CDZ Which is more important: Unity or Diversity?

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    We were pretty unified after 9/11, everybody was shocked, saddened, and super pissed. But absent a national catastrophe we tend to focus more on our individual problems and interests for ourselves and our families, and there's nothing wrong or unique about that. The problems I see with unity and diversity is when either one goes too far to an extreme; unity gets to be a big problem when it approaches extreme nationalism (nazism, fascism). And diversity gets to be a problem when we cannot tolerate our differences enough to even be civil to each other. There is a strength to each of these things, but also weaknesses and dangers if left uncontrolled.
     
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    I'm of a Polish heritage, and why should I believe that Mexicans are our equals?

    What has Mexico done in the past 30 years in intellectual development, in comparison to Poland?

    Poland has 38 million people, Mexico has 127 million people.

    Poland had in the 20th century millions killed in WW1, WW2, and then Soviet oppression, and what about Mexico?

    So, why should Poland produce more intellectual developments than Mexico?

    Here's a list of some Polish intellectual developments in the past 30 years, and what about Mexico?
    I'd love to see a list of Mexican intellectual developments like this in the past 30 years?

    New Polish recipe for ultra short pulse lasers.

    Incredible recipe for ultra-short laser pulses - it works! | News | Science & Scholarship in Poland

    New Polish invention of chitosan aerogels, which are used for growing various tissues, including human tissue.

    The invention of Kraków scientists can help transplantology | News | Science & Scholarship in Poland

    New Polish invention of the first ever Electric Polymer laser.

    Pioneering polymer laser developed by Polish scientists | News | Science & Scholarship in Poland

    New Polish first ever hand graft surgery on an adult.

    \https://poland.pl/science/achievements-science/university-hospital-wroclaw-first-world-transplant-hand-adult-pa/

    New Polish anti-bacteria 3D printing method.

    Silesian scientists have developed an antibacterial material for 3D printing | News | Science & Scholarship in Poland

    Polish company Zortrax invented the first 3D printing device used to operate on veins.

    Zortrax 3D Printer Used to Improve Varicose Vein Removal Procedure

    Pole behind Natural Killer cells to treat cancer.

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    Polish first bee pollinator robot.

    Poland: Scientists create robot bee to pollinate crops

    Polish invention first ever 3D printing wind turbine generator.

    http://gizmodo.com/how-a-3d-printed-wind-turbine-could-power-your-gadgets-1622921531

    Polish Solaris Bus, behind hybrid bus technology.

    Solaris Bus & Coach - Wikipedia

    Polish type 1 Diabetes vaccine.

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    Polish first device used to detect alcohol before leaving the car.

    New Laser Device May Be A Drunk Driver's Worst Nightmare | The Huffington Post


    Polish first bike with virtually no chain, the Izzy Bike.

    Bicycle without a chain among Polish inventions appreciated abroad | News | Science & Scholarship in Poland

    Polish first cheap, mass produced Graphene Machine.

    Polish scientists develop revolutionary graphene machine

    Polish company Ammono makes the best Gallium Nitride in the World, used in blue laser manufacturing.

    Polish scientists develop revolutionary graphene machine

    Polish company Vigo Systems produced the Infared Sensors used on the Mars Curiosity Rover.

    The World’s Best Gallium Nitride

    Polish Sylwester Porowski pioneered Blue Lasers, which he made the best Blue Lasers of the pioneers.

    Sylwester Porowski - Polish Academy of Sciences

    Polish Paczynski's invention of Microlensing to dIscover more planets, and stars.

    Bohdan Paczynski (1940 - 2007) | American Astronomical Society

    Polish Nikoderm Poplawski behind the theory that every Black Hole contains another Universe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikodem_Popławsk

    Polish Aleksander Wolszczan's discovery of the first Pulsar planets, and planets outside of the Solar System.

    Aleksander Wolszczan - Wikipedia

    Polish Maciej Stachowiak behind many computer software applications.

    Maciej Stachowiak - Wikipedia

    Polish video games like the Witcher the best selling video game of 2015.

