Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

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[Sixties Fan]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Opening for the censored exhibit, "A Child's View From Gaza," in the courtyard outside of MOCHA September 24, 2011. Despite MOCHA's refusal to show the art of Palestinian children, the exhibit opened and is showing at 917 Washington St., Oakland, CA.

 

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[Sixties Fan]

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

 

[Auld Phart]

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

what does a boy dying in a swimming pool have to do with the topic?

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

what does a boy dying in a swimming pool have to do with the topic?

The answer is in what I wrote above the video.
Arabs like to call Gaza a concentration camp. What concentration camps in the world have luxurious swimming pools?

THAT, is who the Palestinians are.

 

[montelatici]

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

It demonstrates that you are using Nazi techniques to downplay the oppression of the Palestinian people of Gaza.

 

[montelatici]

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

what does a boy dying in a swimming pool have to do with the topic?

The answer is in what I wrote above the video.
Arabs like to call Gaza a concentration camp. What concentration camps in the world have luxurious swimming pools?

THAT, is who the Palestinians are.

This is what the Israelis are you disgusting piece of crap. How many swimming pools do you see you prick?

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

what does a boy dying in a swimming pool have to do with the topic?

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

what does a boy dying in a swimming pool have to do with the topic?

The article was about how the Palestinians say one thing but the reality they live in is another.

You deleted a post which did have its place on this thread. I am fine with it. Thanks.

 

[Hollie]

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

It demonstrates that you are using Nazi techniques to downplay the oppression of the Palestinian people of Gaza.

The oppression of the Arabs-Moslems in your invented "country of Pal'Istan" by the Arab-Moslem terrorists exploiting the UNRWA welfare fraud is an issue that Arabs-Moslems need to take accountability for.

 

[Hollie]

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

what does a boy dying in a swimming pool have to do with the topic?

The answer is in what I wrote above the video.
Arabs like to call Gaza a concentration camp. What concentration camps in the world have luxurious swimming pools?

THAT, is who the Palestinians are.

This is what the Israelis are you disgusting piece of crap. How many swimming pools do you see you prick?

Let that be a lesson to you Islamic terrorist Pom Pom flailers that acts of war committed by Islamic terrorists carries consequences.

So.... what's the big deal with some cracked windows and a few broken screen doors? The UNRWA welfare fraud will pay for it.

 

[rylah]

An Najada Village Profile

Location and Physical Characteristics
An Najada is a small village in the Yatta area. It is located 19 km southeast of Hebron city in the southern part of the West Bank. An Najada is bordered by the Dead Sea to the East, Arab As Saryea' (Bedouins) to the North, Yatta city lands to the West, and 1949 Armistice Line (Green Line) to the South (See map 1).

History
The history of An Najada village dates back to the Ottoman and British periods of rule, the village is related to a tribe which migrated from Najed Area in the Arabian Peninsula to Palestine and settled in the Yatta area. The village name is derived from the name of a tribe name "An Najada". For a long time two tribes were included in the locality, Al Baraqa ( ةѧالبراق (and Al Qureb .(القرب)

http://vprofile.arij.org/hebron/pdfs/An Najada_pro.pdf

 

[montelatici]

Jaffa was the largest city in historic Palestine during the years of the British mandate, with a population of more than 80,000 Palestinians in addition to the 40,000 persons living in the towns and villages in its immediate vicinity. In the period between the UN Partition resolution (UNGA 181) of 29 November 1947, and the declaration of the establishment of the State of Israel, Zionist military forces displaced 95 percent of Jaffa’s indigenous Arab Palestinian population. Jaffa’s refugees accounted for 15 percent of Palestinian refugees in that fateful year, and today they are dispersed across the globe, still banned from returning by the state responsible for their displacement.

Jaffa was the epicenter of the Palestinian economy before the 1948 Nakba. Beginning in the early 19th century, the people of Jaffa had cultivated citrus groves, particularly oranges, on their land. International demand for Jaffa oranges propelled the city onto the world stage, earning the city an important place in the global economy. By the 1930s, Jaffa was exporting tens of millions of citrus crates to the rest of the world, which provided thousands of jobs for the people of the city and its environs, and linking them to the major commercial centers of the Mediterranean coast and the European continent.

