Who cares what you believe!

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    Everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe. The right-to-Life people believe that "Life begins at the moment of conception"

    I believe that all the people of the world should be my slaves.

    Who cares what you believe or what I believe!

    All that we as human beings have is intelligence and reason that we can use to discern something called "TRUTH". It is only that "Truth" that we can agree on. No one's beliefs form a basis of agreement until those beliefs can be determined to be true through the tools of logic, reason and physical proof.

    To date the best arguement that the "Right-to-life" people can offer is: "I BELIEVE life begins at the moments of conception".

    Well, I believe that you should all give me all you're money. I really do.

    Let's see some proof, O.K.?

    Back in the 1970's the best science could only determine that a embryo/fetus was an individual when it was "viable". A very subjective standard. Nowadays science offers an much more object, concrete way of measuring individualism: When an embryo/fetus has DNA that is unique from that of the mother, it cannot be a part of the mother: it is therefore an individual.

    Unfortunately, these "I BELIEVE" idiots, in their infinite conceipt, think that their opinion should rule the world. They can't scrape together an ounce of brains to figure out how to prove individualism in a way that matters.

    BTW, I really do believe that everyone should give me all their money and be my slave...I Believe..I Believe...oh, I gonna have another beer...:eusa_shifty:
     
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    Do you think that we can prove that a zygote is a distinct set of DNA? Or, for that matter, that a heartbeat indicates an active central nervous system?


    welcome to the party anyway. Dont take the free stomped mud holes in the ass personally.
     
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    I do not know exactly when an embryo/fetus/Zygote has distinct DNA, but whenever it has DNA, the science is developed enough to determine if it is distinct from that of the mother. How do you think DNA is used to determine guilt or innocense in rape cases? If they can measure the DNA of sperm cells, they can measure the DNA of an embryo/fetus/zygote.

    But I'll bet that the AMA doesn't want anyone to know that.
     
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    As much as I like your comments, I'm still confused. I think a woman should be able to abort, but until what point? the day before she's due? I think if the baby has downs or is severely retarded, they should have the option, especially when these bible thumpers won't help pay for the lifetime of cost.

    but I don't know what the cut of should be for healthyb babies. I say after 3 months, or 4, it should be the point of no return, but only healthy babies.

    just my opinion.

    by the way, I think every female should greet me with oral.
     
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    At conception is the fertilized embryo alive? Yes it is.

    What does the fertilized egg become? A human being.

    What you believe is irrelevant to those simple facts.
     
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    What does an un-fertilized egg become? Richard-H :lol:
     
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    Fact: An egg is not a chicken.. doesn't matter what the egg might ultimately become.

    Fact: Not every religion or belief system believes that "life begins at conception"...

    Conclusion: Government needs to stay out of the issue.
     
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    LOL Fine, Government butt out, so when the masses burn down some hospital for either allowing abortions or not allowing abortions, I guess no one should be prosecuted, I mean since Government should stay out and all.
     
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    especially after the child is born but that's when all of a sudden , the rules change. At least women had a choice--twice !
     
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    Fact: Every fertilized egg is alive. (until something kills it)

    Fact: Science, not just any "belief system" tells us that "life begins at conception". Your evolution from where it began (however it began) is an unending chain from the earliest life on Earth. Anywhere that chain was broken, life stopped for any plant, animal or human who had that chain broken.

    Conclusion: The Federal government needs to stay out of the issue.


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    I do. And that's all the sanction I need.
     
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