While America Watches Kerry...

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    The death toll for the first two days of November is 8. Whats more, prominent Iraqis are being targeted and assassinated by terrorists.

    The dean of business administration at university of baghdad plus his wife and son, a criminal court judge and his son, and a member of the Islamic party and his daughter were all assassinated. They were a few of the 58 civilians killed in Iraq on Thursday.

    A message to democrat and republican politicians: wake the fuck up. We need solutions to the real problems, leave the worthless back and forth bickering about Kerry to the pundits.
     
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    why do you think jfk wanted to cover up the deaths of ignorant soldiers in iraq?

    oh and when hillary pulls out.....the death toll of iraqs will drop .....
     
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    Unfortunately, that is the problem 1549. Kerry has allowed yet again his complete contempt for the military to shine through. He merely stated what alot of our leaders think. That the military is a bunch of idiots that couldnt think themselves out of a paper bag. THEREFORE, they don't give a rats ass if they stay over in IRaq forever. They would much rather use them as a political football to be tossed around for a few political points rather than get the job done so they can come home.

    As long as we have leaders that refuse to understand that the job our men and women are doing over there is important, the longer the fighting will go on for.
     
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    That means quit dicking around with worthless bullshit and formulate a way to save Iraq.

    And the democrats do not advocate a pull out...though pulling out does work 73% of the time :D
     
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    I agree we need to stop dicking around and take out the enemy. Thats the only way to come home as Victors with a defeated and demoralized enemy. IF only our media would let us. The one thing they are right about is that its Vietnam all over again. We win the ground war but lose the propaganda one. I will punch a liberal sqaure in the face if our soldiers come and home and get spit on like our dads, uncles and even some grandfathers did.
     
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    You may think that the discussions about Kerry’s remark are worthless. But such discussions influence to some small degree who will have political power in the US after 7 November. And there is nothing less worthless on this planet than who has political power in America. This is about spinning advantage and tweaking the last vote. Your sensibilities are disturbed? How many votes will that deliver? “Wake up” to the reality of power politics in the US. The game is on and what really matters is how many will vote for whom on 7 November.
     
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    I know why they are doing it, but as I said, leave the political gaming to the pundits. How about this, 2 months ago you are told of the statement John Kerry will make. Would you be able to guess the reactions? Of course. Democrats will distance themselves, Republicans will go on the offensive. Every American planning to vote on November 7th could have told you that. That is why the reactions of the politicians are not going to have an impact: it is predictable, and 85% of Americans dislike John Kerry anyway (merely a better option than bush).

    The whole point of this thread was that they should stop the gaming and stick to business. If one Republican in a tight race had the nuts to say "John Kerry's statements are disgraceful, but the real issue we need to stay focused on is what strategies to employ in Iraq." That statement would have a far greater impact on the polls than "John Kerry this and John Kerry that". The fact that the White House dived into this with an official statement and Karl Rove comments is a fucking joke. The White House can not criticize Kerry for not supporting the troops when generals are swarming to tell listeners that there are not enough troops and that funding is not being adequately allocated to train and properly equip the troops in place.

    P.S. John Kerry had 2 waffles for breakfast, a bread bowl of creamy onion soup for lunch, he has pissed twice, and also he began the morning with a shit that clogged the toilet. oh yea, and 81 people died in Iraq. Vote Republican because John Kerry is a fuck up!
     
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    Sometimes there is only one way to win a war: fight total war, destroy the infrastructure and fight with little care for the impact on the country. This is may be one of those wars. Too bad for us, that kind of a strategy would probably be a better long term strategy for the terrorists than for us. Thus, we should stabalize the country, beef up Iraqs army, and then call it a day.

    P.S. Vietnam was the same situation as Iraq in that the cost of victory would not have been worth the price. America should not back wars in which victory is overshadowed by sacrifice.
     
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    So definitely no WW1 or WW2 then? The sacrifices of those 2 wars alone was greater than all other wars in the history of humanity. Was it worth the fight?
     
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    Which, of course, specifically tells us that the Terrorists are stepping up their efforts in an attempt to influence this election in favor of the Democrats.

    BTW the Democrat attitude toward the military and their lack of support for our troops is an issue that cannot be ignored in the effort to solve "real problems" in Iraq. The only reason the "real problems" exist is because there is an entire political party who refuse to support the troops in any way that can actually help them win this war.
     

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