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Again I repeat Some people are extremist not every Christian is going to let their kids die dude. For all we know those people were posing as Christians so they could kill their child and not look so bad. Who knows crazier things have happened.
criminal neglect, baba. prayer doesn't heal. A kid died because, apparently, faith was more important than insulin.
Not convicted yet, Shoggie.
So whattya think about all the FDLS kids being returned quietly as I TOLD YOU THEY SHOULD AND WOULD BE because they were seized illegally and in a way which had nothing to do with normal operating procedures of children's services?
Im not saying it is for sure but it could be. What if they got the kid insulin and she slipped and hit her head and died in the shower? We are all going to die. We were born dying. Maybe it was just her time.
whats wrong with that?
gosh, lemme dig up the last thread where a kid with diabetes dies because of thumper parents if you would rather not consider the historic record...
if ONLY people were "just having fun", eh?
but, funny you bring up the santa clause myth...
And shall we find all the examples of non religious people murdering and causeing mayhem and use it to justify vilifying them as non religious?
Better to push those same kids into the porn industry via Disney Channel.
Give me a break.
let me rephrase for you then buddy. Everyone on Earth besides you are dying. You on the other hand will live for ever. Which will be incredible. I salute you Mr. Roboto.
dying or not, this doesn't excuse killing a kid in the name of jebus. Now, go put Imagine on repeat and listen to the words this time.
Somewhat thin evidence, I think, to determine what happend 15 billion years ago. For all we know, the universe is more of a churning soup, and it just so happens that all the galaxies we can see are moving away from eachother for now, or there may be other explanations for the red-shift that makes it look like the galaxies are spreading apart.
The Big Bang theory is the simplest extrapolation from the most straight-forward interpretations of our current observations. That's what makes it a good scientific theory. It doesn't make it true, though. The evidence is far from overwhelming and the tests nonexistant.
You could argue that of all the popular "creation" stories, the Big Bang has the most emperical evidence going for it, but that isn't saying much.
Personally, I have yet to hear a creation story that didn't sound weird, silly, and unbelievable, and I've certainly never heard one that had enough substantial and well-tested evidence supporting it that I would believe it despite my reservations.
I listed reasons it was a good scientific theory.
It isn't rational to believe something just because it's a good scientific theory, though.
Good scientific theories approach certainty asymptotically in proportion to how well-tested they are. This one is a long way off from that.
Hm. Perhaps I'm just a romantic, but I can't help but suspect that there's more to the nature of the universe than patterns of physical behavoir, but *shrug* I can't really say.
Yes, limitations of observability and testability can be overcome through technology.
No doubt as time goes on we will develop a more piercing analysis of the history of the universe. I don't think either of us can say whether the Big Bang theory will survive such increased capabilities.
The "masses" need no help or prompting to remain gullible or to buy into authoritarian power structures. Science won't change that.
Surely, there's room in this world for a better mouse-trap; and understanding this does not make the current mouse-trap invalid or worthless--and it most certainly does not put the current mouse trap in the same category of effective usefulness as "believing" the mice away.
It irritates me that you would treat science as some sort of religion.
Yet, it is rational to reject any bad theory, just because it's bad.
Interesting hypothesis--how would you test it?
Why do I get the impression that you feel that one theory or the other must be believed?
:huff: People who have faith in the Big Bang theory are the ones religiousizing* science.
* - That's totally a real word. Srsly.
:smirk: I can't of course, as you know. Which means that science won't be able to help me investigate it.
But then, I don't expect science to be able to pierce every mystery; I don't see science as some sort of ultimate path of enlightenment, just as a tool, with rational limits.
