Who are the Debtor and Creditor Parties of a Federal Reserve Promissory Note?

[Toddsterpatriot]

And the Colonel, with 'is wee beady eyes..........

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Pass what are you talking about ?

You're unfamiliar with the Pentaverate?

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It barely rang a bell, so I looked it up and I’ve already studied all that elsewhere but I can’t remember that word for some reason.

You've studied the Pentaverate?

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NO ! I said I’ve studied everything else about that same subject but I do not remember that word for some reason.

 

[Natural Citizen]

You're complaining about a supposed 98% decline in value.
So let's talk about the decline from 1913-1933.
The decline from 1913-1971.
The decline from 1971-today.

I outlined the entire monetary policy step by step. I can't do any better than that, Toddster.

We're 21 trillion in debt. The dollar is down 98% since 1913. My facts explain precisely why. And they cannot be contested because they are, indeed, facts.

I win. Well, unless you can magically make us believe none of it ever happened by bringing the dollar up to 1912 value, restoring our purchasing power, and making the 21 trillion go away.

It's the monetary policy, stupid.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You're complaining about a supposed 98% decline in value.
So let's talk about the decline from 1913-1933.
The decline from 1913-1971.
The decline from 1971-today.

I outlined the entire monetary policy step by step.

Awesome!
Not let's discuss that decline......

 

[Natural Citizen]

You're complaining about a supposed 98% decline in value.
So let's talk about the decline from 1913-1933.
The decline from 1913-1971.
The decline from 1971-today.

I outlined the entire monetary policy step by step.

Awesome!
Not let's discuss that decline......

Alright. Contribute some substance to the discussion. I'm not doing it all for you, asshole. lol.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You're complaining about a supposed 98% decline in value.
So let's talk about the decline from 1913-1933.
The decline from 1913-1971.
The decline from 1971-today.

I outlined the entire monetary policy step by step.

Awesome!
Not let's discuss that decline......

Alright. Contribute some substance to the discussion. I'm not doing it all for you, asshole. lol.

Well, if you don't want to discuss the 98% decline in value of the dollar............

 

[Skylar]

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Right now the dollar is 98% down from 1913. 98%.

How much is it down between 1913-1933?
How much is it down between 1933-1971?

Irrelevant. Ya hack.

DERP!

You're not even a good troll. You're a statist hack who gets away with being a statist hack because nobody around here understands our monetary policy (or our history, for that matter)well enough to put your horse pucky in check. Go color.

You've been whining, since forever, that the taxpayer has to pay the Fed for using currency.
The Fed gets all these massive profits for printing money out of thin air.
But you won't even say how much the Fed made in 2016, for example, and who got the profit.

What are you afraid of? Besides looking like a bigger idiot?

Anything over operating expenses is refunded to the US government. Typically to the tune of tens of billions of dollars.

 

[Markle]

A Promissory Note is a "Promise to Pay," involving two or more distinct parties, where at least one is the Creditor and the other is the Debtor.

All US paper currency has the title "Federal Reserve Note."

Who are these mysterious Debtor and Creditor Parties?

I just get so many conflicting and contradicting "official" answers, who has the best and most agreed upon answer to this topic?

This is very large political issue because the average citizen should know who the Debtors and Creditors are of US currency.

Debtor is the U.S. Taxpayer

Creditor is the U.S. Taxpayer

 

[Skylar]

A Promissory Note is a "Promise to Pay," involving two or more distinct parties, where at least one is the Creditor and the other is the Debtor.

All US paper currency has the title "Federal Reserve Note."

Who are these mysterious Debtor and Creditor Parties?

I just get so many conflicting and contradicting "official" answers, who has the best and most agreed upon answer to this topic?

This is very large political issue because the average citizen should know who the Debtors and Creditors are of US currency.

Debtor is the U.S. Taxpayer

Creditor is the U.S. Taxpayer

Nope. Debtor is the United States. Creditor is anyone holding a Federal Reserve Note. Any business, institution, nation, individual, corporation, trust fund, bank, business, or grandma.

 

[Sicilianthing]

And the Lunatic FED just raised the rate again... Trump controls nothing...

Now Enter Crypto Currency frenzy with Algorithms created by the NSA

Who’s in control ?
Bankster families ...

GAME OVER !

 

[Sicilianthing]

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What about this then ?


Big News for the World

Posted: 01 Dec 2017 11:01 AM PST

By Anna Von Reitz

Big News for the World

[The irony is that the world banking community knows the news already; the only shock is that we know the news and have chosen to come forward and share it with everyone else.]

