CDZ Which political party is the party of the KKK?

Which Party is the party of the KKK

  • Neither party is the party of the KKK- its all partisan BS

    Votes: 7 70.0%
  • Martin Luther King Jr. was right- the GOP is the party of the KKK

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • The Democratic Party is- after all 150 years ago some Democrats may have been involved.

    Votes: 3 30.0%
  • Both parties are the parties of the KKK

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    10
Technically, it was the Dem party. But I agree with your opinion OP.

No, it wasn't. There's no evidence the six founders had any political affiliation at all. For that matter there's also no evidence that Simmons, who started the 1915 Klan, had any either.

To the main point of the OP ---- if the Klan can be said to have any political party forebear it would be the Know Nothings of the 1840s-1850s, who were staunch anti-immigrant nativists. And violent. Their rallying cry of "100% Americanism" was picked up verbatim by the much larger Klan of the 20th century.


Yes...keep selling that to the democrats...to claim that former confederate officers would not have been voting for and part of the democrat party is simply ridiculous....

Tell us...did they vote Republican?

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


No moron...I am against the two provisions of the act that are unconstitutional......the one that is being used to keep racism alive and the other to attack the 1st amendment rights of Americans.......there should be no discrimination in government at all......but private property rights need to be maintained.......

The democrat party is the party of racism..they are obsessed with it and exploit race to achieve their power.
 
Technically, it was the Dem party. But I agree with your opinion OP.

No, it wasn't. There's no evidence the six founders had any political affiliation at all. For that matter there's also no evidence that Simmons, who started the 1915 Klan, had any either.

To the main point of the OP ---- if the Klan can be said to have any political party forebear it would be the Know Nothings of the 1840s-1850s, who were staunch anti-immigrant nativists. And violent. Their rallying cry of "100% Americanism" was picked up verbatim by the much larger Klan of the 20th century.


Yes...keep selling that to the democrats...to claim that former confederate officers would not have been voting for and part of the democrat party is simply ridiculous....

Tell us...did they vote Republican?

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


No moron.....I am an American conservative...we don't believe in using skin color to determine how we treat other human beings...that is what the democrats do.
 
It's right there in the first line --- "formed as a social club by a group of Confederate Army veterans". Want their names? Again?

  • Capt. John B. Kennedy
  • Capt. John Lester
  • James Crowe
  • Frank McCord
  • Richard Reed
  • Calvin Jones

NONE had any known political affiliation or activity. Nor would they be likely to --- they were all in their twenties at the time.

By 1867 those six were long gone, the concept having spread to various vigilante groups around the area who were already active even before the Civil War, as "slave patrols" (a/k/a "night riders" or "regulators") who were a kind of self-appointed vigilante police force. Moreover when such elements organized in any kind of formality there were at least two dozen of them. I can list them too, and already have. These elements were what the Klan became -- but the original six had nothing to do with it.

1867 was when they organized (in Nashville) and came up with the 'white supremacy' mission. The original founders had no such concept.
Dressed in robes and sheets, intended to prevent identification by the occupying federal troops (and supposedly designed to frighten blacks), the Klan quickly became a terrorist organization in service of the Democratic Party and white supremacy.

Yes, I can read that even without boldface. That's a writer's opinion (Eric Foner) about some of the effect of what they did. That's not the same thing as describing an entity controlled by a political party --- of which there's, again, no evidence.

And I don't own the Foner book and have never seen the context that sets up the statement, but I strongly suspect he's talking specifically about the political effect, when their actions involved elections and voting, in that some of their victims would have been Republicans. But it's a leap to conclude they took those actions because they were Republicans. Rather, we know they persecuted blacks in general who had broken an imaginary ''social code" --- or for sheer intimidation; we know they also persecuted "carpetbaggers", which were commercial opportunists from the North, that they attacked the federal personnel themselves, and that they even attacked local philandering husbands, drunks, debt deadbeats, even people who weren't sufficiently visible at Church, none of which served no political party's interests at all.

Again they saw (and sold) themselves as a social force, keeping "order" in postwar chaos, preserving traditions they couldn't deal with giving up, and resisting forces they saw as "interlopers", whether they were federal troops, carpetbaggers or political activists. Some of it served in effect to sabotage elections, some of it was unrelated.

But again there's no evidence it was controlled by a political party. For most of the period of the first Klan it wasn't controlled by anyone --- it was a disparate gaggle of similarly-oriented groups, and again one of dozens of such groups that existed in various degrees of extremity.

