Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

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Does that mean that the natives became different people?

No. Arabs occupying Turkish territory were still occupiers.

 

[RoccoR]

RE: Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2
SUBTOPIC:
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

The Comment of Posting #22218 (supra) is a "Red Herring" intended to mislead the intent of the commentary.

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enemy, enemy character The term ‘enemy’, connoting an adversary in war, is so far a

term of international law that it is employed incidentally in the U.N. Charter: arts. 77 and 107. It applies principally to a State. But in prize law, and equally in municipal law in regard to deprivation of liberty on grounds of public safety and to the repression of trade or intercourse with the enemy State, as well as in the context of such rules as that of English common law that an individual alien enemy cannot sue, enemy character is ascribed also to individuals, to bodies corporate and unincorporate, and to vessels and cargoes or goods. There are, however, no generally agreed rules of international law as to what constitutes enemy character in these extended senses.​

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Parry & Grant encyclopaedic dictionary of international law, © 2009 by Oxford University Press, Inc. by John P. Grant and J. Craig Barker. -- 3rd ed. pg 182

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◈ Article 77 of the UN Charter is found in Chapter XII International Trusteeship. The article deals specifically to the application and Article 77(1)(1) specifically applies to: "territories now held under mandate."​

◈ Article 107 Outlines: Nothing in the present Charter shall invalidate or preclude action, in relation to any state which during the Second World War has been an enemy of any signatory to the present Charter, taken or authorized as a result of that war by the Governments having responsibility for such action.​

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This is not an ad Hominem attack on the Arab Palestinian people. It is simply a statement of fact. They were on the wrong side (the Central Powers) of the war (won by the Allied Powers).

Does that mean that the natives became different people?

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Just as the term "criminal" does not change the person or the state, nor does the term "Enemy and Enemy Character change the person or the people. It is about what they did or do → NOT who they are.

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This is an example of the Arab Palestinian trying to mislead the audience by casting a shadow over a perspective of the ground truth.

Most Respectfully,
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[ Ramadan becomes a time to kill Jews and "liberate Palestine". ]

 

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Israel's Bennett is not going to allow the pally gee-had to continue taking Israeli lives. Unless his words are mere bluster, I would expect to see some proactive anti gee-had measures being implemented which might include operations to dismantle Islamic terrorist attacks still in the planning stages.

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i24 News – Israel’s premier on Friday gave security agencies “full freedom” of operation to curb the surge of Palestinian terrorism, after the latest deadly attack saw a gunman kill three men in a popular nightlife spot in Tel Aviv.


“There are not and will not be limits for this war,” Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said, speaking hours after security forces killed the Palestinian assailant following a 10-hour manhunt.

“We are granting full freedom of action to the army, the Shin Bet (the domestic security agency) and all security forces in order to defeat the terror,” he added.


The officers found the shooter hiding near a mosque in Jaffa, just south of Tel Aviv, Israel’s Shin Bet security agency said. During an exchange of fire the terrorist was killed.

 

[Hollie]

Yes, the ''founding fathers'' of a virulently hateful and sociopathic Islamic terrorist franchise.

While Fatah is sometimes referred to as ''secular'' when compared to competing islamic terrorist organizations, Fatah justifies armed conflict with Israel on Islamic politico-religious terms. The inventor of ''pal'istanians''; Yasser Arafat, made that clear during an islamo-tirade at the Mayfair Mosque in Johannesburg on May 11, 1994.

Arafat's Grand Strategy

For Yasir Arafat and the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) leadership, the Oslo process has always been a strategic means not to a two-state solution—Israel and a Palestinian state in the West Bank and Gaza—but to the substitution of a Palestinian

www.meforum.org

O my beloved ones, do not forget that our Palestine National Council accepted the decision in 1974. It called for the establishment of a national authority on any part of Palestinian land that is liberated or from which the Israelis withdrew. This is the fruit of your struggle, your sacrifices, and your jihad … This is the moment of return, the moment of gaining a foothold on the first liberated Palestinian land … Long live Palestine, liberated and Arab.

