Where's the threads discussing the merits of "conservative" policy for the election?

[rdean]

Let's start with shrinking the size of a bloated and inefficient Federal Goverment. Then let's move on to reforming entitlements so they remain solvent and don't bury us in debt. An energy policy that isn't based on making fossil fuels so expensive that alternative sources of energy become economically viable would be a nice change. Getting rid of regulations that don't do what they were originally intended to do but DO make it more expensive for our businesses to compete in a world wide marketplace would help. Having an Attorney General who was more concerned with the safety of Americans and Mexicans and enforcing existing gun laws than using "Fast & Furious" to push stricter gun laws here in the US would be great. Maybe we could get some tort reform passed if the trial lawyers didn't have a bought and paid for Democrat sitting in the Oval Office. While we're at it perhaps we could actually work on lowering the cost of health care?

Basically...it would be SWELL if we could get someone in the White House that has a clue about how businesses operate and didn't view them as the "enemy" or an "ATM machine" to hit up for revenue to fund liberal causes.

You seem to have the "talking points" memorized. But where's the "policies"?

 

[Mac1958]

You know, conservative policy on:

Health care
jobs
foreign policy
education

Been waiting for the debate, but no one seems to know what their policies are. Not even their base.

Well, I think we have a pretty good idea of where the party stands on these issues.

• Health Care - You're on your own. And when people flood emergency rooms because they can't get insurance, make 'em wash dishes or something to pay for it. When people flood hospitals because they couldn't get preventive care or meds, well, we don't really have an answer to that one. Tough shit, whatever.
• Jobs - Cut taxes for the "jobs creators". Sure, the top marginal tax rate is down to 35% from the 39.6% level of the last time this country was worth a shit. Where are the jobs? Well, we don't know. It's Obama's fault, anyway. Income tax rates are lower and unemployment is higher. Oops.
• Foreign Policy - It's our world, do things our way or we'll blow the living shit out of your country. What's a few thousand more American military body bags? Plenty more where they came from. And, oh yeah, we support the troops, ha ha.
• Education - Cut taxes, cut funding, cut cut cut. Education is overrated anyway. Divert all education funding to the military, see "Foreign Policy" above. If people can't get a decent education, they can sign up the army. We need more people for our next occupation.

Romney will enunciate the conservative position with great clarity during the regular campaign. And if that doesn't work, he'll just say something completely different. It's worked for him so far!

.

 

[Valerie]

You know, conservative policy on:

Health care
jobs
foreign policy
education

Been waiting for the debate, but no one seems to know what their policies are. Not even their base.

Health Care

Nice try, but you're responding to a deranged programmed Obama-Bot. So don't get your expectations up for a rational reply. It aint gonna happen. But good effort though.

I wasn't doing it for him anyway...

Obama’s Failure

Unfortunately, the transformation in American health care set in motion by Obamacare will take us in precisely the wrong direction. The bill, itself more than 2,400 pages long, relies on a dense web of regulations, fees, subsidies, excise taxes, exchanges, and rule-setting boards to give the federal government extraordinary control over every corner of the health care system. The costs are commensurate: Obamacare added a trillion dollars in new health care spending. To pay for it, the law raised taxes by $500 billion on everyone from middle-class families to innovative medical device makers, and then slashed $500 billion from Medicare.

Obamacare was unpopular when passed, and remains unpopular today, because the American people recognize that a government takeover is the wrong approach. While Obamacare may create a new health insurance entitlement, it will only worsen the system’s existing problems. When was the last time a massive government program lowered cost, improved efficiency, or raised the consistency of service? Obamacare will violate that crucial first principle of medicine: “do no harm.” It will make America a less attractive place to practice medicine, discourage innovators from investing in life-saving technology, and restrict consumer choice.

In short, President Obama’s trillion dollar federal takeover of the U.S. health care system is a disaster for the federal budget, a disaster for the constitutional principles of federalism, and a disaster for the American people.



Mitt’s Plan
Health Care

 

[paulitician]

Health Care

Nice try, but you're responding to a deranged programmed Obama-Bot. So don't get your expectations up for a rational reply. It aint gonna happen. But good effort though.

I wasn't doing it for him anyway...

Obama’s Failure

Unfortunately, the transformation in American health care set in motion by Obamacare will take us in precisely the wrong direction. The bill, itself more than 2,400 pages long, relies on a dense web of regulations, fees, subsidies, excise taxes, exchanges, and rule-setting boards to give the federal government extraordinary control over every corner of the health care system. The costs are commensurate: Obamacare added a trillion dollars in new health care spending. To pay for it, the law raised taxes by $500 billion on everyone from middle-class families to innovative medical device makers, and then slashed $500 billion from Medicare.

