Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Shusha]

OK, collectively speaking, how many of those European settlers have ancestors from that territory?

The Jewish people are a people collectively. They ALL have ancestors from that territory. Else they would not BE Jewish. Its the act of being Jewish -- culturally, ethnically, religiously -- that MAKES them part of the Jewish collective.

Its not a matter of having the correct paperwork from 345 or 702 or 1121 or 1725 or 1814 or 1949. There is no way to have some sort of documentation from a diaspora which began so many thousands of years ago. Its a matter of self-identifying and being accepted by that People. Its a matter of being connected to the Jewish culture which arose on that territory.

It is the same measurement which is used to define indigenous peoples all over the world. What is WRONG with measuring it in that way?

 

[P F Tinmore]

OK, collectively speaking, how many of those European settlers have ancestors from that territory?

The Jewish people are a people collectively. They ALL have ancestors from that territory. Else they would not BE Jewish. Its the act of being Jewish -- culturally, ethnically, religiously -- that MAKES them part of the Jewish collective.

Its not a matter of having the correct paperwork from 345 or 702 or 1121 or 1725 or 1814 or 1949. There is no way to have some sort of documentation from a diaspora which began so many thousands of years ago. Its a matter of self-identifying and being accepted by that People. Its a matter of being connected to the Jewish culture which arose on that territory.

It is the same measurement which is used to define indigenous peoples all over the world. What is WRONG with measuring it in that way?

Holy smokescreen, Batman.

That is a pretty lame excuse to steal people's stuff.

 

[Sixties Fan]

OK, collectively speaking, how many of those European settlers have ancestors from that territory?

The Jewish people are a people collectively. They ALL have ancestors from that territory. Else they would not BE Jewish. Its the act of being Jewish -- culturally, ethnically, religiously -- that MAKES them part of the Jewish collective.

Its not a matter of having the correct paperwork from 345 or 702 or 1121 or 1725 or 1814 or 1949. There is no way to have some sort of documentation from a diaspora which began so many thousands of years ago. Its a matter of self-identifying and being accepted by that People. Its a matter of being connected to the Jewish culture which arose on that territory.

It is the same measurement which is used to define indigenous peoples all over the world. What is WRONG with measuring it in that way?

Holy smokescreen, Batman.

That is a pretty lame excuse to steal people's stuff.

This is how you work.

Christians and Muslims steal "stuff". It is ok.

Jews get sovereignty over their ancient homeland, only, it is stealing people's stuff.

One rule for Christians and Muslims.
Another rule for Jews.

Quick, Robin, leave the thief to cry over his "stuff" all alone.

Thieves always cry and cry and cry, and this one is one of the worse we have seen, if not THE worse.

 

[rylah]

OK, collectively speaking, how many of those European settlers have ancestors from that territory?

The Jewish people are a people collectively. They ALL have ancestors from that territory. Else they would not BE Jewish. Its the act of being Jewish -- culturally, ethnically, religiously -- that MAKES them part of the Jewish collective.

Its not a matter of having the correct paperwork from 345 or 702 or 1121 or 1725 or 1814 or 1949. There is no way to have some sort of documentation from a diaspora which began so many thousands of years ago. Its a matter of self-identifying and being accepted by that People. Its a matter of being connected to the Jewish culture which arose on that territory.

It is the same measurement which is used to define indigenous peoples all over the world. What is WRONG with measuring it in that way?

Holy smokescreen, Batman.

That is a pretty lame excuse to steal people's stuff.

What excused the Arabs to loot and massacre the Jewish community in Palestine, before Zionism?

 

[Sixties Fan]

OK, collectively speaking, how many of those European settlers have ancestors from that territory?

The Jewish people are a people collectively. They ALL have ancestors from that territory. Else they would not BE Jewish. Its the act of being Jewish -- culturally, ethnically, religiously -- that MAKES them part of the Jewish collective.

Its not a matter of having the correct paperwork from 345 or 702 or 1121 or 1725 or 1814 or 1949. There is no way to have some sort of documentation from a diaspora which began so many thousands of years ago. Its a matter of self-identifying and being accepted by that People. Its a matter of being connected to the Jewish culture which arose on that territory.

It is the same measurement which is used to define indigenous peoples all over the world. What is WRONG with measuring it in that way?

Holy smokescreen, Batman.

That is a pretty lame excuse to steal people's stuff.

What excused the Arabs to loot and massacre the Jewish community in Palestine, before Zionism?

