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None. The founders were closer to being liberal than, say a newt.
Yeah, liberals back then would've put "In God WeTrust" in our national documents.
Nevermind, those crazy ideas that someone's property is really the Govt's responsibility to let you own it or someone else get it via "wealth distribution."
Quit smoking crack, crackhead.
None. The founders were closer to being liberal than, say a newt.
None. The founders were closer to being liberal than, say a newt.
The founders were close to being a liberal? OK maybe you can answer this for me
Name some modern day liberals that comparable to the founding fathers.
And explain what those modern day liberals have done that you could come close to equating modern day liberalism with the principle's of the founding fathers.
OMG no you didn'tNone. The founders were closer to being liberal than, say a newt.
The founders were close to being a liberal? OK maybe you can answer this for me
Name some modern day liberals that comparable to the founding fathers.
And explain what those modern day liberals have done that you could come close to equating modern day liberalism with the principle's of the founding fathers.
I have to apologize. The founding fathers were more like Newt.
The Founding Fathers wouldn't support Paul if they were told in the future our enemies could attack us quicker than in their time which would be months of sailing to America compared to less than 24 hours flying here.
They would prefer our enemies be kept from attacking us here by stopping them overseas. If we had the capability to sink the British Navy back then in London's waterways instead in our bays after they unloaded red coats...the Founding Fathers would've done it for national security and peace of mind.
Meanwhile Paulestinians live in another reality....
The Founding Fathers wouldn't support Paul if they were told in the future our enemies could attack us quicker than in their time which would be months of sailing to America compared to less than 24 hours flying here.
They would prefer our enemies be kept from attacking us here by stopping them overseas. If we had the capability to sink the British Navy back then in London's waterways instead in our bays after they unloaded red coats...the Founding Fathers would've done it for national security and peace of mind.
Meanwhile Paulestinians live in another reality....
So the founders would insist on nation building? They would insist on preemptive strikes?
They had Rome like ambitions..........Who knew?
If the founders were alive today, they would be totally consumed by ogling women,
and by marveling at how easy farming had gotten.
If the founders were alive today, they would be totally consumed by ogling women,
and by marveling at how easy farming had gotten.
Yeah they would be so mesmerized by technology that they wouldn't even DARE to think critically about the political situation. Well said, mr. intelligent.
Yeah, liberals back then would've put "In God WeTrust" in our national documents.
Nevermind, those crazy ideas that someone's property is really the Govt's responsibility to let you own it or someone else get it via "wealth distribution."
Quit smoking crack, crackhead.
None. The founders were closer to being liberal than, say a newt.
This is supposing the notion the founders were all of one mind. They weren't. Some were bitter rivals. Washington and Jefferson were not on speaking terms.
It's extremely naive to postulate what 18th century leaders would regard important in the 21th century as well.
At lot as changed. They wouldn't be able to own human beings for one thing.
They had one basic principle that was uncompromising for them. It's was liberty and freedom of choice.
The Founding Fathers would've loved the capability to stop England's Navy from getting to our shores instead of constantly living in fear of the next invasion by the red coats.
These long-winded Ron Paul rants about the Constitution are fine, but he ignores reality that self preservation/defense is more important than worrying about how big the Federal Govt gets.....
The Founding Fathers wouldn't support Paul if they were told in the future our enemies could attack us quicker than in their time which would be months of sailing to America compared to less than 24 hours flying here.
They would prefer our enemies be kept from attacking us here by stopping them overseas. If we had the capability to sink the British Navy back then in London's waterways instead in our bays after they unloaded red coats...the Founding Fathers would've done it for national security and peace of mind.
Meanwhile Paulestinians live in another reality....
So the founders would insist on nation building? They would insist on preemptive strikes?
They had Rome like ambitions..........Who knew?
This is supposing the notion the founders were all of one mind. They weren't. Some were bitter rivals. Washington and Jefferson were not on speaking terms.
It's extremely naive to postulate what 18th century leaders would regard important in the 21th century as well.
At lot as changed. They wouldn't be able to own human beings for one thing.
They had one basic principle that was uncompromising for them. It's was liberty and freedom of choice.
For white men with land.
Sure.
None of us have any real grasp or understanding of the Founders.
Try to imagine;
As you sign the Declaration or the Constitution, that if you lose the Revolution, to the greatest Army/Navy the world has ever seen, you will be hung by the neck until dead.
you don't know if you have the brass to do that unless you someone end up in that situation.
so anyone claiming they are descended from the Founders had better be family. Anyone claiming political descention is full of shit.
They had one basic principle that was uncompromising for them. It's was liberty and freedom of choice.
For white men with land.
Sure.
They did have ever leave us something to build on.
For white men with land.
Sure.
They did have ever leave us something to build on.
Agreed. They sure enough did. But this sort of conjecture, about who they would chose now, is sorta ridiculous.
They were the "liberals" of their time. But they believed that women, and non-whites were inferior to white men. And that's just for starters.
What was fine and dandy in their time..isn't really fine and dandy now.
Once the Founders were educated on how the world has changed I don't believe they would support Ron Paul. But they would support Ron Paul before supporting Obama.
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