Fatah officials still revere founding terrorists â who look down from the walls of Fatah branch offices | PMW Analysis

In addition to the terrorists, the Jericho and Jordan Valley office also exhibited this PA map of “Palestine” (left, in green) that presents all of Israel together with the PA areas as “Palestine,”

palwatch.org

Fatah officials still revere founding terrorists – who look down from the walls of Fatah branch offices​

Nan Jacques Zilberdik | Apr 8, 2022

Visits by Fatah Central Committee Deputy Secretary Sabri Saidam to the Movement’s Jericho and Jordan Valley branch office and Hebron branch office illustrate that Fatah today still reveres the principles of its terrorist founders, who look down at today’s Fatah leaders from the office walls.

 

[Hollie]

What else would anyone expect?

Just a continuation of 1,400 years of a belligerent, caustic politico-religious ideology

Palestinian rioters vandalize Joseph's Tomb amid clashes with IDF

Gantz calls vandalism ‘a grave event and a serious violation of freedom of worship in one of the holiest places for every Jew’

www.jpost.com

Palestinian rioters vandalized Joseph’s Tomb in the West Bank city of Nablus on Saturday night amid clashes with the IDF, damaging the gravestone, a chandelier hanging above it, a water tank and an electricity closet.


The vandalism comes amid the second night of arrest raids made by Israeli security forces in the West Bank, following a fatal terror attack on Thursday night in Tel Aviv that claimed three lives.

 

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These are the genetic Arabs who call themselves "Palestinians" ... a Roman name.

World Is Silent as Palestinian Rioters Torch Joseph's Tomb

Palestinian rioters vandalized Joseph's Tomb, one of Judaism's holiest sites, setting it on fire and smashing the gravestone.

www.breitbart.com

The only way for this to reach mainstream news is when Israel retaliates...

...and one thing is certain, the pals can't spin Yosef ben-Yaacov as a settler who provoked this violence.

 

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[ The culture of Their Own Lives Do Not Matter ]

A Palestinian woman was shot dead by Israeli officers Sunday after trying to stab them at a checkpoint near the Tomb of the Patriarchs in Hebron, police said.

The Palestinian Authority Health Ministry later identified the alleged stabber as 24-year-old Maha Kazim al-Zaatry, a resident of Hebron.

The incident comes hours after an unarmed Palestinian woman was shot dead by Israeli soldiers after she ran toward them in the West Bank town of Husan.

(full article online)

Palestinian woman stabs Israeli officer in Hebron, is shot dead

Officials say border guard, slightly hurt in attack, manages to fire back; incident comes hours after another Palestinian woman was shot dead in West Bank

www.timesofisrael.com

 

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There should be no misunderstanding. The current terror wave in which 4 terrorists have murdered 14 people in terror attacks in Israel – the latest of which took place in the heart of Tel Aviv on Thursday - was initiated and is being fueled by the PA and PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas’ Fatah party. In order to ignite and perpetuate the terror wave the PA and Fatah are using all their usual methods: Implicit and direct calls for violence; demonization of Israel and Israelis; invoking the false claim that Israel/Israelis are planning to destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque; attacking Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid for walking in Jerusalem; and repeating other sundry libels.

As Palestinian Media Watch has already exposed, in the run up to the Muslim month of Ramadan, the PA intensified its false rhetoric that Israel was seeking to escalate violence and destroy the Al-Aqsa Mosque. Those calls were then used as a means to create hatred and recruit the Palestinians to conduct terror attacks.

Speaking on the first day of Ramadan, PA Supreme Shari’ah Judge Mahmoud Al-Habbash, made the PA expectations of the Palestinians perfectly clear: In the same way as Muslim Prophet Muhammad engaged in war during Ramadan, so too the Palestinians should engage in “Jihad.” Explaining how Muhammad embarked on the Battle of Badr and conquered Mecca during Ramadan, Al-Habbash clarified that Ramadan is “is not a month of laziness but rather … a month of Jihad, conquest, and victory.”

(full article online)

The PA/Fatah initiated and fueled terror wave | PMW Analysis

Abbas’ advisor teaches Palestinians: “Ramadan is… not a month of laziness but rather … a month of Jihad, conquest, and victory”

palwatch.org

 

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Samir Saadi, deputy mayor of Nazareth, wrote a letter of condolence to his relatives Saturday evening on the death of terrorist Ahmad al-Saadi, a Palestinian Islamic Jihad who was killed that morning in Jenin in an exchange of fire with Israeli security forces, N12 and Kan News reported.

“Our condolences to the cousins in the Jenin camp. I ask Allah to receive him with the martyrs, the righteous and the good friends. “I ask Allah to heal all the wounded,” he posted on Facebook.

