Which was worst Assad or Saddam.. 5,000 killed or 800,000 killed?

[GoneBezerk]

Typical twit.

We supported Saddam against the Soviets and Iranians.

I guess you think the USSR and Iran were saints.

If left unchecked any ruthless dictator could amass the same stats as Saddam. Imagine the lives and money that could have been saved had we stopped saddam early on.....

Uh yeah Didn't help that the U.S. was supplying him w/ weapons to do that killing

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTldYbqlJc8]Rumsfeld & Saddam Make Nice - YouTube[/ame]​

 

[Douger]

Little boy, a phonecall to my friend and I'd know everything about you.

Oh look, Doucher is on his bathroom break at Burger King.

LOL. If you only knew..............you'd probably sell the trailer and come after me.

Call him up.Brainwashed Nazi.

 

[GoneBezerk]

If you're with Anonymous....you'll be in jail soon.

Little boy, a phonecall to my friend and I'd know everything about you.

LOL. If you only knew..............you'd probably sell the trailer and come after me.

Call him up.Brainwashed Nazi.

 

[Dot Com]

Typical twit.

We supported Saddam against the Soviets and Iranians.

I guess you think the USSR and Iran were saints.

If left unchecked any ruthless dictator could amass the same stats as Saddam. Imagine the lives and money that could have been saved had we stopped saddam early on.....

Uh yeah Didn't help that the U.S. was supplying him w/ weapons to do that killing

The fact remains, asswipe, that an Repub admin that is brokering/selling billion of $'s in arms to a country over many years will be reluctant to overthrow them. Understand?

 

[Dot Com]

If you're with Anonymous....you'll be in jail soon.

Little boy, a phonecall to my friend and I'd know everything about you.

Call him up.Brainwashed Nazi.

How old are you? 14? I do applaud you for supporting the Establishment candidate though

 

[GoneBezerk]

Dolt Com....the US position was Saddam in the 80s running Iraq was a better option than a Russian controlled dictator that could endanger middle east oil in Kuwait, Saudi, etc.

You seem to forget the Russian invasion into Afghanistan as if they didn't want to push further into the region. Who knows....they might've had plans to invade Paakistan years ago when they supported India in the 80s. Think warm water port close to the Strait of Hormuz.

Typical twit.

We supported Saddam against the Soviets and Iranians.

I guess you think the USSR and Iran were saints.

Uh yeah Didn't help that the U.S. was supplying him w/ weapons to do that killing

The fact remains, asswipe, that an Repub admin that is brokering/selling billion of $'s in arms to a country over many years will be reluctant to overthrow them. Understand?

 

[healthmyths]

Well in truth.. IN SPITE of these types of CHEERLEADING statements:
Durbin (D) "must have been done by Nazis, Soviets --action of Americans
in the treatment of their prisoners.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid(D) "War is lost",
U.S. Rep. Murtha(D) "Our troops killed innocent civilians in cold blood,”
Senator Kerry(D) "American soldiers going into the homes of Iraqis in the
dead of night, terrorizing kids and children."
Senator Obama(D) .."troops are air-raiding villages and killing civilians,"
AND IN SPITE of the MSM as you correctly stated continually BASHING and broadcasting (ON many broadcasts the 3 major networks USED THE SAME video.. I know "pooled" but point is the majority of VIEWERS flipping channels wouldn't know and as a consequence the continual repetitious footage aided in the opinion making...!)
the military won!
AND did ANYONE in the MSM care to point out that IT WASN"T Obama's timetable for Iraq but one made during Bush administration timetable!
It was PLANNED for the withdrawals NOT told but on reaching benchmarks that were reached!

Download from here Iraq Index - Saban Center for Middle East Policy - Brookings Institution
Download Most Recent Iraq Index January 31, 2012
I've download in the past this Index since 2006 that gives a sort of report card on Iraq..
Page 24 for example
GDP Estimates and projections from 2002 to 2012
In 2002 Per Capita GDP UNDER SADDAM! $802 per person..
in 2012 Per Capital GDP AFTER Saddam! $3,808 per person.. a 374% INCREASE

Page 25
% of population with access to sanitation 2008 8% Early 2011 26%
% of population with acces to potable water 2008 22% Early 2011 70%

Telephone subscribers in 2003 833,000 Jan 2010 19,500,000 cellular 1,300,000 land lines

page 26
Trained judges 2003 0 April 2011 1,261

Page 29 Over last year (April 2011 to 2010) 60% Iraqs polled said better the previous year.

The Brookings Institute is a left wing think tank but for the most part has accurately portrayed what had been going on since 2006 and when you get this report again surprises that you don't get in the MSM biased reporting AND it use to be WORSE!!!