In April of 1867 when the these disparate coalesced in Nashville seeking organization they drafted Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest as a figurehead to cash in on the status of his name as a respected military figure to attain a 'legitimacy'. Forrest wasn't present, but when notified did not decline, and the Klan was organized for the first time. That lasted less than two years, until January 1869 when Forrest issued his first (and only) General Order, dissolving the Klan and ordering its regalia destroyed. Many of those disparate groups ignored that order and continued for roughly five more years in the autonomous fashion they had used previously.
Dressed in robes and sheets, intended to prevent identification by the occupying federal troops (and supposedly designed to frighten blacks), the Klan quickly became a terrorist organization in service of the Democratic Party and white supremacy.

Martin Luther King Jr. talking of the GOP:

The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


MLK went with the racist LBJ, instead of Barry Goldwater, the civil rights leader....
.

By our standards, LBJ probably was a racist- and so was Abraham Lincoln.

But LBJ did more for Civil Rights and minorities during his presidency than any prior President- and any subsequent President.

Including the 1964 Civil Rights Act that you despise.
How LBJ Saved the Civil Rights Act

The Voting Rights Act.
The 1968 Civil Rights Act.

All opposed by Ronald Reagan- all passed by Lyndon Johnson.

Nominated the first African American Supreme Court Justice.

Forced J. Edgar Hoover to crush the KKK


No wonder you despise LBJ.
 
No, it wasn't. There's no evidence the six founders had any political affiliation at all. For that matter there's also no evidence that Simmons, who started the 1915 Klan, had any either.

To the main point of the OP ---- if the Klan can be said to have any political party forebear it would be the Know Nothings of the 1840s-1850s, who were staunch anti-immigrant nativists. And violent. Their rallying cry of "100% Americanism" was picked up verbatim by the much larger Klan of the 20th century.


Yes...keep selling that to the democrats...to claim that former confederate officers would not have been voting for and part of the democrat party is simply ridiculous....

Tell us...did they vote Republican?

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


No moron...I am against the two provisions of the act that are unconstitutional.....

You are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

And 1964 was the year the GOP pivoted away from Civil Rights.

As MLK noted.
 
No, it wasn't. There's no evidence the six founders had any political affiliation at all. For that matter there's also no evidence that Simmons, who started the 1915 Klan, had any either.

To the main point of the OP ---- if the Klan can be said to have any political party forebear it would be the Know Nothings of the 1840s-1850s, who were staunch anti-immigrant nativists. And violent. Their rallying cry of "100% Americanism" was picked up verbatim by the much larger Klan of the 20th century.


Yes...keep selling that to the democrats...to claim that former confederate officers would not have been voting for and part of the democrat party is simply ridiculous....

Tell us...did they vote Republican?

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


No moron.....I am an American conservative...we don't believe in using skin color to determine how we treat other human beings.

LOL- yet who do you judge because of the color of their skin?
President Obama
Martin Luther King Jr.
The NAACP
La Raza

Is there any group that supports civil rights for minorities that you don't judge because of color?

Not that I have seen.
 
Technically, it was the Dem party. But I agree with your opinion OP.

No, it wasn't. There's no evidence the six founders had any political affiliation at all. For that matter there's also no evidence that Simmons, who started the 1915 Klan, had any either.

To the main point of the OP ---- if the Klan can be said to have any political party forebear it would be the Know Nothings of the 1840s-1850s, who were staunch anti-immigrant nativists. And violent. Their rallying cry of "100% Americanism" was picked up verbatim by the much larger Klan of the 20th century.


Yes...keep selling that to the democrats...to claim that former confederate officers would not have been voting for and part of the democrat party is simply ridiculous....

Tell us...did they vote Republican?

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Goldwater treated all people the same. As a private citizen, he flew mercy missions to Navaho reservations, never asking for recognition or accepting payment. He felt that “the red man seemed as much—if not more—a part of Arizona and America as any white or black person.”[20] Moreover, a few weeks after Goldwater was discharged from the Army in November 1945, Democratic Arizona Governor Sidney Preston Osborn asked him to organize the Arizona Air National Guard. One of Goldwater’s first recommendations, soon approved, was to desegregate the unit. Goldwater’s integration of the state’s Air National Guard took place more than two years before President Harry Truman integrated the U.S. armed forces.