With the success of its citrus exports, the city witnessed the emergence and growth of various related economic sectors, from banks to land and sea transportation enterprises to import and export firms, and many others. As the city grew, Jaffa’s entrepreneurs began to develop local industrial production with the opening of metal-work factories, and others producing glass, ice, cigarettes, textiles, sweets, transportation-related equipment, mineral and carbonated water, and various foodstuffs, among others.

In addition to commerce and industry, a third major pillar of Jaffa’s economy in the mandate years was tourism. Tens of thousands of tourists and pilgrims visited the historic city every year, both for its sites of historical and religious significance, its beautiful buildings, and the Christian holy sites scattered throughout the city. As Jaffa’s tourism industry grew, so too did its communications infrastructure, and the transportation network connecting it to the rest of Palestine and the Arab world. More investments and jobs were also created for Jaffa’s residents through the increasing number of hotels, transportation companies, and the growing number of tourism-related services.

Jaffa was also the cultural capital of Palestine, being home to tens of the most important newspapers and publication houses in the country, including the dailies Filastin and al-Difa’. The most important and ornate cinemas were in Jaffa, as were tens of athletics clubs and cultural societies. The headquarters of some of these societies, like the Orthodox Club and the Islamic Club, have themselves become historic sites still testifying to the city’s cultural history. During the Second World War, the British Mandate authorities moved the headquarters of the Near East Radio broadcast studios to Jaffa, the studios becoming a cultural hub in the city from 1941 to 1948. With the growing cultural importance of Jaffa came increasing cultural exchange and interconnection with the main cultural centers in the region such as Cairo and Beirut, which further established the city as a cultural minaret in the region — lovingly dubbed the Bride of the Sea.

The story of Jaffa’s ongoing Nakba is the story of the transformation of this thriving modern urban center into a marginalized neighborhood suffering from poverty, discrimination, gentrification, crime and demolition since the initial wave of mass expulsion in 1948 to the present day.

 

[montelatici]

An Najada Village Profile

Location and Physical Characteristics
An Najada is a small village in the Yatta area. It is located 19 km southeast of Hebron city in the southern part of the West Bank. An Najada is bordered by the Dead Sea to the East, Arab As Saryea' (Bedouins) to the North, Yatta city lands to the West, and 1949 Armistice Line (Green Line) to the South (See map 1).

History
The history of An Najada village dates back to the Ottoman and British periods of rule, the village is related to a tribe which migrated from Najed Area in the Arabian Peninsula to Palestine and settled in the Yatta area. The village name is derived from the name of a tribe name "An Najada". For a long time two tribes were included in the locality, Al Baraqa ( ةѧالبراق (and Al Qureb .(القرب)

http://vprofile.arij.org/hebron/pdfs/An Najada_pro.pdf

Still with the propaganda. Do you think anyone believes your propaganda.

 

[P F Tinmore]

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

It demonstrates that you are using Nazi techniques to downplay the oppression of the Palestinian people of Gaza.

The oppression of the Arabs-Moslems in your invented "country of Pal'Istan" by the Arab-Moslem terrorists exploiting the UNRWA welfare fraud is an issue that Arabs-Moslems need to take accountability for.

in your invented "country of Pal'Istan"

Link?

 

[rylah]

An Najada Village Profile

Location and Physical Characteristics
An Najada is a small village in the Yatta area. It is located 19 km southeast of Hebron city in the southern part of the West Bank. An Najada is bordered by the Dead Sea to the East, Arab As Saryea' (Bedouins) to the North, Yatta city lands to the West, and 1949 Armistice Line (Green Line) to the South (See map 1).

History
The history of An Najada village dates back to the Ottoman and British periods of rule, the village is related to a tribe which migrated from Najed Area in the Arabian Peninsula to Palestine and settled in the Yatta area. The village name is derived from the name of a tribe name "An Najada". For a long time two tribes were included in the locality, Al Baraqa ( ةѧالبراق (and Al Qureb .(القرب)

http://vprofile.arij.org/hebron/pdfs/An Najada_pro.pdf

Still with the propaganda. Do you think anyone believes your propaganda.