WHAT say all you critics???

 

[GoneBezerk]

I'm older than you and the anarchist. I am all about putting anarchists in jail, maybe you too.

If you're with Anonymous....you'll be in jail soon.

Call him up.Brainwashed Nazi.

How old are you? 14? I do applaud you for supporting the Establishment candidate though

 

[Ed Spacer]

Time to eliminate islamofacism....

 

[Lovebears65]

I haven't seen us invade Syria and lose 5500 Americans

Right...
Why did we invade France in WWI
Why did we "invade" France in WWII?
Why did we "invade" Korea in 1950s?

Neither one of them invaded the USA nor killed any American!

What was the difference???

OK....let's talk Iraq again
That's always fun


Iraq was no threat to anon outside Iraq, Iraq was under control for ten years, Iraq was not involved in 9-11, Iraq did not have WMDs

IRAQ was NO THREAT

You do not waste 5500 American lives for no threat

In Vietnam over 58K people died and who put our troops there. Oh yeah Dems

 

[DaGoose]

Obama is all bent out of shape over Syria's Assad killing 5,000 people YET he evidently was NOT at all concerned over Saddam's killing over the years of 800,000 Iraqis and gave Bush a ration of crap over Liberating 28 million people from a dictator a thousand times worse the Assad!

WHY???

Probably because we were the ones who sold the WMD's to Saddam during the Reagan years.

And get back to me when we put ground troops in Syria.

 

[Douger]

If you're with Anonymous....you'll be in jail soon.

Call him up.Brainwashed Nazi.

How old are you? 14? I do applaud you for supporting the Establishment candidate though

59 in Marzo. Retired at 38. You ?

 

[Dot Com]

If you're with Anonymous....you'll be in jail soon.

How old are you? 14? I do applaud you for supporting the Establishment candidate though

59 in Marzo. Retired at 38. You ?

My post was directed at the Romney cheerleader.

 

[Trajan]

which Assad?

between the old Hama massacre of 82, the new Hama massacre now and other assorted ventures, Assad clan has rung up , oh, 50k-70? Fair amount of Palestinians in there too btw....

 

[healthmyths]

If left unchecked any ruthless dictator could amass the same stats as Saddam. Imagine the lives and money that could have been saved had we stopped saddam early on.....

Uh yeah Didn't help that the U.S. was supplying him w/ weapons to do that killing

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTldYbqlJc8]Rumsfeld & Saddam Make Nice - YouTube[/ame]​

You evidently WEREN"T alive during the period of time known as "COLD WAR"

Look it up!

Also your hero FDR??
Look who was sitting with a KNOWN murderer of 20 million people and ALLY in WWII!

 

[Cowman]

If you're with Anonymous....you'll be in jail soon.

Little boy, a phonecall to my friend and I'd know everything about you.

Call him up.Brainwashed Nazi.

What kind of stupid shit is this GoneBezerk?

You do know that nearly all of the Anonymous supporters/members are not involved in any of the actual operations that Anonymous does, right?

So your assumptions are baseless and stupid.

We don't live in Nazi Germany where mere association or support with a group lands you in jail.

 

[rightwinger]

Right...
Why did we invade France in WWI
Why did we "invade" France in WWII?
Why did we "invade" Korea in 1950s?

Neither one of them invaded the USA nor killed any American!

What was the difference???

OK....let's talk Iraq again
That's always fun


Iraq was no threat to anon outside Iraq, Iraq was under control for ten years, Iraq was not involved in 9-11, Iraq did not have WMDs

IRAQ was NO THREAT

You do not waste 5500 American lives for no threat

In Vietnam over 58K people died and who put our troops there. Oh yeah Dems

Your point is???


Maybe we should have learned a lesson about deploying our troops frivolously

 

[healthmyths]

Obama is all bent out of shape over Syria's Assad killing 5,000 people YET he evidently was NOT at all concerned over Saddam's killing over the years of 800,000 Iraqis and gave Bush a ration of crap over Liberating 28 million people from a dictator a thousand times worse the Assad!

WHY???

Probably because we were the ones who sold the WMD's to Saddam during the Reagan years.

And get back to me when we put ground troops in Syria.

YEA again history lesson evidently for you!!!

A) Every hear of the "Cold War".. seems the USA was proxy fighting USSR and
at that time Iraq was our Proxy! Iran... USSR's proxy but let me know if these
concepts are alien or go WAY over your head!!!

B) As far as troops.. Of course NOT Syria was never at war with USA/Coalition etc.!
But you evidently wEREN'T born in 1991??
See there was a war BECAUSE IRAQ INVADED Kuwait!
NOW this maybe hard for you to follow BUT:
Iraq signed a CEASE FIRE!!! NOT peace treaty.. NoT cessation of conflict just
CEASE FIRE!