    Note there were other high selling Polish video games like Dead Island, Dying Light, Call of Juarez, and Hatred.

    The Witcher 3 is This Year's Best Selling Game So Far

    Polish first emergency face transplant surgery.

    Polish man receives first ‘emergency’ face transplant

    Polish first surgery that used cells to save paralyzed man.

    A paralyzed man walks again after miracle surgery

    Polish first augmented cardiac surgery.

    It's Polish the first cardiac surgery with augmented reality

    Europe's best cardiac physician award to a Pole.

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    Europe's #2 best coders awarded to Poland.
    best coders in the world by country - Bing images

    Polish wins in the IBM Battle of the Brains contest.

    IBM w Polsce International Collegiate Programming Contest

    Polish win in a World coding competition.

    Polish team wins world coding championships with the fastest AI-driven virtual car

    Polish wins in Google Code Jam.

    Google Code Jam - Wikipedia


    Polish wins at the University Rover Challenge.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Univer...over_Challenge

    Polish win at the Google Online Marketing Challenge.

    http://scienceinpoland.pap.pl/en/new...mpetition.html

    Polish win best World building.

    https://www.dezeen.com/2016/11/18/na...ing-year-2016/

    Polish win at the Robot Challenge extravaganza.

    https://www.pgs-soft.com/polish-robo...ational-glory/

    Polish win at the International Mathematical Competition.

    http://scienceinpoland.pap.pl/en/new...mpetition.html

    Polish success in cinema.

    List of Polish Academy Award winners and nominees - Wikipedia
     
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    How about this,

    Poland has a perfectly fine heritage.

    So does Mexico.

    Be proud of your nation's accomplishments and use that pride to guide your family and people in the future.

    Perhaps if Mexico did not have its northern big brother raiding its territory occasionally it would be further along militarily.

    Is The U.S. better than Poland? Perhaps if Poland was not between Russia and Germany it would be where the U.S. is today.

    What matters is you treat any and every Mexican fairly and they treat you fairly and both of you all are treated as equals.
     
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    "What matters is you treat any and every Mexican fairly and they treat you fairly and both of you all are treated as equals."

    Same as everyone else, most people will do right by you if you do right by them. And those that won't or don't come from every racial or ethnic group.
     
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    Diversity Is Perversity, Integration Is Disintegration

    Silence the privileged troublemakers who bombard us with that ruling class tactic of Divide and Conquer.
     
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    Stare Decisis Is For RINOs

    We were only a "Nation of Immigrants" until we became a Nation of Americans. We need a democracy, where the government only allows immigrants whom we demand to be let in. Everybody knows that under majoritarian rule, this cheap-labor invasion never would have happened. Nor would the 1964 Civil Rights for the Uncivilized ever been passed. We determine who can vote, which is a right similar to determining who can immigrate here. The ruling class must be overruled and their decisions nullified, including all that they made for us before without asking us what we wanted first. The enemies of democracy surround us on both sides, but they are soft, cowardly, and outnumbered.
     
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    So your theory is if a country forms and allows immigration from other places it will prevent it from say, becoming a super power?

    I don't understand.
     
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    But, Mexico has a much bigger population than Poland, why isn't Mexico producing the kind of intellect that Poland has been?
     
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    Feralphiles Are Motivated by Jealousy of High IQs

    Mexicans are the Taco Bells of the Bell Curve.
     
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    If the snowflakes who prattle on about "diversity" actually wanted diversity, they would not need "safe spaces", or whine about "microaggressions". They would not be rioting against any thought that did not march in lockstep with their jackbooted political orthodoxy and they would not seek the homogenization of Europe by supporting the E.U. They would not lend themselves to the agenda of Islamists out to wrench all civilization back to the7th century, nor continually support the very antithesis of liberalism.

    As actually practiced "diversity" means that instead of seeking a color-blind society, they want one where color is all that matters, and instead of privileges being assigned to white people, they are assigned to anybody BUT white. They despise liberal, western culture so much that they embrace any primitive one seeking to destroy it.

    It's not diversity they seek. It is power and control over others.
     
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