Which GOP Candidate Would The Founders Support?...

[bigrebnc1775]

When the Right is trying to convince us how many more zillions we need to spend on the military,

it's all about how much the world has changed.

Otherwise, when it suits them, our world is perfectly comparable to the 18th century, and therefore the fat white drunks in powdered wigs are godlike in their wisdom and totally relevant.

The founders would piss on both political party's.

Son, they lived before 1800 and would have very little understanding of what is what now, and how to deal with it.

Son? listen up BOY there is no political party that we have now that the founders would agree with, They would gathers their weapons and do a forced march on D.C.

 

[rightwinger]

The founders would piss on both political party's.

Son, they lived before 1800 and would have very little understanding of what is what now, and how to deal with it.

Son? listen up BOY there is no political party that we have now that the founders would agree with, They would gathers their weapons and do a forced march on D.C.

I doubt if anyone would support the political platform of the whigs and Federalists

 

[paulitician]

Our Founding Fathers fully understood the tyranny of Big Government oppression. They actually experienced it first-hand. Today's America resembles King George's oppressive Monarchy. And it's only getting worse. Big Government is only getting bigger. It's very sad.

 

[The T]

Our Founding Fathers fully understood the tyranny of Big Government oppression. They actually experienced it first-hand. Today's America resembles King George's oppressive Monarchy. And it's only getting worse. Big Government is only getting bigger. It's very sad.

I've often thought that. Oddly? There is a split now as there was during the time of the Founders...1/3 want to fight it, Another third are loyalists, the remainder just want to be left alone to thier own devices and refuse to pay attention.

 

[amrchaos]

According to the time they were alive or according to now?

Back then, Ron Paul. The founders were a bit on the isolationists side.

Now, probably Obama. I say this due to the total mess that the US is in and they are looking for a quick way to reset everything. And that is by going off a very high cliff so that the citizens will have first hand experience on what happens when you are not vigilant about your government.

 

[The T]

The founders would piss on both political party's.

Son, they lived before 1800 and would have very little understanding of what is what now, and how to deal with it.

Son? listen up BOY there is no political party that we have now that the founders would agree with, They would gathers their weapons and do a forced march on D.C.

They would indeed. It seems that trying to reign in government by use of government has no effect...as it was in thier time when the King and the Parliment refused to listen as well to diplomacy...

 

[rightwinger]

Our Founding Fathers fully understood the tyranny of Big Government oppression. They actually experienced it first-hand. Today's America resembles King George's oppressive Monarchy. And it's only getting worse. Big Government is only getting bigger. It's very sad.

The founders had no problem with big government. If they did, they would have prohibited it in the Constitution. As it is, they preferred to allow future generations to have the size of government they required

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Son, they lived before 1800 and would have very little understanding of what is what now, and how to deal with it.

Son? listen up BOY there is no political party that we have now that the founders would agree with, They would gathers their weapons and do a forced march on D.C.

I doubt if anyone would support the political platform of the whigs and Federalists

How much twisting did you have to do toi come up with that shit?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Our Founding Fathers fully understood the tyranny of Big Government oppression. They actually experienced it first-hand. Today's America resembles King George's oppressive Monarchy. And it's only getting worse. Big Government is only getting bigger. It's very sad.

The founders had no problem with big government. If they did, they would have prohibited it in the Constitution. As it is, they preferred to allow future generations to have the size of government they required

That is the biggest lie you have told here to date.

 

[The T]

When it comes down to it? They'd see thier work royally fucked up by all...and would order a re-do.

 

[rightwinger]

Our Founding Fathers fully understood the tyranny of Big Government oppression. They actually experienced it first-hand. Today's America resembles King George's oppressive Monarchy. And it's only getting worse. Big Government is only getting bigger. It's very sad.

The founders had no problem with big government. If they did, they would have prohibited it in the Constitution. As it is, they preferred to allow future generations to have the size of government they required

That is the biggest lie you have told here to date.

In words etched in marble in the Jefferson Memorial..