Just according to the Palestinian Institute:
The Applied Research Institute Jerusalem - الصفحة الرئيسية


Beit Mirsim Village Profile

Location and Physical Characteristics
Beit Mirsim is a village in the Dura area which is located 30 kilometers southwest of the city of Hebron in the southern part of West Bank. It is bordered by Beit ar Rush al Fauqa to the east and north, and Al Burj and the Segregation Wall to the west, and the south (See Map 1).

History
The name Beit Mirsim derives from the Canaanite word “Qarya Safar” and “Beir sefer” which means an educational city. The village has also had another two names in past, these were: Beit Sena, (which means Palm Branch), and ‘Dbeer’. The history of the village dates back to ancient Arab tribes who migrated from the Arabian Peninsula and settled in the land of Palestine, most of the families settled in the village during the Islamic and Ottoman period, and this can be proved by the ‘Place of Handal’ (a building similar to a mosque). Similarly some of the inhabitants of the village are also descendents of people expelled from Israel in 1949 (predominately from Mrat and Al Za’aq villages).

http://vprofile.arij.org/hebron/pdfs/Beit Mirsim_pr_en.pdf

 

[Sixties Fan]

[Historic Palestine? Does the Hebrew Scriptures, Egypt and others refer to that area or city as Historical Palestine? And no reference in 5000 years to any Palestinians. Why? Odd how one mentions Jaffa since the British Mandate, but how about before that? ]

Bronze Age[edit]
Further information: The Taking of Joppa
The natural harbour of Jaffa has been in use since the Bronze Age.

Jaffa is mentioned in an Ancient Egyptian letter from 1440 BCE, glorifying its conquest by Pharaoh Thutmose III, whose general, Djehuty hid armed Egyptian warriors in large baskets and sent the baskets as a present to the Canaanite city's governor.

The city is also mentioned in the Amarna letters under its Egyptian name Ya-Pho, ( Ya-Pu, EA 296, l.33). The city was under Egyptian rule until around 800 BCE.

Iron Age[edit]
Jaffa is mentioned four times in the Hebrew Bible, as a city opposite the territory given to the Hebrew Tribe of Dan (Book of Joshua 19:46), as port-of-entry for the cedars of Lebanon for Solomon's Temple (2 Chronicles 2:16), as the place whence the prophet Jonah embarked for Tarshish (Book of Jonah 1:3) and again as port-of-entry for the cedars of Lebanon for the Second Temple of Jerusalem (Book of Ezra 3:7). Jaffa is mentioned in the Book of Joshua as the territorial border of the Tribe of Dan, hence the modern term "Gush Dan" for the center of the coastal plain. The tribe of Dan did not manage to dislocate the Philistines from Jaffa, but many descendants of Dan lived along the coast and earned their living from shipmaking and sailing. In the "Song of Deborah" the prophetess asks: "דן למה יגור אוניות": "Why doth Dan dwell in ships?"[4]

After Canaanite and Philistine dominion, King David and his son King Solomon conquered Jaffa and used its port to bring the cedars used in the construction of the First Temple from Tyre.
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[Muslim time]

Saladin conquered Jaffa in 1187. The city surrendered to King Richard the Lionheart on 10 September 1191, three days after the Battle of Arsuf. Despite efforts by Saladin to reoccupy the city in July 1192 (Battle of Jaffa) the city remained in the hands of the Crusaders. On 2 September 1192, the Treaty of Jaffa was formally signed, guaranteeing a three-year truce between the two armies. Frederick II fortified the castle of Jaffa and had two inscriptions carved into city wall, one Latin and the other Arabic. The inscription, deciphered in 2011, describes him as the "Holy Roman Emperor" and bears the date "1229 of the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus the Messiah."[9] In 1268, Jaffa was conquered by Egyptian Mamluks, led by Baibars.