Obamacare was unpopular when passed, and remains unpopular today, because the American people recognize that a government takeover is the wrong approach. While Obamacare may create a new health insurance entitlement, it will only worsen the system’s existing problems. When was the last time a massive government program lowered cost, improved efficiency, or raised the consistency of service? Obamacare will violate that crucial first principle of medicine: “do no harm.” It will make America a less attractive place to practice medicine, discourage innovators from investing in life-saving technology, and restrict consumer choice.

In short, President Obama’s trillion dollar federal takeover of the U.S. health care system is a disaster for the federal budget, a disaster for the constitutional principles of federalism, and a disaster for the American people.



Mitt’s Plan
Health Care

I hear ya. The Countdown is now on to when he gets around to calling you a 'Racist.' 10...9...8...7...

 

[rdean]

You know, conservative policy on:

Health care
jobs
foreign policy
education

Been waiting for the debate, but no one seems to know what their policies are. Not even their base.

Health Care

Nice try, but you're responding to a deranged programmed Obama-Bot. So don't get your expectations up for a rational reply. It aint gonna happen. But good effort though.

Have you actually read the links provided by Valerie? I did. They are talking points and slogans. Not "plans". He might have well just said, "Make things better" for all the detail provided.

 

[rdean]

You know, conservative policy on:

Health care
jobs
foreign policy
education

Been waiting for the debate, but no one seems to know what their policies are. Not even their base.

Well, I think we have a pretty good idea of where the party stands on these issues.

• Health Care - You're on your own. And when people flood emergency rooms because they can't get insurance, make 'em wash dishes or something to pay for it. When people flood hospitals because they couldn't get preventive care or meds, well, we don't really have an answer to that one. Tough shit, whatever.
• Jobs - Cut taxes for the "jobs creators". Sure, the top marginal tax rate is down to 35% from the 39.6% level of the last time this country was worth a shit. Where are the jobs? Well, we don't know. It's Obama's fault, anyway. Income tax rates are lower and unemployment is higher. Oops.
• Foreign Policy - It's our world, do things our way or we'll blow the living shit out of your country. What's a few thousand more American military body bags? Plenty more where they came from. And, oh yeah, we support the troops, ha ha.
• Education - Cut taxes, cut funding, cut cut cut. Education is overrated anyway. Divert all education funding to the military, see "Foreign Policy" above. If people can't get a decent education, they can sign up the army. We need more people for our next occupation.

Romney will enunciate the conservative position with great clarity during the regular campaign. And if that doesn't work, he'll just say something completely different. It's worked for him so far!

.

That seems to fit in pretty well with the links provided by Valerie.

 

[paulitician]

'Racist' accusation in 10...9...8...7...

 

[Valerie]

You know, conservative policy on:

Health care
jobs
foreign policy
education

Been waiting for the debate, but no one seems to know what their policies are. Not even their base.

Well, I think we have a pretty good idea of where the party stands on these issues.

• Health Care - You're on your own. And when people flood emergency rooms because they can't get insurance, make 'em wash dishes or something to pay for it. When people flood hospitals because they couldn't get preventive care or meds, well, we don't really have an answer to that one. Tough shit, whatever.
• Jobs - Cut taxes for the "jobs creators". Sure, the top marginal tax rate is down to 35% from the 39.6% level of the last time this country was worth a shit. Where are the jobs? Well, we don't know. It's Obama's fault, anyway. Income tax rates are lower and unemployment is higher. Oops.
• Foreign Policy - It's our world, do things our way or we'll blow the living shit out of your country. What's a few thousand more American military body bags? Plenty more where they came from. And, oh yeah, we support the troops, ha ha.
• Education - Cut taxes, cut funding, cut cut cut. Education is overrated anyway. Divert all education funding to the military, see "Foreign Policy" above. If people can't get a decent education, they can sign up the army. We need more people for our next occupation.

Romney will enunciate the conservative position with great clarity during the regular campaign. And if that doesn't work, he'll just say something completely different. It's worked for him so far!

.

That seems to fit in pretty well with the links provided by Valerie.

Restore State Leadership


Restore to the states the responsibility and resources to care for their poor, uninsured, and chronically ill:

Block grant Medicaid and other payments to states
Limit federal standards
States will experiment and learn from one another
Flexibility to deal with uninsured: e.g., charity, exchanges, subsidy for private coverage
Flexibility to deal with chronically ill: e.g., high-risk pools, reinsurance, risk adjustment




Empower Individual Ownership

Give a tax deduction to those who buy their own health insurance, just like those who buy it through their employers:

End tax discrimination
Greater consumer choice—can buy what you want, not only what your employer wants
Promote portability
Help control health care costs




Focus Federal Regulation


Focus federal regulation of health care on making markets work:

Correct common failures in the insurance market
Ensure that individuals with pre-existing conditions who are continuously covered for a specified period may not be denied coverage
Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools
Eliminate counterproductive federal constraints
Remove barriers to the sale of insurance across state lines
Allow providers to design plans that meet consumer needs




Reform Medical Liability


Reduce the influence of lawsuits on medical practice and costs:

Cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice lawsuits
Innovation grants for state reforms: health courts, alternative dispute resolution, etc.




