Who are the Israelis?

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We have a Who are the Palestinians thread, so just to be fair...

Golda Meir


Thats a good question and ill give my opnion .
They are a religious ethnic group of people who want to live in the lands that the british empire and the world gave them. Sadly the majority of the muslim community hate them
 
RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ Aponi, P F Tinmore, et al,

Just to be fair, there are many different ways to view the Arab Palestinians.

We have a Who are the Palestinians thread, so just to be fair...
Golda Meir

Thats a good question and ill give my opnion .
They are a religious ethnic group of people who want to live in the lands that the british empire and the world gave them. Sadly the majority of the muslim community hate them

(COMMENT)

Even Arab Palestinians really don't have a commonly shared definition of themselves. The outside observers see them as a people of contradictions.

On the other hand, the Israelis are confident in who they are and where they stand on most issues.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ Aponi, P F Tinmore, et al,

Just to be fair, there are many different ways to view the Arab Palestinians.

We have a Who are the Palestinians thread, so just to be fair...
Golda Meir

Thats a good question and ill give my opnion .
They are a religious ethnic group of people who want to live in the lands that the british empire and the world gave them. Sadly the majority of the muslim community hate them

(COMMENT)

Even Arab Palestinians really don't have a commonly shared definition of themselves. The outside observers see them as a people of contradictions.

On the other hand, the Israelis are confident in who they are and where they stand on most issues.

Most Respectfully,
R

Irrelevant post. Do the people in the US have a commonly shared definition of themselves?
 
RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.

Irrelevant post. Do the people in the US have a commonly shared definition of themselves?
(COMMENT)

But I take "Surveys" online quite a bit (generally one day). And they are able to ask the question:

The first question can be a simple Yes/No radio button; the second should include these commonly accepted options:
  • American Indian or Alaska Native
  • Asian
  • Black or African American
  • Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
  • White
  • Other
So we also are able to fit ourselves into nice neat little sub-categories of American. The same can be said for the Age, Education, and Marital Status.

The Israels can also do the same with their Demographic data collection. And the same can be done in surveys concerning policies and politics.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.

Irrelevant post. Do the people in the US have a commonly shared definition of themselves?
(COMMENT)

But I take "Surveys" online quite a bit (generally one day). And they are able to ask the question:

The first question can be a simple Yes/No radio button; the second should include these commonly accepted options:
  • American Indian or Alaska Native
  • Asian
  • Black or African American
  • Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
  • White
  • Other
So we also are able to fit ourselves into nice neat little sub-categories of American. The same can be said for the Age, Education, and Marital Status.

The Israels can also do the same with their Demographic data collection. And the same can be done in surveys concerning policies and politics.

Most Respectfully,
R
We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.
And they are all Palestinians. They all share that.
 
RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.

Irrelevant post. Do the people in the US have a commonly shared definition of themselves?
(COMMENT)

But I take "Surveys" online quite a bit (generally one day). And they are able to ask the question:

The first question can be a simple Yes/No radio button; the second should include these commonly accepted options:
  • American Indian or Alaska Native
  • Asian
  • Black or African American
  • Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
  • White
  • Other
So we also are able to fit ourselves into nice neat little sub-categories of American. The same can be said for the Age, Education, and Marital Status.

The Israels can also do the same with their Demographic data collection. And the same can be done in surveys concerning policies and politics.

Most Respectfully,
R
We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.
And they are all Palestinians. They all share that.

Actually, no. Both Islamic terrorist franchises of Hamas and Islamic gee-had have alliances with Iran.
 
RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians (West Bank and Gaza Strip inhabitance as a collective) seem to be picking up their own individual identity.

In the beginning, we generally referred to the violence in the Middle East as the "the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1946." The conflict has irreparably harmed the regional Arab constituency

The Forward in the Blue Book - The Question of Palestine and the United Nations said:
A comprehensive database with full-text documentation of the role of the United Nations system and other international and non-governmental organizations relevant to the Question of Palestine and the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1946 is available, with a directory of linked sites, at UNISPAL-United Nations Information System on the Question of Palestine.
SOURCE: [link] Last Sentence from the Forward of The Question of Palestine and the United Nations

◈ And it was not all that uncommon as to refer to the people as: "Arab inhabitants of Palestine"

◈ And it was generally referred to (in theat same time frame) as: The Jewish case was presented by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, while the Arab Higher Committee spoke for the Palestinian Arabs.​

We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.
And they are all Palestinians. They all share that.
(COMMENT)

As an outside observer, I am beginning to see a distinction being made between the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" seeing themselves as:

◈ Arab Palestinians (AKA: Arab Palestinian)
.................................AND
◈ Palestinians (meaning the people of the West Bank) or Gazans (meaning the people of the Gaza Strip)

I say this → only because, at a distance, it would appear that the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" is beginning to leave behind the association of "Arab" and adopting their own identity: "Palestinian" and "Gazan." → This is not so dissimilar, yet not quite the same as the nomadic Bedouin (Bedu) that see themselves as a desert people more than they do as Arabs. And the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" are in bed with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (of the Islamic Republic) which drives yet the wedge further between the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" and the community of "Arabs."

