Which GOP Candidate Would The Founders Support?...

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Interesting take from Brion McClanahan.


I am often asked in interviews if the founding generation would recognize the modern government in Washington, D.C. I always answer yes, they would. They would recognize tyranny, the usurpation of power by the executive branch, the trampling of civil liberties and the endless wars of a government bent on empire. The several states seceded from a government like that in 1776 and they would probably advocate the same course today. Barack Obama has more power than George III ever had. That said, the next question is usually, “Well, what do we do about it and who among the current crop of presidential candidates would best adhere to the founding principles?"

The answer to the first part of that question is more complex than the answer to the second part. If Americans truly believed in limited government, then we would be following the prescription that Thomas Jefferson and James Madison made in 1798 by ignoring unconstitutional federal laws, participating in local and state government and using the powers of the states as a hedge against the general government. This is a long war that requires education and what Jefferson called “manly firmness.” Most important, the Constitution would not have been ratified had the founding generation believed that the states would become mere provinces of the general government or that what Patrick Henry called the “sweeping clauses” would be abused. The political class has to be held responsible.

As for the second part of that question, the answer is simple: Ron Paul. No one man can save the federal republic, but if the Founders, with perhaps an exception or two, had their choice, it would be the man who has the best understanding of the original construction of the executive branch, and among the four remaining Republicans, the best understanding of the Constitution and the original intent in general. Mitt Romney has conceded he knows little about the principles of federalism (with the exception of correctly insisting that Romneycare in Massachusetts is a state issue) and defers to Paul on the Constitution; Newt Gingrich believes that federal judges should be dragged before Congress to “answer” for their decisions (News flash, Newt! Federal judges can be impeached); Rick Santorum thinks that the phrase “pursuit of happiness” is in the Constitution, or perhaps the Declaration of Independence is a governing document, I couldn’t tell by his incoherent statements to Glenn Beck. All believe that the general government should be charged with finding “solutions” to societal ills. All believe that the president is a prime minister charged with initiating legislation and have a “progressive” view of executive powers, particularly in regard to foreign policy, the antithesis of the original intent. All, that is, except Ron Paul.


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Once the Founders were educated on how the world has changed I don't believe they would support Ron Paul. But they would support Ron Paul before supporting Obama.
 
Once the Founders were educated on how the world has changed I don't believe they would support Ron Paul. But they would support Ron Paul before supporting Obama.

The founders were smart enough to know that times change they still would not support Newt nor Romney or obama.
 
This is supposing the notion the founders were all of one mind. They weren't. Some were bitter rivals. Washington and Jefferson were not on speaking terms.

It's extremely naive to postulate what 18th century leaders would regard important in the 21th century as well.

At lot as changed. They wouldn't be able to own human beings for one thing.
 
This is supposing the notion the founders were all of one mind. They weren't. Some were bitter rivals. Washington and Jefferson were not on speaking terms.

It's extremely naive to postulate what 18th century leaders would regard important in the 21th century as well.

At lot as changed. They wouldn't be able to own human beings for one thing.

They had one basic principle that was uncompromising for them. It's was liberty and freedom of choice.
 
Funny how we so easily transfer our beliefs to people who would find our society alien and incomprehensible. It's meaningless to look to those men for answers, they are dead and were far from perfect while they lived.
 
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The Founding Fathers wouldn't support Paul if they were told in the future our enemies could attack us quicker than in their time which would be months of sailing to America compared to less than 24 hours flying here.

They would prefer our enemies be kept from attacking us here by stopping them overseas. If we had the capability to sink the British Navy back then in London's waterways instead in our bays after they unloaded red coats...the Founding Fathers would've done it for national security and peace of mind.

Meanwhile Paulestinians live in another reality....
 
This is supposing the notion the founders were all of one mind. They weren't. Some were bitter rivals. Washington and Jefferson were not on speaking terms.

It's extremely naive to postulate what 18th century leaders would regard important in the 21th century as well.

At lot as changed. They wouldn't be able to own human beings for one thing.

They had one basic principle that was uncompromising for them. It's was liberty and freedom of choice.

For white male land owners, everyone else, not so much. They were just fine with only a minority of the population having full voting rights.
 
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The Founding Fathers wouldn't support Paul if they were told in the future our enemies could attack us quicker than in their time which would be months of sailing to America compared to less than 24 hours flying here.

They would prefer our enemies be kept from attacking us here by stopping them overseas. If we had the capability to sink the British Navy back then in London's waterways instead in our bays after they unloaded red coats...the Founding Fathers would've done it for national security and peace of mind.

Meanwhile Paulestinians live in another reality....


Ron Paul
Mitt Romney
In your opinion who would they support?
 
I'm always entertained when any candidate, or any party, claims the Founders would agree with them. All it shows is the absolute ignorance of those who claim the Founders.
 
This is supposing the notion the founders were all of one mind. They weren't. Some were bitter rivals. Washington and Jefferson were not on speaking terms.

It's extremely naive to postulate what 18th century leaders would regard important in the 21th century as well.

At lot as changed. They wouldn't be able to own human beings for one thing.

They had one basic principle that was uncompromising for them. It's was liberty and freedom of choice.

For white male land owners, everyone else, not so much. They were just fine with only a minority of the population having full voting rights.

They had the basic down to build on. But you refuse to see that, it isn't my problem because you don't understand it.
 
None. The founders were closer to being liberal than, say a newt.
 
Romney since Paul would scare them with his batshit crazy ideas on national defense.

I doubt the Founding Fathers would agree waiting until an enemy burns down Washington DC is a good time to react to the threat.....

The Founding Fathers wouldn't support Paul if they were told in the future our enemies could attack us quicker than in their time which would be months of sailing to America compared to less than 24 hours flying here.

They would prefer our enemies be kept from attacking us here by stopping them overseas. If we had the capability to sink the British Navy back then in London's waterways instead in our bays after they unloaded red coats...the Founding Fathers would've done it for national security and peace of mind.

Meanwhile Paulestinians live in another reality....


Ron Paul
Mitt Romney
In your opinion who would they support?
 
Yeah, liberals back then would've put "In God WeTrust" in our national documents.:cuckoo:

Nevermind, those crazy ideas that someone's property is really the Govt's responsibility to let you own it or someone else get it via "wealth distribution."

Quit smoking crack, crackhead.

None. The founders were closer to being liberal than, say a newt.
 
This is supposing the notion the founders were all of one mind. They weren't. Some were bitter rivals. Washington and Jefferson were not on speaking terms.

It's extremely naive to postulate what 18th century leaders would regard important in the 21th century as well.

At lot as changed. They wouldn't be able to own human beings for one thing.

But according to some in here, since everyone was doing it, it was cool to be a slave owner. You see, not all slave owners were bad people. :)
 
They had one basic principle that was uncompromising for them. It's was liberty and freedom of choice.

For white male land owners, everyone else, not so much. They were just fine with only a minority of the population having full voting rights.

They had the basic down to build on. But you refuse to see that, it isn't my problem because you don't understand it.

I understand they laid the foundation that we have built upon but far too many people reject what has been built. Are you one of those who reject the post-civil war amendments meant to preserve the union that so many seem intent on trashing?
 

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