Goldwater was an early member of the Arizona chapters of both the NAACP and the National Urban League, even making up the latter’s operating deficit when it was getting started. Later as a Senator, he desegregated the Senate cafeteria in 1953, demanding that his black legislative assistant, Kathrine Maxwell, be served along with every other Senate employee after learning she had been denied service.

In the mid-1970s, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, investigating improper operations of the intelligence community in the United States, proposed that transcripts of the FBI tapes about Martin Luther King Jr.’s alleged indiscretions be published. An outraged Goldwater declared he would not be a party to destroying King’s reputation and strode out of the committee room. A fellow Senator recalled that Goldwater’s protest “injected some common sense into the proceedings,” and the electronic surveillance transcripts were not released.[21]

That his opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was based on constitutional grounds and not political considerations was underscored in the final week of the fall campaign. Speaking in Columbia, South Carolina, Goldwater condemned segregation and declared that government must treat “all men as equal in the arena of law and civil order.”[22] He pledged if elected President to implement all provisions of the act. His forthright pro-civil rights speech was televised on 87 stations throughout the S
outh.
 
It's right there in the first line --- "formed as a social club by a group of Confederate Army veterans". Want their names? Again?

  • Capt. John B. Kennedy
  • Capt. John Lester
  • James Crowe
  • Frank McCord
  • Richard Reed
  • Calvin Jones

NONE had any known political affiliation or activity. Nor would they be likely to --- they were all in their twenties at the time.

By 1867 those six were long gone, the concept having spread to various vigilante groups around the area who were already active even before the Civil War, as "slave patrols" (a/k/a "night riders" or "regulators") who were a kind of self-appointed vigilante police force. Moreover when such elements organized in any kind of formality there were at least two dozen of them. I can list them too, and already have. These elements were what the Klan became -- but the original six had nothing to do with it.

1867 was when they organized (in Nashville) and came up with the 'white supremacy' mission. The original founders had no such concept.
Dressed in robes and sheets, intended to prevent identification by the occupying federal troops (and supposedly designed to frighten blacks), the Klan quickly became a terrorist organization in service of the Democratic Party and white supremacy.

Yes, I can read that even without boldface. That's a writer's opinion (Eric Foner) about some of the effect of what they did. That's not the same thing as describing an entity controlled by a political party --- of which there's, again, no evidence.

And I don't own the Foner book and have never seen the context that sets up the statement, but I strongly suspect he's talking specifically about the political effect, when their actions involved elections and voting, in that some of their victims would have been Republicans. But it's a leap to conclude they took those actions because they were Republicans. Rather, we know they persecuted blacks in general who had broken an imaginary ''social code" --- or for sheer intimidation; we know they also persecuted "carpetbaggers", which were commercial opportunists from the North, that they attacked the federal personnel themselves, and that they even attacked local philandering husbands, drunks, debt deadbeats, even people who weren't sufficiently visible at Church, none of which served no political party's interests at all.

Again they saw (and sold) themselves as a social force, keeping "order" in postwar chaos, preserving traditions they couldn't deal with giving up, and resisting forces they saw as "interlopers", whether they were federal troops, carpetbaggers or political activists. Some of it served in effect to sabotage elections, some of it was unrelated.

But again there's no evidence it was controlled by a political party. For most of the period of the first Klan it wasn't controlled by anyone --- it was a disparate gaggle of similarly-oriented groups, and again one of dozens of such groups that existed in various degrees of extremity.

In April of 1867 when the these disparate coalesced in Nashville seeking organization they drafted Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest as a figurehead to cash in on the status of his name as a respected military figure to attain a 'legitimacy'. Forrest wasn't present, but when notified did not decline, and the Klan was organized for the first time. That lasted less than two years, until January 1869 when Forrest issued his first (and only) General Order, dissolving the Klan and ordering its regalia destroyed. Many of those disparate groups ignored that order and continued for roughly five more years in the autonomous fashion they had used previously.
Dressed in robes and sheets, intended to prevent identification by the occupying federal troops (and supposedly designed to frighten blacks), the Klan quickly became a terrorist organization in service of the Democratic Party and white supremacy.


And Barry Goldwater....who was an actual Civil Rights leader....

Yeah- unlike that Martin Luther King guy you call a fool and a sell out.

Barry Goldwater- remember when he marched on Selma?
 
No, it wasn't. There's no evidence the six founders had any political affiliation at all. For that matter there's also no evidence that Simmons, who started the 1915 Klan, had any either.