Islam, and always Islam, the RIGHT of Islam, was the excuse the Arabs used to attack, steal, rape the Jews BEFORE Zionism.

And he knows it too well.

 

[rylah]

OK, collectively speaking, how many of those European settlers have ancestors from that territory?

The Jewish people are a people collectively. They ALL have ancestors from that territory. Else they would not BE Jewish. Its the act of being Jewish -- culturally, ethnically, religiously -- that MAKES them part of the Jewish collective.

Its not a matter of having the correct paperwork from 345 or 702 or 1121 or 1725 or 1814 or 1949. There is no way to have some sort of documentation from a diaspora which began so many thousands of years ago. Its a matter of self-identifying and being accepted by that People. Its a matter of being connected to the Jewish culture which arose on that territory.

It is the same measurement which is used to define indigenous peoples all over the world. What is WRONG with measuring it in that way?

Holy smokescreen, Batman.

That is a pretty lame excuse to steal people's stuff.

What excused the Arabs to loot and massacre the Jewish community in Palestine, before Zionism?

Islam, and always Islam, the RIGHT of Islam, was the excuse the Arabs used to attack, steal, rape the Jews BEFORE Zionism.

And he knows it too well.

And today, Sharia is officially at the basis of Palestinian law.
And the Palestinian ambassador openly promotes eviction of ALL Jews from a future Palestinian state.

 

[P F Tinmore]

OK, collectively speaking, how many of those European settlers have ancestors from that territory?

The Jewish people are a people collectively. They ALL have ancestors from that territory. Else they would not BE Jewish. Its the act of being Jewish -- culturally, ethnically, religiously -- that MAKES them part of the Jewish collective.

Its not a matter of having the correct paperwork from 345 or 702 or 1121 or 1725 or 1814 or 1949. There is no way to have some sort of documentation from a diaspora which began so many thousands of years ago. Its a matter of self-identifying and being accepted by that People. Its a matter of being connected to the Jewish culture which arose on that territory.

It is the same measurement which is used to define indigenous peoples all over the world. What is WRONG with measuring it in that way?

Holy smokescreen, Batman.

That is a pretty lame excuse to steal people's stuff.

What excused the Arabs to loot and massacre the Jewish community in Palestine, before Zionism?

Like what?
How many generations ago?

 

[rylah]

OK, collectively speaking, how many of those European settlers have ancestors from that territory?

The Jewish people are a people collectively. They ALL have ancestors from that territory. Else they would not BE Jewish. Its the act of being Jewish -- culturally, ethnically, religiously -- that MAKES them part of the Jewish collective.

Its not a matter of having the correct paperwork from 345 or 702 or 1121 or 1725 or 1814 or 1949. There is no way to have some sort of documentation from a diaspora which began so many thousands of years ago. Its a matter of self-identifying and being accepted by that People. Its a matter of being connected to the Jewish culture which arose on that territory.

It is the same measurement which is used to define indigenous peoples all over the world. What is WRONG with measuring it in that way?

Holy smokescreen, Batman.

That is a pretty lame excuse to steal people's stuff.

What excused the Arabs to loot and massacre the Jewish community in Palestine, before Zionism?

Like what?
How many generations ago?

Just prior to political Zionism. Look 1 generation before that, look 2, look 3...
Arabs massacred their Jewish neighbors in Palestine.

 

[Shusha]

OK, collectively speaking, how many of those European settlers have ancestors from that territory?

The Jewish people are a people collectively. They ALL have ancestors from that territory. Else they would not BE Jewish. Its the act of being Jewish -- culturally, ethnically, religiously -- that MAKES them part of the Jewish collective.

Its not a matter of having the correct paperwork from 345 or 702 or 1121 or 1725 or 1814 or 1949. There is no way to have some sort of documentation from a diaspora which began so many thousands of years ago. Its a matter of self-identifying and being accepted by that People. Its a matter of being connected to the Jewish culture which arose on that territory.

It is the same measurement which is used to define indigenous peoples all over the world. What is WRONG with measuring it in that way?

Holy smokescreen, Batman.

That is a pretty lame excuse to steal people's stuff.

Put the shoe on the other foot, Tinmore. According to your argument, the only Palestinians are those who are still in the land who have some sort of proof that they had ancestors from that territory earlier than 1925. The rest of them aren't really Palestinians. They are Jordanians, or Chilean or American or whatever. They don't count. They don't have rights. And if they return -- they are "settlers" stealing Jewish stuff.

So, I told you how I define a People. How do you?

