CDZ White House (Obama) Proclaims AI Robotics to Take Half of all Jobs

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    So, if I understand you correctly, the mere facts that strong AI could replicate itself, and improve upon itself, changes human nature. What evidence do you have of this correlation?
     
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    No, you do not understand me correctly.

    It is the combination of Strong AI on android chassis that possess advanced manipulative appendages derived from advanced prosthetics that will make that advanced android capable of building, installing, and maintaining itself and do every other thing that a human can do and all for the purchase of around $2000.

    A modern machine slave for $2000 that never sleeps, gets sick, doesnt have to be paid any more, never goes on vacation, and will ALWAYS GET EVERYTHING DONE PERFECTLY AND NEVER COMPLAINS EVER.
     
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    I understand what you are saying about the technology. Do you understand that what I am asking about is how that fundamentally changes the human urge to be productive?

    You have suggested that humans will no longer be productive, relying instead on robots and AI. What tells you that this will be the case? History shows us that this is simply not a foregone conclusion, so what evidence do you have that would suggest this is going to change do to AI?
     
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    Yes, humans will still be productive, but not on the cash economy, but on a barter economy instead.

    And it will change due to AI because of the combination of AI and prostheticaly advanced android chassis that will house them, their communication among themselves in real instantaneous time and this will make human labor obsolete.

    This change in the work environment will push human labor into a barter system, at best, if there is a cash stipend to the broad public that will enable them to continue to act as a consumer economy.

    Another solution might be to limit by law how many androids any corporation or person can own and then compel corporations to rent the robots from citizens.

    What exactly must be done to adjust to the future obsolescence of human labor I don t know, but I am 99% certain human labor of all varieties is going to become obsolete.
     
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    This is why capitalism as you liberterians want it won't work anymore...

    We need to become a society that uses these robots to feed our population and make it work for us....A basic living income needs to be set up for all that can't get jobs within the new economy.
     
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    Matthew, who are the libertarians you are referring to here?
     
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    We will have to agree to disagree on this. I do not see that actually coming to pass. I just don't see how people will stand for it.
    BTW, as a Machinist (?), if I remember correctly, I do understand why you would be quite wary of automation, and AI, as your field will likely be one of the first to go.
     
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    The point raised about the human need to be productive is true.

    How do you deal with the negative social effects of that being taken away from people?
     
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    Anyone to the Right of him.

    You should be happy he dropped the "Losertarians" nonsense.
     
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