To the main point of the OP ---- if the Klan can be said to have any political party forebear it would be the Know Nothings of the 1840s-1850s, who were staunch anti-immigrant nativists. And violent. Their rallying cry of "100% Americanism" was picked up verbatim by the much larger Klan of the 20th century.


Yes...keep selling that to the democrats...to claim that former confederate officers would not have been voting for and part of the democrat party is simply ridiculous....

Tell us...did they vote Republican?

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Martin Luther King Jr. - who you have called a fool and a sell out- noted that your party in 1964 became the party of the KKK

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right
 
Yes...keep selling that to the democrats...to claim that former confederate officers would not have been voting for and part of the democrat party is simply ridiculous....

Tell us...did they vote Republican?

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


No moron.....I am an American conservative...we don't believe in using skin color to determine how we treat other human beings.

LOL- yet who do you judge because of the color of their skin?
President Obama
Martin Luther King Jr.
The NAACP
La Raza

Is there any group that supports civil rights for minorities that you don't judge because of color?

Not that I have seen.


No moron......I judge Obama as a left wing racist...la Raza and the NAACP as racist organizations...who put race ahead of everything else...that is what democrats do because they are racists....

I don't judge any group based on skin color......I judge them on their attitude toward human beings.....


If they are racist...like la raza and the NAACP they are not worthy of respect....racism is what democrats want and use....not me.
 
Yes...keep selling that to the democrats...to claim that former confederate officers would not have been voting for and part of the democrat party is simply ridiculous....

Tell us...did they vote Republican?

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Martin Luther King Jr. - who you have called a fool and a sell out- noted that your party in 1964 became the party of the KKK

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


You can post that over and over.......it doesn't change the fact that if what you posted is accurate...he went with the democrat racist over the civil rights leader Barry Goldwater......
 
Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Martin Luther King Jr. - who you have called a fool and a sell out- noted that your party in 1964 became the party of the KKK

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


You can post that over and over.......it doesn't change the fact that if what you posted is accurate...he went with the democrat racist over the civil rights leader Barry Goldwater......

There was no "racist", Democrat or Republican, running that year. George Wallace had offered to switch parties to be Goldwater's running mate but the latter declined, and Wallace put off his aspirations until the next Presidential cycle when he ran with a far-right California party called the American Independent Party.

But the Democrat in 1964 was Lyndon Johnson...

Johnson and his chief political strategists on the civil rights bill --- Larry O'Brien and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach --- began huddling within days of the assassination. Key to passage, they recognized, would be the civil rights organizations, labor, business, the churches, and the Republican party.

.... On his way to the office on the morning of December 4 [1963]--- the Johnsons were still living at The Elms --- LBJ had his driver swing by and pick up George Meany, who lived nearby. During the ride, Meany promised he would do everything possible to secure support for the civil rights bill from leaders of the AFL-CIO, no small task because the measure covered apprenticeship programs. A day later, LBJ gathered up House Republican Minority Leader Charles Halleck for the trip downtown. Halleck was noncommittal; Johnson made it plain that he was going to hold the GOP's feet to the fire on civil rights: "I'm going to lay it on the line ... now you're either for civil rights or you're not ... you're either the party of Lincoln or you're not --- By God, put up or shut up."15 ---- LBJ: Architect of American Ambition, pp. 470-471

.Not the topic here, but relevant to that topic, Johnson was also the first POTUS since Grant to prosecute the Klan.
 
And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Martin Luther King Jr. - who you have called a fool and a sell out- noted that your party in 1964 became the party of the KKK

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


You can post that over and over.......it doesn't change the fact that if what you posted is accurate...he went with the democrat racist over the civil rights leader Barry Goldwater......

There was no "racist", Democrat or Republican, running that year. George Wallace had offered to switch parties to be Goldwater's running mate but the latter declined, and Wallace put off his aspirations until the next Presidential cycle when he ran with a far-right California party called the American Independent Party.

But the Democrat in 1964 was Lyndon Johnson...

Johnson and his chief political strategists on the civil rights bill --- Larry O'Brien and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach --- began huddling within days of the assassination. Key to passage, they recognized, would be the civil rights organizations, labor, business, the churches, and the Republican party.