 

[P F Tinmore]

 

[Hollie]

Islamics on Islamic degeneracy.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[These are the Palestinians, whose PA was just accepted into the (who knows who the members are) Interpol ]

31 PA schools named after terrorists
3 PA schools named after Nazi collaborators
41 PA school names glorify Martyrs or Martyrdom School funded by Belgium given name of terrorist

(full article online)

http://palwatch.org/STORAGE/special...schools named after terrorists, Sept 2017.pdf

 

[P F Tinmore]

A 1995 talk that could me made today.

Hanan Ashrawi, "The Side of Peace: A Personal Account" (Ford Hall Forum, 1995)

 

[P F Tinmore]

Lamis Deek: Women Against Imperialism Panel

 

[Sixties Fan]

Conspicuously, the Swedes are totally oblivious to the fact that Human Rights pertain to all humans not just Palestinians. Ashrawi has been an advocate for and an apologist of violence through decades of her "activism" as a Palestinian "legislator" and an official of the Arab League having and had little to do with peace or with coexistence. The Palme Center and the current Swedish Foreign Minister are doing a disservice to humanity and to the cause of peace by this dubious honor. And Ashrawi? She is laughing all the way to the (west) bank.....

Ashrawi represents a group that is actively engaged in violence and for the convenience of the occasional propaganda campaign(s) she utters words like "peace" that are absolutely obsequious and mean nothing other than serving as a deceptive component in a campaign of disinformation. This campaign takes place at several levels but the most important one is that of the Arab public which is being fed an overdose of anti-Israeli, anti-Jewish, and anti-American convoluted propaganda that became the "objectified reality" for millions of captive consumers who are not offered other views or the option of choosing between them. The infamous Egyptian TV series has now reached the stage of the blatant blood libel against the Jews suggesting "they have a plan to rule all of humanity" ("The Protocols of the Elders of Zion: "The Jew's racist plan to rule all of humanity," Itamar Marcus, Palestinian Media Watch Bulletin, November 21, 2002).

Some Arab writers maintain that airing this TV series has little to do with freedom-of-expression (one notes that it does not exist in the Arab world) and they debunk Arab arguments that they are Semites too and hence "cannot be anti-Semitic." However, the majority of the Arab press supports the airing of the defaming series as a given truth, as a right, and as a good move to bring the "word" to the viewers ("Arab Press Debates Antisemitic Egyptian Series: 'Knight Without a Horse' - Part II," MEMRI, Inquiry and Analysis - Egypt/Arab Antisemitism, November 20, 2002, No. 113; see MEMRI's synopsis of the series at the end of the article).

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Perhaps it might be helpful to examine Who are the Palestinians? (Yashiko Sagamori, National Unity Coalition, November 18, 2002, Our Jerusalem, 11/20/2002) in order to develop a better understanding to one of the greatest international frauds ever concocted. What the Palestinians and Arabs want can be best described as a child of a very large family who wants to take away the toys AND the playground of the neighbors' only child. When the police think that this is a simple feud between two children that could be resolved, it turns out that the family and other neighbors lay (unsubstantiated) claims to the toys and to the playground alike and have beaten up the kid. Even when the court later rules that the claims for the property are unfounded, those decisions are ignored and not respected. Appeasing the bullies will work only if there is a readiness to give up. The bully will not change his way with appeasement. Short of that it is imperative to do exactly the opposite ("A return to Jacksonian Zionism, "Caroline B. Glick, The Jerusalem Post, Nov. 22, 2002).
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The head of the (Palestinian) Islamic Jihad (Sheikh Assad Tamimi, author of a 1982 booklet "The Obliteration of Israel: A Koranic Imperative" - see "The Islamic Jihad: the Imperative of Holy War," A Special Report, Boaz Ganor, ICT) stated in 1990 that "The Jews have to return to the countries from which they came. We shall not accede to a Jewish state on our land, even if it is only one village." And shortly before his death, Faysal Al-Husseini gave an interview to an Egyptian newspaper where he openly admitted that the Oslo peace overture with Israel was a Trojan Horse aimed to dismantle Israel. Thus past Palestinian "peace offerings" (not to mention signed agreements) were nothing but a deception campaign. Interestingly enough, one could point out to Sheikh Tamimi that the Jews have indeed returned to the country they came from, namely, Israel.