The American states and people own the debt of virtually every government at every level in the entire world--and we are aware of that fact and we are telling the world: hey, stop dealing with middlemen who are claiming to represent us.

No deal they can make "for" us is valid.

In commercial terms, the banks, lawyers, and politicians are not authorized to represent us in the settlement of any alleged bankruptcy, debt, credit, or other matter affecting our role and responsibility as the Paramount Security Interest Holders.

Instead of talking to bankers or politicians -- talk to the actual Postmasters who hold the bank charters and who are fiduciaries of the Creditors.

Okay?
This is not rocket science.

For everyone's information, the actual government of this country is an unincorporated Body Politic. Our name is: The United States of America.

We operate in sovereign (that is, unincorporated) capacity.
We do business as people using simple Trade Names and as persons in charge of unincorporated businesses engaged in peaceful international trade.

We are the Paramount Security Interest Holders and Priority Creditors of the UNITED STATES, INC. and all franchises thereof.

Ditto the USA, Inc. and all successors, derivatives, franchises, holdings, and variations thereof.

Our Post Master and Hereditary Head of State is James Clinton Belcher.

Our Post Office and Seat of Government is located at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Great Seal of the United States of America and the lesser (delegated) Great Seal of the United States belong to us as sovereign property.

We exercise all international land jurisdiction and retain all non-delegated powers in the international jurisdiction of the sea which naturally belong to the Union of the States of America as an unincorporated Holding Company created by those same states.

Our official language is American English.

Our official law is American Common Law.

Our law is Public Law exercised for private purposes.

Our money is the United States Silver Dollar, aka, American Silver Dollar.
We hold the charter on all private banks, all state credit unions, and all international trade banks.

We also ultimately subrogate and hold the charters of all federal commercial banks and credit unions under delegation. We have several accounts at the U.S. Treasury and we basically own the assets of the U.S. Treasury under delegation.

We have established cured claims upon all assets of the various federal corporations and federated "states of states" and we have posted our Private Indemnity Bonds. The name of our National Banking Association is The American States and Nations Bank. We are open for business through all our state credit union facilities nationwide.

Please note that state credit unions are specifically in business to serve "natural persons" known as "people" and unincorporated businesses, and also note that all state (not federal) credit unions are lawful money institutions already and are enabled to accept precious metals deposits and asset-backed currencies.

Anyone having any questions is welcome to contact me for additional details, but it really is as easy as looking up "state credit unions" in the phone book, or, if a state credit union is not available in your area, get together with your neighbors and form one.

The government of the United States by contrast is Territorial in nature. The United States Postmaster General is RUSSELL-J:GOULD. In its delegated capacity, the Territorial United States also has its seat of government located at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. In its municipal capacity, the Territorial United States also holds a seat of government in Washington, DC.

The United States holds the delegated authority over commercial affairs. As a result, it holds the charters of all the commercial banks and federal credit unions. These institutions all deal with "persons"---incorporated entities and their franchises ---not actual living people.

The fiat currency -- the Federal Reserve Notes, for example, are all issued by the United States in the name of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporation created by the US NAVY --a municipal corporation and now, a UN Corporation, that has nothing to do with the unincorporated government of The United States of America.

It is merely infringing on our international common law copyright of our business name and trademarks which have been in effect and in constant use since September 9,1776---a situation which is now under correction.

So it is now a matter of public record placed before at least 50 million people worldwide exactly who the Postmasters for The United States of America and The United States are and who exercises the rights and responsibilities.

She sounds like a nut.

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Ohh no no no Toddster, she’s uncovered the Truth, The WHOLE Truth and NOTHING but THE Truth and don’t let it scare you into making fast statements like that.

she’s uncovered the Truth,

The fiat currency -- the Federal Reserve Notes, for example, are all issued by the United States in the name of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporation created by the US NAVY --a municipal corporation and now, a UN Corporation, that has nothing to do with the unincorporated government of The United States of America.

Obviously. DERP!

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You just missed the whole thing she’s trying to expose/explain to you Todd, they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period ! It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

WTF Man ?

they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period !

I agree. They had no right to create the imaginary corporation that she's fantasizing about.

It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

All I see is Derpty Derp, Derpity Derpitude, by Derp!!!

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Wtf is a DERP ?

 

[Sicilianthing]

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Pass what are you talking about ?

You're unfamiliar with the Pentaverate?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It barely rang a bell, so I looked it up and I’ve already studied all that elsewhere but I can’t remember that word for some reason.

You've studied the Pentaverate?

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NO ! I said I’ve studied everything else about that same subject but I do not remember that word for some reason.