.... On his way to the office on the morning of December 4 [1963]--- the Johnsons were still living at The Elms --- LBJ had his driver swing by and pick up George Meany, who lived nearby. During the ride, Meany promised he would do everything possible to secure support for the civil rights bill from leaders of the AFL-CIO, no small task because the measure covered apprenticeship programs. A day later, LBJ gathered up House Republican Minority Leader Charles Halleck for the trip downtown. Halleck was noncommittal; Johnson made it plain that he was going to hold the GOP's feet to the fire on civil rights: "I'm going to lay it on the line ... now you're either for civil rights or you're not ... you're either the party of Lincoln or you're not --- By God, put up or shut up."15 ---- LBJ: Architect of American Ambition, pp. 470-471

.Not the topic here, but relevant to that topic, Johnson was also the first POTUS since Grant to prosecute the Klan.


That is how he spun it moron......considering he voted against every single Civil Rights act for the first 20 years he was in congress....and then when he realized that no matter how many blacks his party murdered they were still going to get the vote....then he changed....he even voted against the anti-lynching laws.....

He knew that a lot of Republicans who believed in limited government were opposed to two provisions in the 1964 act....and he used that to pretend to support Civil Rights....Barry Goldwater voted for every single Civil Rights act and was a leader in civil rights......and he voted against it because it promoted racism, and violated private property rights.....his opposition had nothing to do with race or an objection to Civil Rights.......

So you guys keep lying about it...we have the internet now to show that you are lying....


NPR Wrong on Goldwater '64, Civil Rights, Say 4 Who Were There

As for the Republican nominee's position on the Civil Rights Act, Goldwater had said he would vote for passage if Section II on public accommodations and Section VII on equal employment opportunity were removed. With his view reinforced by a detailed memorandum from Phoenix lawyer and future Chief Justice William Rehnquist, Goldwater felt these sections were unconstitutional, were unenforceable without a federal police force, and would lead to the creation of racial quotas and affirmative action.


"He was absolutely right about [the two sections of the Civil Rights Act] and they did lead to precisely what Goldwater and most conservatives were afraid of," said Tom Winter, then executive editor of Human Events, who would join Ryskind as its co-owner a year later. As for the "extremism in the defense of liberty" speech, Winter recalled watching it from a San Francisco restaurant "and cheering it because it was clearly about freedom and fighting communism. I certainly didn't think it had anything to do with race."

Breaking News at Newsmax.com NPR Wrong on Goldwater '64, Civil Rights, Say 4 Who Were There
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And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Martin Luther King Jr. - who you have called a fool and a sell out- noted that your party in 1964 became the party of the KKK

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


You can post that over and over.......it doesn't change the fact that if what you posted is accurate...he went with the democrat racist over the civil rights leader Barry Goldwater......

There was no "racist", Democrat or Republican, running that year. George Wallace had offered to switch parties to be Goldwater's running mate but the latter declined, and Wallace put off his aspirations until the next Presidential cycle when he ran with a far-right California party called the American Independent Party.

But the Democrat in 1964 was Lyndon Johnson...

Johnson and his chief political strategists on the civil rights bill --- Larry O'Brien and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach --- began huddling within days of the assassination. Key to passage, they recognized, would be the civil rights organizations, labor, business, the churches, and the Republican party.

.... On his way to the office on the morning of December 4 [1963]--- the Johnsons were still living at The Elms --- LBJ had his driver swing by and pick up George Meany, who lived nearby. During the ride, Meany promised he would do everything possible to secure support for the civil rights bill from leaders of the AFL-CIO, no small task because the measure covered apprenticeship programs. A day later, LBJ gathered up House Republican Minority Leader Charles Halleck for the trip downtown. Halleck was noncommittal; Johnson made it plain that he was going to hold the GOP's feet to the fire on civil rights: "I'm going to lay it on the line ... now you're either for civil rights or you're not ... you're either the party of Lincoln or you're not --- By God, put up or shut up."15 ---- LBJ: Architect of American Ambition, pp. 470-471

.Not the topic here, but relevant to that topic, Johnson was also the first POTUS since Grant to prosecute the Klan.


He wanted power...even if that meant voting for Black Civil Rights.......considering when he was free from Presidential aspirations he voted against every single Civil Rights act and the Anti-lynching law.......
 
Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Martin Luther King Jr. - who you have called a fool and a sell out- noted that your party in 1964 became the party of the KKK

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


You can post that over and over.......it doesn't change the fact that if what you posted is accurate...he went with the democrat racist over the civil rights leader Barry Goldwater......

