Which is the more Conservative, really?

Far as I'm concerned.... whether they're conservative or liberal... they all say what you want to hear just for them to get "in"...
 
Problem i have with newt is too many flipflops,inconsistancy,and the morals of a pig. You have to have values,morals,charactor,and set an example of those values to be a true leader.

I don't care that he's a serial adulterer, I care about his 'vision' for this country.

Alvin Toffler is not the guy I want influencing the POTUS.

And agreed. His vision changes wirh opportunity,for himself. Too much an opportunist to have a core strategy to set in pkace.
 
Santorum needs to make a stronger presence,though.

Should he run across the debate stage naked???

Its not his fault everyone is talking about Romney and Gingrich beating eachother up.

Santorum has been trying to keep the debates on topic, but those two assclowns keep throwing shit at eachother.
They are making a mockery of the GOP.
 
Jim, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Newtie isn't exactly a Conservative. If you want to know what kind of anti-American, globalist POS he is, I'll go bump the thread I started "Newt Gingrich - NWO shill"

He's a Trojan Horse, Jim, I ain't kidding!

Bullshit. Gingrich has poked the NWO people in the eye so many times its stupid.

That is why the GOP establishment said nothing while the Dems ran a kangaroo court ruling against Newt on things the IRS cleared him on. For Christ's sake, if the IRS clears you of tax fraud, the only ones left still acusing are ideological whores and paid liars.

BTW,, your join date is Jan 2012?

lol, astroturfing poseur
NWO = New World Order

My join date is what it is. You don't have to believe me, but you need to do your own research so you can see for yourself what I'm talking about. The links are in the thread, and you really should read them. Alvin Toffler is like a guru to Newt, and Newt even made Toffler's book 'The Third Wave' required reading in his college class. In that book Toffler lays out his thoughts on the end of American sovereignty and the rise of a "supranational authority" to replace it.

Newt calls this guy a GENIUS.

Toffler simply described what he thought was coming, not what he prefered to see happen, and he has been pretty damned acurate on his predictions too.

Alvin Toffler - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Dont shoot the messenger, turfer.
 
Santorum needs to make a stronger presence,though.

Should he run across the debate stage naked???

Its not his fault everyone is talking about Romney and Gingrich beating eachother up.

Santorum has been trying to keep the debates on topic, but those two assclowns keep throwing shit at eachother.
They are making a mockery of the GOP.

Lolololololololol agreed.:tongue:
 
Lived in mass at the time. He made budget profits by not cutting socislist programs,but raising certain state fees drastically,and then the socialized medicine.

What do you think the odds are that he will raise taxes on us if he were to win the Presidency?

Honestly, that is the only saving grace when it comes to Romney. He probably would raise taxes to increase revenue. But that I'm not even sure of anymore. He seems to think the federal government can be run on revenues totaling 13.9% of GDP or less, since that is all he pays in taxes. Either that or he thinks he can raise taxes on everyone else while leaving the wealthiest Americans paying under 15%.

The first time they earned it and were taxed on it, they DID NOT pay 15%.... your lying or your ignorant and need to be quiet.
 
Santorum needs to make a stronger presence,though.

Should he run across the debate stage naked???

Its not his fault everyone is talking about Romney and Gingrich beating eachother up.

Santorum has been trying to keep the debates on topic, but those two assclowns keep throwing shit at eachother.
They are making a mockery of the GOP.

Newt tried to stick to the high road but Romney's PAC wouldnt let it stay there, and then to cap it all off Romney has played the complete hypocrit by posturing like he had nothing to do with the Super PAC he has attacking everyone from Bachman, to Cain, to Perry and Paul.

So what should Newt have done once Romney released the hounds on him?

Just stand there and let Romney Super PAC rip his gonads off and feed them to him or fight back?
 
Santorum needs to make a stronger presence,though.

Should he run across the debate stage naked???

Its not his fault everyone is talking about Romney and Gingrich beating eachother up.

Santorum has been trying to keep the debates on topic, but those two assclowns keep throwing shit at eachother.
They are making a mockery of the GOP.

Lolololololololol agreed.:tongue:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI-TXC8AEyQ]Ray Stevens - The Streak - YouTube[/ame]
 
Pick Santorum and Obama strolls leisurely back into the WH...

Yeah says you and your crystal ball.

Santorum has had such little exposure that no one really knows how the public would vote for him once he had time to put his message out there.
 
Santorum needs to make a stronger presence,though.

