


Nope, wiki released the DNC & Podesta emails, not Hillary's:

Hillary Clinton email controversy - Wikipedia

2016 Democratic National Committee email leak - Wikipedia

WikiLeaks - The Podesta Emails


And Assange swears he did not receive those emails from the Russians.
 

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