No- he went with the racist Civil Rights leader- LBJ.

LBJ passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the voting rights Act, the 1968 Civil Rights Act, appointed the first African American Supreme Court Justice and prosecuted the clan.

Barry Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Which is of course why the Republicans chose him as their candidate.
 
Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr.


And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


No moron.....I am an American conservative...we don't believe in using skin color to determine how we treat other human beings.

LOL- yet who do you judge because of the color of their skin?
President Obama
Martin Luther King Jr.
The NAACP
La Raza

Is there any group that supports civil rights for minorities that you don't judge because of color?

Not that I have seen.


No moron......I judge Obama as a left wing racist...la Raza and the NAACP as racist organizations...

Yep- its just a coincidence that everyone you consider to be racists today are people of color.

In 1915 you would have been marching with the Klan.
 
Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Martin Luther King Jr. - who you have called a fool and a sell out- noted that your party in 1964 became the party of the KKK

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


You can post that over and over.......it doesn't change the fact that if what you posted is accurate...he went with the democrat racist over the civil rights leader Barry Goldwater......

There was no "racist", Democrat or Republican, running that year. George Wallace had offered to switch parties to be Goldwater's running mate but the latter declined, and Wallace put off his aspirations until the next Presidential cycle when he ran with a far-right California party called the American Independent Party.

But the Democrat in 1964 was Lyndon Johnson...

Johnson and his chief political strategists on the civil rights bill --- Larry O'Brien and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach --- began huddling within days of the assassination. Key to passage, they recognized, would be the civil rights organizations, labor, business, the churches, and the Republican party.

.... On his way to the office on the morning of December 4 [1963]--- the Johnsons were still living at The Elms --- LBJ had his driver swing by and pick up George Meany, who lived nearby. During the ride, Meany promised he would do everything possible to secure support for the civil rights bill from leaders of the AFL-CIO, no small task because the measure covered apprenticeship programs. A day later, LBJ gathered up House Republican Minority Leader Charles Halleck for the trip downtown. Halleck was noncommittal; Johnson made it plain that he was going to hold the GOP's feet to the fire on civil rights: "I'm going to lay it on the line ... now you're either for civil rights or you're not ... you're either the party of Lincoln or you're not --- By God, put up or shut up."15 ---- LBJ: Architect of American Ambition, pp. 470-471

.Not the topic here, but relevant to that topic, Johnson was also the first POTUS since Grant to prosecute the Klan.


He wanted power...even if that meant voting for Black Civil Rights.......considering when he was free from Presidential aspirations he voted against every single Civil Rights act and the Anti-lynching law.......

No, I don't think there was a time in LBJ's life, until 1969 when he left office, that he was 'free from Presidential aspirations' at first from a distance and significantly as Senate Majority Leader when he navigated an earlier civil rights bill through in 1957, a political coup that significantly enhanced his reputation nationally --- and put him in the Presidential candidate conversation --- while simultaneously earning sentiments of "betrayal" from the South -- an adept chicanery that's spelled out in detail in the Woods book I just quoted as well as in Doris Kearns Goodwin's biography.


Barry Goldwater voted for every single Civil Rights act and was a leader in civil rights......and he voted against it because it promoted racism, and violated private property rights

You're actually gonna try to plant your flag on "he was for it before he was against it" huh? :lol:

:dig:

/offtopic
 
And this is why Goldwater correctly voted against the 1964 Civil Rights act !

Not surprised that you are against the 1964 Civil Rights Act also.

Quoting another in the long line of African Americans you dislike:

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


I think it is telling that those who insist on calling the modern Democratic Party the party of the KKK not incidentally also despise the icon of African American civil rights- Martin Luther King Jr

Of course your party then went on to elect two Presidents who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act
Ronald Reagan and George Bush.

The claim that either party is the party of the KKK in the modern context of course is just your stupid racist partisanship.

Who understands racism better? A bitter old white man who thinks pretty much every civil rights organization is racist?

Or Martin Luther King Jr.?

If you were living in 1915- you would be a member of the klan.


Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Martin Luther King Jr. - who you have called a fool and a sell out- noted that your party in 1964 became the party of the KKK

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


You can post that over and over.......it doesn't change the fact that if what you posted is accurate...he went with the democrat racist over the civil rights leader Barry Goldwater......

No- he went with the racist Civil Rights leader- LBJ.