So after 13 years of ignoring UN resolutions, and yes Clinton's bombing
Clinton's "serious consequences"..drops 241,000 pounds of bombs on Iraq, sends 1,100 missiles
December 16, 1998 8:51 p.m. EST (0151 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- From the Oval Office, President Clinton told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes against Iraq.
"Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors," said Clinton.
Timeline Iraq War

AND again evidently BEFORE YOUR TIME 9/11/2001 occurred. Remember that event from your history books while you are in grade school today??

See 74% of Americans were VERY happy that Bush decided enough of this Terrorism support by Saddam! Enough of his threatening to send with Terrorists his WMDs!
So Bush being the adult who unlike you children just stamp your foot and whine..
BUSH said Saddam...
a) you signed a CEASE FIRE you've ignored it for the last time!
Bush told Saddam this in 2001 right after 9/11 but waited for Congress OK...
b) Saddam you've murdered 800,000 of your own people enough!

So after 13 years of warnings, UN resolutions and 74% of Americans as well as oh by the way THIS PUBLIC LAW!!!

"To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq." Oct. 16, 2002 -
(Public law 107-243, 116 Stat. 1497-1502)
Introduced as H.J.Res. 114, passed the House on October 10, 2002 296-133, (68.9% of the house)
the Senate on October 11 - 77-23. (77%)

NOTE THE DATE::" ONE full year after 9/11!!!
AND THEN it was another six months till the Liberation Occurred!
(March 19–May 1, 2003) and it took less the 8 weeks to be accomplished!

SEE AGAIN being in GRADE school as you are since you seem to be totally unaware of these events..
A) Saddam murdered 800,000 of his people!
B) He ignored the 1991 Cease Fire after he INVADED KUWAIT
C) THE USA could NOT take with 74% of Americans agreeing chances that another
9/11 would occur since Saddam danced in the streets when that happened!
D) The duty of Bush is to protect the nation (Check it out in the Constitution???)

AGAIN since you weren't there evidently MOST true Americans DIDN"T KNOW for sure what Saddam's intentions WERE but as Bush so clearly STATED:

"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent.
Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?
If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."

OH and again Here are 32 DEMOCRAT comments SUPPORTING BUSH and the rest of the 74% of TRUE Americans...
BEFORE BUSH ... When CLINTON was President...
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger- Clinton National. Security. Advisor 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999

"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs.threat our security".Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002



So AGAIN.. What grade are you in grade school that YOU"VE NOT HEARD about the
above FACTS???

 

[rdean]

Obama is all bent out of shape over Syria's Assad killing 5,000 people YET he evidently was NOT at all concerned over Saddam's killing over the years of 800,000 Iraqis and gave Bush a ration of crap over Liberating 28 million people from a dictator a thousand times worse the Assad!

WHY???

Actually, there is some debate whether the Kurds were gassed by Saddam due to an upraising or were they gassed by Iran because both sides did use gas during their 8 year war. Some even say that Iraq tried to gas Iranians and the wind shifted and spilled back into Iraq.

We just assume Saddam killed his people because that what conservatives in this country have been saying. Look at Middle Eastern and news sources outside the country and you get a different story.

Remember, it's stations like Fox who sued for the right to lie, said the president took at trip costing 200 million dollars a day and the Keystone pipeline would create a million new jobs. Republicans believed all that before their noses were rubbed in the truth so hard they could no longer believe the lie. How many other lies do they believe because the evidence isn't strong enough to shake their beliefs. Come on, the majority believe in "magical creation" and a quarter believe Obama is the anti-Christ.

 

[rdean]

Obama is all bent out of shape over Syria's Assad killing 5,000 people YET he evidently was NOT at all concerned over Saddam's killing over the years of 800,000 Iraqis and gave Bush a ration of crap over Liberating 28 million people from a dictator a thousand times worse the Assad!

WHY???

Probably because we were the ones who sold the WMD's to Saddam during the Reagan years.

And get back to me when we put ground troops in Syria.

YEA again history lesson evidently for you!!!

A) Every hear of the "Cold War".. seems the USA was proxy fighting USSR and
at that time Iraq was our Proxy! Iran... USSR's proxy but let me know if these
concepts are alien or go WAY over your head!!!

B) As far as troops.. Of course NOT Syria was never at war with USA/Coalition etc.!
But you evidently wEREN'T born in 1991??
See there was a war BECAUSE IRAQ INVADED Kuwait!
NOW this maybe hard for you to follow BUT:
Iraq signed a CEASE FIRE!!! NOT peace treaty.. NoT cessation of conflict just
CEASE FIRE!