(full article online)

With Peace Like This Who Needs War?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Conspicuously, the Swedes are totally oblivious to the fact that Human Rights pertain to all humans not just Palestinians. Ashrawi has been an advocate for and an apologist of violence through decades of her "activism" as a Palestinian "legislator" and an official of the Arab League having and had little to do with peace or with coexistence. The Palme Center and the current Swedish Foreign Minister are doing a disservice to humanity and to the cause of peace by this dubious honor. And Ashrawi? She is laughing all the way to the (west) bank.....

Ashrawi represents a group that is actively engaged in violence and for the convenience of the occasional propaganda campaign(s) she utters words like "peace" that are absolutely obsequious and mean nothing other than serving as a deceptive component in a campaign of disinformation. This campaign takes place at several levels but the most important one is that of the Arab public which is being fed an overdose of anti-Israeli, anti-Jewish, and anti-American convoluted propaganda that became the "objectified reality" for millions of captive consumers who are not offered other views or the option of choosing between them. The infamous Egyptian TV series has now reached the stage of the blatant blood libel against the Jews suggesting "they have a plan to rule all of humanity" ("The Protocols of the Elders of Zion: "The Jew's racist plan to rule all of humanity," Itamar Marcus, Palestinian Media Watch Bulletin, November 21, 2002).

Some Arab writers maintain that airing this TV series has little to do with freedom-of-expression (one notes that it does not exist in the Arab world) and they debunk Arab arguments that they are Semites too and hence "cannot be anti-Semitic." However, the majority of the Arab press supports the airing of the defaming series as a given truth, as a right, and as a good move to bring the "word" to the viewers ("Arab Press Debates Antisemitic Egyptian Series: 'Knight Without a Horse' - Part II," MEMRI, Inquiry and Analysis - Egypt/Arab Antisemitism, November 20, 2002, No. 113; see MEMRI's synopsis of the series at the end of the article).

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Perhaps it might be helpful to examine Who are the Palestinians? (Yashiko Sagamori, National Unity Coalition, November 18, 2002, Our Jerusalem, 11/20/2002) in order to develop a better understanding to one of the greatest international frauds ever concocted. What the Palestinians and Arabs want can be best described as a child of a very large family who wants to take away the toys AND the playground of the neighbors' only child. When the police think that this is a simple feud between two children that could be resolved, it turns out that the family and other neighbors lay (unsubstantiated) claims to the toys and to the playground alike and have beaten up the kid. Even when the court later rules that the claims for the property are unfounded, those decisions are ignored and not respected. Appeasing the bullies will work only if there is a readiness to give up. The bully will not change his way with appeasement. Short of that it is imperative to do exactly the opposite ("A return to Jacksonian Zionism, "Caroline B. Glick, The Jerusalem Post, Nov. 22, 2002).
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The head of the (Palestinian) Islamic Jihad (Sheikh Assad Tamimi, author of a 1982 booklet "The Obliteration of Israel: A Koranic Imperative" - see "The Islamic Jihad: the Imperative of Holy War," A Special Report, Boaz Ganor, ICT) stated in 1990 that "The Jews have to return to the countries from which they came. We shall not accede to a Jewish state on our land, even if it is only one village." And shortly before his death, Faysal Al-Husseini gave an interview to an Egyptian newspaper where he openly admitted that the Oslo peace overture with Israel was a Trojan Horse aimed to dismantle Israel. Thus past Palestinian "peace offerings" (not to mention signed agreements) were nothing but a deception campaign. Interestingly enough, one could point out to Sheikh Tamimi that the Jews have indeed returned to the country they came from, namely, Israel.

(full article online)

With Peace Like This Who Needs War?

Sour grapes post by Israeli propagandists.

Nobody worth their salt is not slimed by the criminal class.

 

[Sixties Fan]

[Somehow, Palestinians and Interpol do not go together, considering the description of what Interpol was created for]

Interpol, the world’s biggest international organization after the United Nations, enables member states to exchange intelligence and to work together to find ways to cope with international crime, from terrorism to human trafficking.

In blow to Israel, Interpol admits Palestine as full member

 

[Sixties Fan]

Which Came First – Arab Terror or the ‘Occupation’?

 

[P F Tinmore]

Which Came First – Arab Terror or the ‘Occupation’?

The occupation.

 

[Sixties Fan]

Which Came First – Arab Terror or the ‘Occupation’?

The occupation.

You are absolutely right.

First came the Arab occupation in the 7th Century, then came terror upon terror on the Jewish indigenous people of the land. How dare they not convert to Islam.

How dare they think that they can become sovereign of their own ancient homeland when it was once conquered by Arab Muslims and it must remain in any Muslim's hand.

The Arab, Muslim occupation of some part of the land of Israel is OVER !