LBJ passed the 1964 Civil Rights Act, the voting rights Act, the 1968 Civil Rights Act, appointed the first African American Supreme Court Justice and prosecuted the clan.

Barry Goldwater voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Which is of course why the Republicans chose him as their candidate.


Yes...you are a troll.....again......Barry Goldwater, Civil Rights leader....and the guy who helped protect Martin Luther King Jr.

Goldwater treated all people the same. As a private citizen, he flew mercy missions to Navaho reservations, never asking for recognition or accepting payment. He felt that “the red man seemed as much—if not more—a part of Arizona and America as any white or black person.”[20] Moreover, a few weeks after Goldwater was discharged from the Army in November 1945, Democratic Arizona Governor Sidney Preston Osborn asked him to organize the Arizona Air National Guard. One of Goldwater’s first recommendations, soon approved, was to desegregate the unit. Goldwater’s integration of the state’s Air National Guard took place more than two years before President Harry Truman integrated the U.S. armed forces.

Goldwater was an early member of the Arizona chapters of both the NAACP and the National Urban League, even making up the latter’s operating deficit when it was getting started. Later as a Senator, he desegregated the Senate cafeteria in 1953, demanding that his black legislative assistant, Kathrine Maxwell, be served along with every other Senate employee after learning she had been denied service.

In the mid-1970s, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee, investigating improper operations of the intelligence community in the United States, proposed that transcripts of the FBI tapes about Martin Luther King Jr.’s alleged indiscretions be published. An outraged Goldwater declared he would not be a party to destroying King’s reputation and strode out of the committee room. A fellow Senator recalled that Goldwater’s protest “injected some common sense into the proceedings,” and the electronic surveillance transcripts were not released.[21]

That his opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was based on constitutional grounds and not political considerations was underscored in the final week of the fall campaign. Speaking in Columbia, South Carolina, Goldwater condemned segregation and declared that government must treat “all men as equal in the arena of law and civil order.”[22] He pledged if elected President to implement all provisions of the act. His forthright pro-civil rights speech was televised on 87 stations throughout the South.
 
Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Martin Luther King Jr. - who you have called a fool and a sell out- noted that your party in 1964 became the party of the KKK

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


You can post that over and over.......it doesn't change the fact that if what you posted is accurate...he went with the democrat racist over the civil rights leader Barry Goldwater......

There was no "racist", Democrat or Republican, running that year. George Wallace had offered to switch parties to be Goldwater's running mate but the latter declined, and Wallace put off his aspirations until the next Presidential cycle when he ran with a far-right California party called the American Independent Party.

But the Democrat in 1964 was Lyndon Johnson...

Johnson and his chief political strategists on the civil rights bill --- Larry O'Brien and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach --- began huddling within days of the assassination. Key to passage, they recognized, would be the civil rights organizations, labor, business, the churches, and the Republican party.

.... On his way to the office on the morning of December 4 [1963]--- the Johnsons were still living at The Elms --- LBJ had his driver swing by and pick up George Meany, who lived nearby. During the ride, Meany promised he would do everything possible to secure support for the civil rights bill from leaders of the AFL-CIO, no small task because the measure covered apprenticeship programs. A day later, LBJ gathered up House Republican Minority Leader Charles Halleck for the trip downtown. Halleck was noncommittal; Johnson made it plain that he was going to hold the GOP's feet to the fire on civil rights: "I'm going to lay it on the line ... now you're either for civil rights or you're not ... you're either the party of Lincoln or you're not --- By God, put up or shut up."15 ---- LBJ: Architect of American Ambition, pp. 470-471

.Not the topic here, but relevant to that topic, Johnson was also the first POTUS since Grant to prosecute the Klan.


He wanted power...even if that meant voting for Black Civil Rights.......considering when he was free from Presidential aspirations he voted against every single Civil Rights act and the Anti-lynching law.......

No, I don't think there was a time in LBJ's life, until 1969 when he left office, that he was 'free from Presidential aspirations' at first from a distance and significantly as Senate Majority Leader when he navigated an earlier civil rights bill through in 1957, a political coup that significantly enhanced his reputation nationally --- and put him in the Presidential candidate conversation --- while simultaneously earning sentiments of "betrayal" from the South -- an adept chicanery that's spelled out in detail in the Woods book I just quoted as well as in Doris Kearns Goodwin's biography.