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Sorry never seen it and I could careless what Clowns say about it.
what else ?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

She sounds like a nut.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ohh no no no Toddster, she’s uncovered the Truth, The WHOLE Truth and NOTHING but THE Truth and don’t let it scare you into making fast statements like that.

she’s uncovered the Truth,

The fiat currency -- the Federal Reserve Notes, for example, are all issued by the United States in the name of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporation created by the US NAVY --a municipal corporation and now, a UN Corporation, that has nothing to do with the unincorporated government of The United States of America.

Obviously. DERP!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You just missed the whole thing she’s trying to expose/explain to you Todd, they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period ! It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

WTF Man ?

they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period !

I agree. They had no right to create the imaginary corporation that she's fantasizing about.

It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

All I see is Derpty Derp, Derpity Derpitude, by Derp!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

Wtf is a DERP ?

Derp is an expression associated with stupidity, much like the earlier forms of interjections like “duh” and “dur.”

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You're unfamiliar with the Pentaverate?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

It barely rang a bell, so I looked it up and I’ve already studied all that elsewhere but I can’t remember that word for some reason.

You've studied the Pentaverate?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

NO ! I said I’ve studied everything else about that same subject but I do not remember that word for some reason.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Sorry never seen it and I could careless what Clowns say about it.
what else ?

Watch out for the Colonel.....

 

[Sicilianthing]

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Ohh no no no Toddster, she’s uncovered the Truth, The WHOLE Truth and NOTHING but THE Truth and don’t let it scare you into making fast statements like that.

she’s uncovered the Truth,

The fiat currency -- the Federal Reserve Notes, for example, are all issued by the United States in the name of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporation created by the US NAVY --a municipal corporation and now, a UN Corporation, that has nothing to do with the unincorporated government of The United States of America.

Obviously. DERP!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You just missed the whole thing she’s trying to expose/explain to you Todd, they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period ! It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

WTF Man ?

they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period !

I agree. They had no right to create the imaginary corporation that she's fantasizing about.

It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

All I see is Derpty Derp, Derpity Derpitude, by Derp!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

Wtf is a DERP ?

Derp is an expression associated with stupidity, much like the earlier forms of interjections like “duh” and “dur.”

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Never heard of it, so what part did I write that you think is stupid ?

 

[Sicilianthing]

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It barely rang a bell, so I looked it up and I’ve already studied all that elsewhere but I can’t remember that word for some reason.

You've studied the Pentaverate?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

NO ! I said I’ve studied everything else about that same subject but I do not remember that word for some reason.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Sorry never seen it and I could careless what Clowns say about it.
what else ?

Watch out for the Colonel.....

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

FUCK the Colonel ! How’s that sound ?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

she’s uncovered the Truth,

The fiat currency -- the Federal Reserve Notes, for example, are all issued by the United States in the name of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporation created by the US NAVY --a municipal corporation and now, a UN Corporation, that has nothing to do with the unincorporated government of The United States of America.

Obviously. DERP!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You just missed the whole thing she’s trying to expose/explain to you Todd, they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period ! It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

WTF Man ?

they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period !

I agree. They had no right to create the imaginary corporation that she's fantasizing about.

It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

All I see is Derpty Derp, Derpity Derpitude, by Derp!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

Wtf is a DERP ?

Derp is an expression associated with stupidity, much like the earlier forms of interjections like “duh” and “dur.”

>>>>>>>>>>>

Never heard of it, so what part did I write that you think is stupid ?

That entire "article".

Maritime Jurisdictions

DERP!

 

[Skylar]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You just missed the whole thing she’s trying to expose/explain to you Todd, they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period ! It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

WTF Man ?

they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period !

I agree. They had no right to create the imaginary corporation that she's fantasizing about.

It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

All I see is Derpty Derp, Derpity Derpitude, by Derp!!!

>>>>>>>>>>>

Wtf is a DERP ?

Derp is an expression associated with stupidity, much like the earlier forms of interjections like “duh” and “dur.”

>>>>>>>>>>>

Never heard of it, so what part did I write that you think is stupid ?

That entire "article".

Maritime Jurisdictions

DERP!

Oh, shit....not this 'maritime jurisdictions' bullshit again. Where the fringe length on a flag is evidence of some batshit conspiracy?

Has that nonsense *ever* worked?

 

[Skylar]

You're the one whining about the declining value............
The Fed was around for 20 years, what's the value in 1933?

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What about this then ?