Should he run across the debate stage naked???

Its not his fault everyone is talking about Romney and Gingrich beating eachother up.

Santorum has been trying to keep the debates on topic, but those two assclowns keep throwing shit at eachother.
They are making a mockery of the GOP.

Newt tried to stick to the high road but Romney's PAC wouldnt let it stay there, and then to cap it all off Romney has played the complete hypocrit by posturing like he had nothing to do with the Super PAC he has attacking everyone from Bachman, to Cain, to Perry and Paul.

So what should Newt have done once Romney released the hounds on him?


Just stand there and let Romney Super PAC rip his gonads off and feed them to him or fight back?


He certainly should not have attacked Romney for being a capitalist.
That was just stupid....

My opinion is this.... any of them will do MUCH better than Obama.
 
Pick Santorum and Obama strolls leisurely back into the WH...

Yeah says you and your crystal ball.

Santorum has had such little exposure
that no one really knows how the public would vote for him once he had time to put his message out there.

Well stop pimping Newt and start telling folks about Santorum.

I certainly am.... I tell everbody that will listen to take a good long look at Santorum.
 
RINO's are the socialist left's political infiltrators into the conservative's domain. Romney is at the top of the list those socialist infiltraitors into the conservative camp. And I deffinitely think Newt is running a close second on that list.

Newt has been quoted as saying that, "if you want to understand who I am, just read Alvin Toffler's book The Third Wave". THAT is a huge statement. There is much much more with this Alvin Toffler business and Newt Gringrich that deserves to be scrutinized.

From HotAir.com:

Newt feels we need to rethink our Constitution and is no conservative.

Newt Gingrich: The Consummate Politician and Quintessential Figurehead of the Republican Establishment
~ Cashing In on His Political Connections ~

The same year he became Speaker of the House in 1995 Newt delivered a speech to the Center for Strategic and International Affairs in which he said, “The American challenge in leading the world is compounded by our Constitution… either we are going to have to rethink our Constitution, or we are going to have to rethink our process of making decisions.” This is a direct quote from Newt Gingrich. These are his own words! Newt Gingrich is a fan of author Alvin Toffler, who believes that our American system of government, which was designed by the Founding Fathers, and which is protected by our Constitution, has become obsolete, and needs to be discarded, and re-designed. According to Toffler (and Newt), “It needs to die and be replaced.” Newt once boasted that in order to understand him, you needed to read Toffler’s two books, The Third Wave, and Creating a New Civilization: The Politics of the Third Wave. When Newt Gingrich became Speaker of the House, he recommended reading Toffler’s books to all of his colleagues. He wrote the forward to Toffler’s last book, The Politics of the Third Wave.

Newt Gingrich: Consummate Politician and Progressive Establishment Republican

It was also the same year Newt used a Lame duck session of Congress before the new Republicans could get sworn in to pass GATT turning over power to the UN. And he knew it. “We need to be honest about the fact that we are transferring from the United States..significant authority to a new organization. This is a transformational moment… This is not just another trade agreement. This is a very big transfer of power.” -Newt Gingrich on GATT, 1994.

GATT established a giant beauracracy called the WTO, sole interpreter of 20,000 pages of trade regualtion for 120 nations. It’s not about prosperity, it’s about centralizing Power.

Here’s some background info on GATT, WTO and Newt’s role in working with Bill Clinton. GATT/WTO

Read more: Gingrich: I’m a lot more conservative than Romney — and more electable than anyone else « Hot Air
 
What do you think the odds are that he will raise taxes on us if he were to win the Presidency?

Honestly, that is the only saving grace when it comes to Romney. He probably would raise taxes to increase revenue. But that I'm not even sure of anymore. He seems to think the federal government can be run on revenues totaling 13.9% of GDP or less, since that is all he pays in taxes. Either that or he thinks he can raise taxes on everyone else while leaving the wealthiest Americans paying under 15%.

The first time they earned it and were taxed on it, they DID NOT pay 15%.... your lying or your ignorant and need to be quiet.

Your problem, and the problem with so many like you, is that you try to sell us on the idea that they were already taxed on this money. Well, they were not. If you can't figure this out, then you are truly dumber than a rock. When someone invests and receives a positive return on that investment, they are only taxed on the positive return, not the initial investment. Are you that stupid that you don't understand this? God Damn, it ain't fucking rocket science. As for me being quiet, at least I know what I'm talking about.
 

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