Barry Goldwater voted for every single Civil Rights act and was a leader in civil rights......and he voted against it because it promoted racism, and violated private property rights

You're actually gonna try to plant your flag on "he was for it before he was against it" huh? :lol:

:dig:

/offtopic


Shit head......you have seen my link, you saw what Goldwater did and what he thought about the 64 act, affirmitive action and public accomodation, one racist, the other an invasion of personal property rights, they went to far.....he was a civil rights leader, LBJ was a racist opportunist....

moron...
 
Martin Luther King sided with the racist, LBJ and the democrats, according to you....over this man....

Martin Luther King Jr. - who you have called a fool and a sell out- noted that your party in 1964 became the party of the KKK

Martin Luther King Jr.
The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of goodwill viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right


You can post that over and over.......it doesn't change the fact that if what you posted is accurate...he went with the democrat racist over the civil rights leader Barry Goldwater......

There was no "racist", Democrat or Republican, running that year. George Wallace had offered to switch parties to be Goldwater's running mate but the latter declined, and Wallace put off his aspirations until the next Presidential cycle when he ran with a far-right California party called the American Independent Party.

But the Democrat in 1964 was Lyndon Johnson...

Johnson and his chief political strategists on the civil rights bill --- Larry O'Brien and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach --- began huddling within days of the assassination. Key to passage, they recognized, would be the civil rights organizations, labor, business, the churches, and the Republican party.

.... On his way to the office on the morning of December 4 [1963]--- the Johnsons were still living at The Elms --- LBJ had his driver swing by and pick up George Meany, who lived nearby. During the ride, Meany promised he would do everything possible to secure support for the civil rights bill from leaders of the AFL-CIO, no small task because the measure covered apprenticeship programs. A day later, LBJ gathered up House Republican Minority Leader Charles Halleck for the trip downtown. Halleck was noncommittal; Johnson made it plain that he was going to hold the GOP's feet to the fire on civil rights: "I'm going to lay it on the line ... now you're either for civil rights or you're not ... you're either the party of Lincoln or you're not --- By God, put up or shut up."15 ---- LBJ: Architect of American Ambition, pp. 470-471

.Not the topic here, but relevant to that topic, Johnson was also the first POTUS since Grant to prosecute the Klan.


He wanted power...even if that meant voting for Black Civil Rights.......considering when he was free from Presidential aspirations he voted against every single Civil Rights act and the Anti-lynching law.......

No, I don't think there was a time in LBJ's life, until 1969 when he left office, that he was 'free from Presidential aspirations' at first from a distance and significantly as Senate Majority Leader when he navigated an earlier civil rights bill through in 1957, a political coup that significantly enhanced his reputation nationally --- and put him in the Presidential candidate conversation --- while simultaneously earning sentiments of "betrayal" from the South -- an adept chicanery that's spelled out in detail in the Woods book I just quoted as well as in Doris Kearns Goodwin's biography.


Barry Goldwater voted for every single Civil Rights act and was a leader in civil rights......and he voted against it because it promoted racism, and violated private property rights

You're actually gonna try to plant your flag on "he was for it before he was against it" huh? :lol:

:dig:

/offtopic


And here...again...since you are too stupid to understand....


NPR Wrong on Goldwater '64, Civil Rights, Say 4 Who Were There

As for the Republican nominee's position on the Civil Rights Act, Goldwater had said he would vote for passage if Section II on public accommodations and Section VII on equal employment opportunity were removed. With his view reinforced by a detailed memorandum from Phoenix lawyer and future Chief Justice William Rehnquist, Goldwater felt these sections were unconstitutional, were unenforceable without a federal police force, and would lead to the creation of racial quotas and affirmative action.


"He was absolutely right about [the two sections of the Civil Rights Act] and they did lead to precisely what Goldwater and most conservatives were afraid of," said Tom Winter, then executive editor of Human Events, who would join Ryskind as its co-owner a year later. As for the "extremism in the defense of liberty" speech, Winter recalled watching it from a San Francisco restaurant "and cheering it because it was clearly about freedom and fighting communism. I certainly didn't think it had anything to do with race."

Br
 
No moron...

No moron.....

No moron......

That is how he spun it moron......

Shit head..........

moron...

again...since you are too stupid to understand....

I'm gonna lay this down once, after which you get sent to the Principal's office. From the CDZ Rules and Guidelines:

No Name Calling Or Putting Down Posters
No Trolling and/or Troll Threads
No Hijacking

No Personal Attacks

Oh and you're also off the topic with most if not all of these posts.
 

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