Big News for the World

Posted: 01 Dec 2017 11:01 AM PST

By Anna Von Reitz

Big News for the World

[The irony is that the world banking community knows the news already; the only shock is that we know the news and have chosen to come forward and share it with everyone else.]

The American states and people own the debt of virtually every government at every level in the entire world--and we are aware of that fact and we are telling the world: hey, stop dealing with middlemen who are claiming to represent us.

No deal they can make "for" us is valid.

In commercial terms, the banks, lawyers, and politicians are not authorized to represent us in the settlement of any alleged bankruptcy, debt, credit, or other matter affecting our role and responsibility as the Paramount Security Interest Holders.

Instead of talking to bankers or politicians -- talk to the actual Postmasters who hold the bank charters and who are fiduciaries of the Creditors.

Okay?
This is not rocket science.

For everyone's information, the actual government of this country is an unincorporated Body Politic. Our name is: The United States of America.

We operate in sovereign (that is, unincorporated) capacity.
We do business as people using simple Trade Names and as persons in charge of unincorporated businesses engaged in peaceful international trade.

We are the Paramount Security Interest Holders and Priority Creditors of the UNITED STATES, INC. and all franchises thereof.

Ditto the USA, Inc. and all successors, derivatives, franchises, holdings, and variations thereof.

Our Post Master and Hereditary Head of State is James Clinton Belcher.

Our Post Office and Seat of Government is located at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. The Great Seal of the United States of America and the lesser (delegated) Great Seal of the United States belong to us as sovereign property.

We exercise all international land jurisdiction and retain all non-delegated powers in the international jurisdiction of the sea which naturally belong to the Union of the States of America as an unincorporated Holding Company created by those same states.

Our official language is American English.

Our official law is American Common Law.

Our law is Public Law exercised for private purposes.

Our money is the United States Silver Dollar, aka, American Silver Dollar.
We hold the charter on all private banks, all state credit unions, and all international trade banks.

We also ultimately subrogate and hold the charters of all federal commercial banks and credit unions under delegation. We have several accounts at the U.S. Treasury and we basically own the assets of the U.S. Treasury under delegation.

We have established cured claims upon all assets of the various federal corporations and federated "states of states" and we have posted our Private Indemnity Bonds. The name of our National Banking Association is The American States and Nations Bank. We are open for business through all our state credit union facilities nationwide.

Please note that state credit unions are specifically in business to serve "natural persons" known as "people" and unincorporated businesses, and also note that all state (not federal) credit unions are lawful money institutions already and are enabled to accept precious metals deposits and asset-backed currencies.

Anyone having any questions is welcome to contact me for additional details, but it really is as easy as looking up "state credit unions" in the phone book, or, if a state credit union is not available in your area, get together with your neighbors and form one.

The government of the United States by contrast is Territorial in nature. The United States Postmaster General is RUSSELL-J:GOULD. In its delegated capacity, the Territorial United States also has its seat of government located at Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. In its municipal capacity, the Territorial United States also holds a seat of government in Washington, DC.

The United States holds the delegated authority over commercial affairs. As a result, it holds the charters of all the commercial banks and federal credit unions. These institutions all deal with "persons"---incorporated entities and their franchises ---not actual living people.

The fiat currency -- the Federal Reserve Notes, for example, are all issued by the United States in the name of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporation created by the US NAVY --a municipal corporation and now, a UN Corporation, that has nothing to do with the unincorporated government of The United States of America.

It is merely infringing on our international common law copyright of our business name and trademarks which have been in effect and in constant use since September 9,1776---a situation which is now under correction.

So it is now a matter of public record placed before at least 50 million people worldwide exactly who the Postmasters for The United States of America and The United States are and who exercises the rights and responsibilities.

She sounds like a nut.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Ohh no no no Toddster, she’s uncovered the Truth, The WHOLE Truth and NOTHING but THE Truth and don’t let it scare you into making fast statements like that.

she’s uncovered the Truth,

The fiat currency -- the Federal Reserve Notes, for example, are all issued by the United States in the name of THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA which is a corporation created by the US NAVY --a municipal corporation and now, a UN Corporation, that has nothing to do with the unincorporated government of The United States of America.

Obviously. DERP!

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You just missed the whole thing she’s trying to expose/explain to you Todd, they had no right to create any fucking Corporation for any of that Period ! It’s all Unconstitutional Over Reach FRAUD Extensions of Maritime Jurisdictions in a Cease Fire that never ended under an occupied Force on our Republic !

WTF Man ?

No court has ever accepted that 'maritime jurisdiction' horseshit. What's the point of a 'legal argument' that isn't recognized by the law or accepted in any court?