. I am not an advocate for frequent changes in laws and constitutions, but laws and institutions must go hand in hand with the progress of the human mind. As that becomes more developed, more enlightened, as new discoveries are made, new truths discovered and manners and opinions change, with the change of circumstances, institutions must advance also to keep pace with the times. We might as well require a man to wear still the coat which fitted him when a boy as civilized society to remain ever under the regimen of their barbarous ancestors.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The founders would piss on both political party's.

Son, they lived before 1800 and would have very little understanding of what is what now, and how to deal with it.

Son? listen up BOY there is no political party that we have now that the founders would agree with, They would gathers their weapons and do a forced march on D.C.

Then grow up and act like a grown up. The founders would have been dismayed that minorities and women shared power, that lower economic classes did not defer to them.

But. . . march on DC? They would have cowered, bigreb, just like you have been doing.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

It depends on which founder you're talking about. Jefferson and Patrick Henry might support Ron Paul, but someone like Alexander Hamilton certainly wouldn't. I'm sure he'd be just fine with how the federal government has turned out, and would be more than happy with Obama, Romney, or Gingrich as President.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Son, they lived before 1800 and would have very little understanding of what is what now, and how to deal with it.

Son? listen up BOY there is no political party that we have now that the founders would agree with, They would gathers their weapons and do a forced march on D.C.

Then grow up and act like a grown up. The founders would have been dismayed that minorities and women shared power, that lower economic classes did not defer to them.

But. . . march on DC? They would have cowered, bigreb, just like you have been doing.

How about you son why are you so childish when you don't get your way?

 

[JoeB131]

Who cares?

the founders were a bunch of slave-holders who didn't like paying their taxes.

We've evolved past them, and become a mature society. The idea we can go back to 18th century governing principles in the 21st is just silly.

No wonder you support Romney you Statist pig

Wow, are you not paying attention, or what?

 

[paulitician]

Our Founding Fathers fully understood the tyranny of Big Government oppression. They actually experienced it first-hand. Today's America resembles King George's oppressive Monarchy. And it's only getting worse. Big Government is only getting bigger. It's very sad.

I've often thought that. Oddly? There is a split now as there was during the time of the Founders...1/3 want to fight it, Another third are loyalists, the remainder just want to be left alone to thier own devices and refuse to pay attention.

Great observation. Spot-On.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This is supposing the notion the founders were all of one mind. They weren't. Some were bitter rivals. Washington and Jefferson were not on speaking terms.

It's extremely naive to postulate what 18th century leaders would regard important in the 21th century as well.

Correct.

The Framers represented many different views and opinions on matters of policy and governance, there was never a ‘consensus.’

so much ignorance in this thread...

And you manage only to contribute to the ignorance.

None of us have any real grasp or understanding of the Founders.

True, but many on the right seem to think they do.

And the NDAA is proof enough we have a problem that's at least in my opinion.

In your opinion, not in fact.

I would have to say our current oppressive Big Government resembles King George's England spot-on. Our Founding Fathers would be appalled at how much Freedom & Liberty we have allowed our Government to seize.

Nonsense.

In the last 60 years we’ve made great progress with regard to protecting civil liberties; all Americans enjoy greater freedom and liberty today than any point in the past. We continue to progress toward the free and just society the Framers envisioned, but were unable to realize during their time.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Who cares?

the founders were a bunch of slave-holders who didn't like paying their taxes.

We've evolved past them, and become a mature society. The idea we can go back to 18th century governing principles in the 21st is just silly.

No wonder you support Romney you Statist pig

Wow, are you not paying attention, or what?

You're a disrespectful piece of shit, True story.

 

[skipper]

When it comes down to it? They'd see thier work royally fucked up by all...and would order a re-do.

They'd also see some things we fixed as well.

 

[jillian]

Once the Founders were educated on how the world has changed I don't believe they would support Ron Paul. But they would support Ron Paul before supporting Obama.

they also didn't think women or people without land would vote and said black people were 3/5 of a person...

and, your point?