(full article online)

Deputy mayor of Nazareth sends condolences to terrorist's family - his cousins | World Israel News

The official deleted the post shortly after it gained the attention of Israelis, who called for his arrest.

worldisraelnews.com

 

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Palestinian media is saying that a young man killed by Israel on Sunday night, Mohammad Ali Ghneim, was a soccer player for the Al-Khader club in Bethlehem.

They are saying that "this crime comes as a continuation of the crimes of the Israeli occupation against Palestinian sports that have been killing their players and destroying their facilities for years, in violation of the international standards and laws of the International Football Association FIFA."

What exactly happened? Times of Israel reports:

According to the Israeli army, soldiers who were carrying out an ambush near al-Khader identified a person throwing firebombs at an Israeli vehicle on the road that links the Etzion Bloc of settlements with Jerusalem.
“The soldiers shot at the suspect. A hit was identified,” the Israeli military said, adding that the firebombs endangered the occupants of the vehicle.

A Palestinian quoted in the article says that Ghneim was too far away to have thrown any firebombs. But other Palestinian media say that he was killed while "confronting Zionist forces."

Ghneim was also a former prisoner, meaning that he had participated in terror activities in the past.

The crowd outside his house after his death, carrying his body, don't look like they are mourning. They act like he was a military hero.



Put it all together, and - as in virtually all cases - the IDF version of events is much more plausible than that of Palestinians.

(full article online)

"Israel killed a soccer player!" (Oh, he was also a terrorist.)

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Over the years, most public opinion polls of Palestinians ask, in the abstract, whether they support "armed struggle," the euphemism for terror attacks. The support levels for that abstract question always hovers around 50%. That is really bad. But it doesn't reflect the real opinions that Palestinians have towards terror.

Because over the years, when they have been asked about specific attacks that targeted Jews, their level of support doesn't diminish - it almost invariably skyrockets.

In 2003, 75% supported the Maxim restaurant suicide bombing in Haifa that murdered 21 including four children.

In 2008, 84% supported the Mercaz HaRav massacre,killing 8 including 4 children.

In 2009, 71% of Palestinians said naming a soccer championship after the suicide bomber who murdered 30 Israelis at the Passover seder in the Park Hotel was a "good thing."

In 2015, 67% supported stabbing attacks against Jews during the "knife intifada."

61% of Palestinians supported the murder of 17-year old Rina Shnerb in 2019.

Last year, 72% of Palestinians believed that the thousands of Gaza rockets fired towards Israeli communities were "in defense of Jerusalem" and 68% said they would support launching rockets at Jewish communities in Israel in retaliation if residents of Sheikh Jarrah were evicted.

Not in defense. The vast majority support targeting random Jews in revenge.

The polls about the current wave of attacks against Jews within the Green Line have not been released yet, but the public support for the attacks has been loud and strong, with pro-terror rallies in Jenin and elsewhere. You cannot find a single Palestinian op-ed that condemns, or even mildly criticizes, any of the recent attacks. Empathy towards Jewish victims of terror is literally nonexistent in Palestinian media.

Have you ever seen a Palestinian rally against murdering Jews?

Just today, Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas re-affirmed that payments to terrorists and their families are a top priority, saying, "What we are doing is our duty towards the orphans of martyrs and the prisoners and their families, who need all our help."

There is no exaggeration necessary. Palestinians really do enthusiastically and overwhelmingly support the murder of Jewish civilians. It is a consistent pattern over 20 years of polling.

That is the fundamental fact that the media refuses to report. They will say that "both sides" have "extremists." They will find an Israeli Jew who supports Baruch Goldstein and pretend that he represents a large constituency. They will report on the few hotheads who really do attack Palestinian farmers and give the impression that they are what most "settlers" are like.

The media invariably exaggerate Israeli extremists - and minimize the Palestinian mainstream support of murdering Jews.

There is no comparison, and pretending that there is a parity there is itself justification for Palestinian depravity.

Almost alone among world conflicts, the vast majority of Palestinians really do actively support the most heinous crimes. And while no one will justify child sex abuse or neo-Nazis, there are plenty of people who openly justify the Palestinian bloodlust of murdering Jews.


(full article online)

With Palestinians, there is no need to exaggerate: they really support murdering random Jews

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