Jaffa in the early 17th century
The traveller Jean Cotwyk (Cotovicus) described Jaffa as a heap of ruins when he visited in 1598.[10][11]

(full article online)

Jaffa - Wikipedia

 

[Hollie]

Jaffa was the largest city in historic Palestine during the years of the British mandate, with a population of more than 80,000 Palestinians in addition to the 40,000 persons living in the towns and villages in its immediate vicinity. In the period between the UN Partition resolution (UNGA 181) of 29 November 1947, and the declaration of the establishment of the State of Israel, Zionist military forces displaced 95 percent of Jaffa’s indigenous Arab Palestinian population. Jaffa’s refugees accounted for 15 percent of Palestinian refugees in that fateful year, and today they are dispersed across the globe, still banned from returning by the state responsible for their displacement.

Jaffa was the epicenter of the Palestinian economy before the 1948 Nakba. Beginning in the early 19th century, the people of Jaffa had cultivated citrus groves, particularly oranges, on their land. International demand for Jaffa oranges propelled the city onto the world stage, earning the city an important place in the global economy. By the 1930s, Jaffa was exporting tens of millions of citrus crates to the rest of the world, which provided thousands of jobs for the people of the city and its environs, and linking them to the major commercial centers of the Mediterranean coast and the European continent.

With the success of its citrus exports, the city witnessed the emergence and growth of various related economic sectors, from banks to land and sea transportation enterprises to import and export firms, and many others. As the city grew, Jaffa’s entrepreneurs began to develop local industrial production with the opening of metal-work factories, and others producing glass, ice, cigarettes, textiles, sweets, transportation-related equipment, mineral and carbonated water, and various foodstuffs, among others.

In addition to commerce and industry, a third major pillar of Jaffa’s economy in the mandate years was tourism. Tens of thousands of tourists and pilgrims visited the historic city every year, both for its sites of historical and religious significance, its beautiful buildings, and the Christian holy sites scattered throughout the city. As Jaffa’s tourism industry grew, so too did its communications infrastructure, and the transportation network connecting it to the rest of Palestine and the Arab world. More investments and jobs were also created for Jaffa’s residents through the increasing number of hotels, transportation companies, and the growing number of tourism-related services.

Jaffa was also the cultural capital of Palestine, being home to tens of the most important newspapers and publication houses in the country, including the dailies Filastin and al-Difa’. The most important and ornate cinemas were in Jaffa, as were tens of athletics clubs and cultural societies. The headquarters of some of these societies, like the Orthodox Club and the Islamic Club, have themselves become historic sites still testifying to the city’s cultural history. During the Second World War, the British Mandate authorities moved the headquarters of the Near East Radio broadcast studios to Jaffa, the studios becoming a cultural hub in the city from 1941 to 1948. With the growing cultural importance of Jaffa came increasing cultural exchange and interconnection with the main cultural centers in the region such as Cairo and Beirut, which further established the city as a cultural minaret in the region — lovingly dubbed the Bride of the Sea.

The story of Jaffa’s ongoing Nakba is the story of the transformation of this thriving modern urban center into a marginalized neighborhood suffering from poverty, discrimination, gentrification, crime and demolition since the initial wave of mass expulsion in 1948 to the present day.

I think The Monty needs to be reminded that cutting and pasting articles implies that those articles be properly attributed.

The Electronic Gee-had?

Jaffa: from eminence to ethnic cleansing

 

[Hollie]

[ A concentration camp with swimming pools? ]

A 5-year old boy drowned in the Gaza Strip in a swimming pool on Saturday.

In other news, Gaza has lots of swimming pools.

Here are some that are in Gaza City itself all from a Facebook page of Gaza City swimming pools.

(full article online)

In other news, Gaza has swimming pools ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

"How utterly braindead, ignorant or devious one must be to even think about using the Auschwitz swimming pool as a PR trick in the name of "revisionism"?"

Holocaust Controversies: The dumbest Holocaust denial icon: the Auschwitz swimming pool

What does your link have to do with the subject of this thread?
This is not the Holocaust denier thread

It demonstrates that you are using Nazi techniques to downplay the oppression of the Palestinian people of Gaza.

The oppression of the Arabs-Moslems in your invented "country of Pal'Istan" by the Arab-Moslem terrorists exploiting the UNRWA welfare fraud is an issue that Arabs-Moslems need to take accountability for.

in your invented "country of Pal'Istan"

Link?

Yes, link?