So after 13 years of ignoring UN resolutions, and yes Clinton's bombing
Clinton's "serious consequences"..drops 241,000 pounds of bombs on Iraq, sends 1,100 missiles
December 16, 1998 8:51 p.m. EST (0151 GMT)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- From the Oval Office, President Clinton told the nation Wednesday evening why he ordered new military strikes against Iraq.
"Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors," said Clinton.
Timeline Iraq War

AND again evidently BEFORE YOUR TIME 9/11/2001 occurred. Remember that event from your history books while you are in grade school today??

See 74% of Americans were VERY happy that Bush decided enough of this Terrorism support by Saddam! Enough of his threatening to send with Terrorists his WMDs!
So Bush being the adult who unlike you children just stamp your foot and whine..
BUSH said Saddam...
a) you signed a CEASE FIRE you've ignored it for the last time!
Bush told Saddam this in 2001 right after 9/11 but waited for Congress OK...
b) Saddam you've murdered 800,000 of your own people enough!

So after 13 years of warnings, UN resolutions and 74% of Americans as well as oh by the way THIS PUBLIC LAW!!!

"To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq." Oct. 16, 2002 -
(Public law 107-243, 116 Stat. 1497-1502)
Introduced as H.J.Res. 114, passed the House on October 10, 2002 296-133, (68.9% of the house)
the Senate on October 11 - 77-23. (77%)

NOTE THE DATE::" ONE full year after 9/11!!!
AND THEN it was another six months till the Liberation Occurred!
(March 19–May 1, 2003) and it took less the 8 weeks to be accomplished!

SEE AGAIN being in GRADE school as you are since you seem to be totally unaware of these events..
A) Saddam murdered 800,000 of his people!
B) He ignored the 1991 Cease Fire after he INVADED KUWAIT
C) THE USA could NOT take with 74% of Americans agreeing chances that another
9/11 would occur since Saddam danced in the streets when that happened!
D) The duty of Bush is to protect the nation (Check it out in the Constitution???)

AGAIN since you weren't there evidently MOST true Americans DIDN"T KNOW for sure what Saddam's intentions WERE but as Bush so clearly STATED:

"Some have said we must not act until the threat is imminent.
Since when have terrorists and tyrants announced their intentions, politely putting us on notice before they strike?
If this threat is permitted to fully and suddenly emerge, all actions, all words, and all recriminations would come too late. Trusting in the sanity and restraint of Saddam Hussein is not a strategy, and it is not an option."

OH and again Here are 32 DEMOCRAT comments SUPPORTING BUSH and the rest of the 74% of TRUE Americans...
BEFORE BUSH ... When CLINTON was President...
"..deny Iraq the capacity to develop WMD".Bill Clinton,1998
"..most brutal dictators of Century", Biden,1998
"Iraq compliance with Resolution 687 becomes shell game"..Daschle 1998
"He will use those WMDs again,as he has ten times since 1983" ..Berger- Clinton National. Security. Advisor 1998
"posed by Iraq's refusal to end its WMD programs" Levin 1998
"Saddam has been engaged in development of WMDs which is a threat.."Pelosi 1998
"Hussein has chosen to spend his money on building WMDS.."Albright 1999

"Saddam to refine delivery systems, that will threaten the US..."Graham 2001
"Saddam has ignored the mandate of the UN and is building WMDs and the means to deliver.." Levin 2002
"Iraq's search for WMDs ...will continue as long as Saddam's in power"..Gore 2002
"Saddam retains stockpiles of WMDS.."Byrd 2002
"give President authority to use force..to disarm Saddam because an arsenal of WMDs.threat our security".Kerry 2002
"..Unmistakable evidence Saddam developing nuclear weapons next 5 years.."Rockefeller 2002
"Violated over 11 years every UN resolution demanding disarming WMDs.."Waxman 2002
"He's given aid,comfort & sanctuary to al Qaeda members..and keep developing WMDs"..Hillary 2002
"Compelling evidence Saddam has WMDs production storage capacity.." Graham 2002



So AGAIN.. What grade are you in grade school that YOU"VE NOT HEARD about the
above FACTS???

Too bad right wingers don't understand "hearsay" and "facts" are not the same thing. Anything in that list after 2001 was planted by the Bush administration. Who knew a president would lie the nation into a war costing the lives of thousands of Americans and the maiming of tens of thousands. Bush Sr. had been head of the CIA, Vice President and President. He knew exactly what was in Iraq. It's why he stopped at the border. Iraq was a defeated country with a ruined military. No manufacturing or industry of any consequence, under sanctions secretly selling oil to get medical supplies for it's people. To think they were a threat is ridiculous. Why can't Republicans "think" instead of only "imagine"?