Most Respectfully,
R
 
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RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.

Irrelevant post. Do the people in the US have a commonly shared definition of themselves?
(COMMENT)

But I take "Surveys" online quite a bit (generally one day). And they are able to ask the question:

The first question can be a simple Yes/No radio button; the second should include these commonly accepted options:
  • American Indian or Alaska Native
  • Asian
  • Black or African American
  • Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
  • White
  • Other
So we also are able to fit ourselves into nice neat little sub-categories of American. The same can be said for the Age, Education, and Marital Status.

The Israels can also do the same with their Demographic data collection. And the same can be done in surveys concerning policies and politics.

Most Respectfully,
R
We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.
And they are all Palestinians. They all share that.

Actually, no. Both Islamic terrorist franchises of Hamas and Islamic gee-had have alliances with Iran.
So?
 
RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians (West Bank and Gaza Strip inhabitance as a collective) seem to be picking up their own individual identity.

In the beginning, we generally referred to the violence in the Middle East as the "the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1946." The conflict has irreparably harmed the regional Arab constituency

The Forward in the Blue Book - The Question of Palestine and the United Nations said:
A comprehensive database with full-text documentation of the role of the United Nations system and other international and non-governmental organizations relevant to the Question of Palestine and the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1946 is available, with a directory of linked sites, at UNISPAL-United Nations Information System on the Question of Palestine.
SOURCE: [link] Last Sentence from the Forward of The Question of Palestine and the United Nations

◈ And it was not all that uncommon as to refer to the people as: "Arab inhabitants of Palestine"

◈ And it was generally referred to (in theat same time frame) as: The Jewish case was presented by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, while the Arab Higher Committee spoke for the Palestinian Arabs.​

We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.
And they are all Palestinians. They all share that.
(COMMENT)

As an outside observer, I am beginning to see a distinction being made between the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" seeing themselves as:

◈ Arab Palestinians (AKA: Arab Palestinian)
.................................AND
◈ Palestinians (meaning the people of the West Bank) or Gazans (meaning the people of the Gaza Strip)

I say this → only because, at a distance, it would appear that the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" is beginning to leave behind the association of "Arab" and adopting their own identity: "Palestinian" and "Gazan." → This is not so dissimilar, yet not quite the same as the nomadic Bedouin (Bedu) that see themselves as a desert people more than they do as Arabs. And the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" are in bed with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (of the Islamic Republic) which drives yet the wedge further between the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" and the community of "Arabs."

Most Respectfully,
R
A rose by any other name...
 
RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.

Irrelevant post. Do the people in the US have a commonly shared definition of themselves?
(COMMENT)

But I take "Surveys" online quite a bit (generally one day). And they are able to ask the question:

The first question can be a simple Yes/No radio button; the second should include these commonly accepted options:
  • American Indian or Alaska Native
  • Asian
  • Black or African American
  • Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
  • White
  • Other
So we also are able to fit ourselves into nice neat little sub-categories of American. The same can be said for the Age, Education, and Marital Status.

The Israels can also do the same with their Demographic data collection. And the same can be done in surveys concerning policies and politics.

Most Respectfully,
R
We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.
And they are all Palestinians. They all share that.

Actually, no. Both Islamic terrorist franchises of Hamas and Islamic gee-had have alliances with Iran.
So?

Such impressive concision.

The invention of “Pal’istanian” has much much to do with Pan-Arab’ism than it is a colloquial, regional term. The PLO charter identifies the regional Arabs as little more than a part of “Arab’ism” as a politico-religious ideology.

My clear impression is that the mini-caliphates of Gaza’istan and the West Bank are much less “Pal’istanian” (even as viewed by the Arab-Moslem world), and more as proxies of Iran to be used as regional flails against Israel.

It’s interesting to note that alliances are solely shifting, Arabs have an interest in, at the very least, not completely alienating Israel as Iran is seen by the Sunni Arabs as a looming threat.

The treatment of those calling themselves “Pal’istanian”, as demonstrated by neighboring nations to include Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, etc., should give even someone like you a clue as to the indifference for “Pal’istanians” held by Arabs-Moslems in the region.
 
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RE: Who are the Israelis?
⁜→ P F Tinmore, et al,

BLUF: The Arab Palestinians (West Bank and Gaza Strip inhabitance as a collective) seem to be picking up their own individual identity.

