"Whitey is to Blame" - President of Brazil

Discussion in 'Race Relations/Racism' started by Toro, Mar 28, 2009.

  1. Toro
    Offline

    Toro Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Sep 29, 2005
    Messages:
    50,755
    Thanks Received:
    11,052
    Trophy Points:
    2,030
    Location:
    The Big Bend via Riderville
    Ratings:
    +25,081
    An, er, "interesting" take on the global financial crisis.

    'Blue-eyed bankers' to blame for crash, Brazil's Lula tells Gordon Brown | World news | guardian.co.uk
     
  2. Epsilon Delta
    Offline

    Epsilon Delta Jedi Master

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2008
    Messages:
    2,687
    Thanks Received:
    363
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Central America
    Ratings:
    +364
    Err... but isn't it... true?
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  3. Ravi
    Offline

    Ravi Diamond Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2008
    Messages:
    81,332
    Thanks Received:
    12,695
    Trophy Points:
    2,205
    Location:
    Hating Hatters
    Ratings:
    +29,780
    I think the entire financial meltdown was caused by people that enjoy driving fast cars. Most bank executives and wall street traders drive Jags, Corvettes, and Porsches. If we give the financial system to people that drive Jettas we will be in great shape!!!
     
  4. dilloduck
    Offline

    dilloduck Diamond Member

    Joined:
    May 8, 2004
    Messages:
    53,240
    Thanks Received:
    5,552
    Trophy Points:
    1,850
    Location:
    Austin, TX
    Ratings:
    +6,403
    The financial system isn't ours to "give".
     
  5. morpheus
    Offline

    morpheus Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Messages:
    86
    Thanks Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Ratings:
    +14
    No, it's not. That's a very ignorant stereotype: that all White people have blue eyes. Lula is himself a White guy without blue eyes. Blue eyes are more common within certain White ethnic groups (like Scandinavians), but they are less common in others, and even among Scandinavians blue eyes are far from universal. Only a minority of American Whites have blue eyes, and it's a pretty safe bet that only a minority of American bankers have blue eyes.

    Otherwise, it's a pretty safe bet to assume that most bankers in the United States (who caused this problem) are White. But I question Lula's judgment in feeling the need to point out the obvious: that White people are disproportionally advantaged in both the United States and Brazil (and disproportionally hold positions of power), and that Black people (including pardo [mixed African & European heritage]) are disproportionally disadvantaged in both countries. This is a given, and there was no need for Lula to point this out, unless he was making a rebuttal against an unfair remark aimed at Black people. Additionally, his comment ignores the fact that, even though White people are generally better off than Black people in both the United States and Brazil, tens of millions of White people in both countries do live in poverty, and hundreds of millions more -who belong to the middle classes- are being heavily impacted by the recession and the actions of greedy bankers. So, making this into a White-vs-rest issue, is a tad counterproductive, and risks creating a "race" issue where there really isn't one.
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2009
  6. Epsilon Delta
    Offline

    Epsilon Delta Jedi Master

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2008
    Messages:
    2,687
    Thanks Received:
    363
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    Central America
    Ratings:
    +364
    As usual, Morpheus with the good point; and I stand corrected. Though we can both agree, I think, that the comments won't really have far reaching effects- It just seems like a simple, silly comment, obviously oversimplifying the situation, but hardly enough to spark any "racial strife" anywhere.
     
  7. morpheus
    Offline

    morpheus Member

    Joined:
    Aug 15, 2008
    Messages:
    86
    Thanks Received:
    14
    Trophy Points:
    6
    Ratings:
    +14
    I hope so. It just seems that a silly ill-thought out comment like this one will give the hard-core conservatives more impetus firstly, and secondly he's kind of promoting the pseudo-anthropological viewpoint that's been emerging lately (particularly in the United States) that excludes several White people from the "White" designation.
     
  8. cbi0090
    Offline

    cbi0090 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 8, 2008
    Messages:
    436
    Thanks Received:
    46
    Trophy Points:
    16
    Ratings:
    +46
    Unfortunately, not true. Anyone familiar with what's going on in Venezuela, Bolivia, and most of the South America, knows this lies at the heart of the problems there. European (Spanish, Dutch, Portuguese, Italian, German) decendants generally make up the upper classes. They aren't all white and blue-eyed but everyone knows who they are pointing to. Their class structures are old-world and lines between them have been rarely crossed until only recently. The younger generations, thanks in no small part to communications (cell phones, internet), are breaking down the barriers but not fast enough for some. Luls's comment is at best irresponsible and at worst inflamatory but what else would you expect from someone who built his career on populism. It's a shame because he has otherwise done a fairly good job. It's just amazing to see how the true nature of a person reveals itself the instant they feel backed into a corner but he needs to stop and realize he's not the only one feeling frustrated.
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  9. Xenophon
    Offline

    Xenophon Gone and forgotten

    Joined:
    Nov 27, 2008
    Messages:
    16,705
    Thanks Received:
    3,750
    Trophy Points:
    48
    Location:
    In your head
    Ratings:
    +3,751
    Honkies trying to keep the black man down!
     
    • Thank You! Thank You! x 1
  10. 52ndStreet
    Offline

    52ndStreet VIP Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2008
    Messages:
    2,883
    Thanks Received:
    147
    Trophy Points:
    83
    Ratings:
    +170
    Well Lula is 100% right . This entire global economic meltdown was caused by greedy White Blue eyed males. How many blacks and hispanics, are in the decision maker position at these Banks, and Wall street
    firms.?., none!.The White Blue eyed, males and females are responsible for the Global economic meltdown.!!$$$!!
     

Share This Page