In the beginning, we generally referred to the violence in the Middle East as the "the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1946." The conflict has irreparably harmed the regional Arab constituency

The Forward in the Blue Book - The Question of Palestine and the United Nations said:
A comprehensive database with full-text documentation of the role of the United Nations system and other international and non-governmental organizations relevant to the Question of Palestine and the Arab-Israeli conflict since 1946 is available, with a directory of linked sites, at UNISPAL-United Nations Information System on the Question of Palestine.
SOURCE: [link] Last Sentence from the Forward of The Question of Palestine and the United Nations

◈ And it was not all that uncommon as to refer to the people as: "Arab inhabitants of Palestine"

◈ And it was generally referred to (in theat same time frame) as: The Jewish case was presented by the Jewish Agency for Palestine, while the Arab Higher Committee spoke for the Palestinian Arabs.​

We are "American!" And in that sense, we all share that.
And they are all Palestinians. They all share that.
(COMMENT)

As an outside observer, I am beginning to see a distinction being made between the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" seeing themselves as:

◈ Arab Palestinians (AKA: Arab Palestinian)
.................................AND
◈ Palestinians (meaning the people of the West Bank) or Gazans (meaning the people of the Gaza Strip)

I say this → only because, at a distance, it would appear that the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" is beginning to leave behind the association of "Arab" and adopting their own identity: "Palestinian" and "Gazan." → This is not so dissimilar, yet not quite the same as the nomadic Bedouin (Bedu) that see themselves as a desert people more than they do as Arabs. And the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" are in bed with the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps (of the Islamic Republic) which drives yet the wedge further between the "Arab inhabitants of Palestine" and the community of "Arabs."

Most Respectfully,
R
A rose by any other name...

You meant to write, “an islsmic terrorist by any other name”.
 
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Two Binyamins - Yediot Elections Poll

Benny Gantz heads the largest party, but the initial excitement seems to have dissipated - and the gap in mandates vis-à-vis the Likud is narrowing. Netanyahu still has the greatest chance of forming a government. A dramatic struggle between several lists to cross the minimum threshold:
Moshe Feiglin's "Zehut" scrapes the electoral threshold and threatens to shake the balance between the blocs • Month for elections: political situation


The lists were closed, the reunions were completed, and the election campaign is entering the last stage - and decisive. Next stop: the ballot box. Exactly a month for the voter's day, it seems that the balance of power between the right-wing and left-center blocs, as well as those who are leading them - Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Benny Gantz - is closer than ever. This means that the difficult and probably ugly battle over the floating votes will reach its peak in the coming weeks.

A new poll by Yedioth Ahronoth, conducted by the Minaam Institute and run by Mina Tzemach and Mano Geva, shows a clear trend: the battle between Blue and White and the Likud is more closely linked, and there is actually a tie between the blocs. Although Benny Gantz heads the largest party, Netanyahu still has the best chance of forming a government.

At the bottom there is a drama: while Moshe Feiglin is scratching the threshold, the lists of Orly Levi-Abaksis (Gesher) and Eli Yishai (Yahad) find it difficult to enter the Knesset at this stage.

In response to the question of whether the elections would have taken place today, for what list would you vote, Ganz-Lapid's blue and white continues to lead with 33 mandates. The Likud wins only 29 seats. However, this is a weakening of Blue and White, which in an identical poll conducted two weeks ago reached 35 seats. In third place was Labor, which rose to 10 in the Knesset. In the other lists, there is almost no significant change in the number of mandates in relation to the last poll: United Torah Judaism 7, Hadash-Ta'al 7, Shas 6, Right-wing Union 6, Meretz 5, New Right 5, Yisrael Beitenu 4 and Kulanu 4. Ra'am-Balad Party, which was disqualified last week by the Central Elections Committee - a decision that has yet to receive the approval of the High Court of Justice and is liable to overturn in the coming days - receives four Knesset seats.

A dramatic struggle over attempts to overcome the 3.2% threshold. According to the survey, the Zehut party is approaching it with 3.1%, while Gesher (2%) and together (1%) do not pass. The battle at the bottom is closer than ever: Feiglin got 3.1% compared with the parties of all of us, Meretz and Yisrael Beiteinu, which are around 3.5% of the vote and barely passed the threshold.

Among the blocs there is a draw: the right-wing bloc is 61 seats, compared to the center-left bloc and the Arabs, which receives 59 Knesset seats.

Netanyahu continues to lead, respectively, to the premiership: On the question "Of the following personal ones, whom do you prefer as prime minister," he receives 38% support, compared with 31% for Ganz (the remaining 31% said no or does not know). In the previous poll Netanyahu and Gantz were more popular: 40% for Netanyahu and 34% for Ganz. The majority of voters also believe that Netanyahu will form the next government: 53% believe that Netanyahu will continue in the position, compared with 27% who believe that Gantz will replace him - a significant gap of 26%. However, the gap narrowed two weeks ago, with 59% voting for Netanyahu and only 23% for Gantz as the next government.

The survey was conducted between March 7 and 8, among 510 respondents in a representative sample of the total population aged 18 and over. Sampling error: 4.4%.

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Yediot Ahronot - Elections poll
 
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Brig. Gen. Ret. Ram Shmueli, Candidate for Knesset with the Kulanu Party

 

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