Introduce Market Forces


Make health care more like a consumer market and less like a government program:

Unshackle HSAs—e.g., permit HSA funds to be used to pay insurance premiums
Promote “co-insurance” products
Encourage “Consumer Reports”-type rating of alternative insurance plans
Facilitate IT interoperability
Promote alternatives to “fee for service”


Health Care

 

[daveman]

They have, as far as I can remember, only two goals:

deregulate wall st & industrial polluters
cut taxes for the same.

More selective perception. You leftists are good at that.

 

[snakedoc]

You know, conservative policy on:

Health care
jobs
foreign policy
education

Been waiting for the debate, but no one seems to know what their policies are. Not even their base.

Keeping it under wraps or giving generic responses so their opposition will have less time and ammunition to use later on much the same as Obama and the Democrats are doing.

 

[Flopper]

Health Care

Nice try, but you're responding to a deranged programmed Obama-Bot. So don't get your expectations up for a rational reply. It aint gonna happen. But good effort though.

Have you actually read the links provided by Valerie? I did. They are talking points and slogans. Not "plans". He might have well just said, "Make things better" for all the detail provided.

To provide details, as to what he will actually do if elected will handicap him in the general election. Romney needs to be flexible so he can flip on issues depending on polls and news events.

The only detail promise he has made is to repeal Obamacare. Of course a president can't repeal any law so he can safely make that promise.

 

[rdean]

Well, I think we have a pretty good idea of where the party stands on these issues.

• Health Care - You're on your own. And when people flood emergency rooms because they can't get insurance, make 'em wash dishes or something to pay for it. When people flood hospitals because they couldn't get preventive care or meds, well, we don't really have an answer to that one. Tough shit, whatever.
• Jobs - Cut taxes for the "jobs creators". Sure, the top marginal tax rate is down to 35% from the 39.6% level of the last time this country was worth a shit. Where are the jobs? Well, we don't know. It's Obama's fault, anyway. Income tax rates are lower and unemployment is higher. Oops.
• Foreign Policy - It's our world, do things our way or we'll blow the living shit out of your country. What's a few thousand more American military body bags? Plenty more where they came from. And, oh yeah, we support the troops, ha ha.
• Education - Cut taxes, cut funding, cut cut cut. Education is overrated anyway. Divert all education funding to the military, see "Foreign Policy" above. If people can't get a decent education, they can sign up the army. We need more people for our next occupation.

Romney will enunciate the conservative position with great clarity during the regular campaign. And if that doesn't work, he'll just say something completely different. It's worked for him so far!

.

That seems to fit in pretty well with the links provided by Valerie.

Restore State Leadership


Restore to the states the responsibility and resources to care for their poor, uninsured, and chronically ill:

Block grant Medicaid and other payments to states
Limit federal standards
States will experiment and learn from one another
Flexibility to deal with uninsured: e.g., charity, exchanges, subsidy for private coverage
Flexibility to deal with chronically ill: e.g., high-risk pools, reinsurance, risk adjustment




Empower Individual Ownership

Give a tax deduction to those who buy their own health insurance, just like those who buy it through their employers:

End tax discrimination
Greater consumer choice—can buy what you want, not only what your employer wants
Promote portability
Help control health care costs




Focus Federal Regulation


Focus federal regulation of health care on making markets work:

Correct common failures in the insurance market
Ensure that individuals with pre-existing conditions who are continuously covered for a specified period may not be denied coverage
Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools
Eliminate counterproductive federal constraints
Remove barriers to the sale of insurance across state lines
Allow providers to design plans that meet consumer needs




Reform Medical Liability


Reduce the influence of lawsuits on medical practice and costs:

Cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice lawsuits
Innovation grants for state reforms: health courts, alternative dispute resolution, etc.




Introduce Market Forces


Make health care more like a consumer market and less like a government program:

Unshackle HSAs—e.g., permit HSA funds to be used to pay insurance premiums
Promote “co-insurance” products
Encourage “Consumer Reports”-type rating of alternative insurance plans
Facilitate IT interoperability
Promote alternatives to “fee for service”


Health Care

You really believe those talking points are "plans". Do you even know what they mean? Republicans want health care sold between states because they know California will have no ability to stop a health care company from screwing over someone when that company is based in New York. You are fighting to get fucked in the ass. What is wrong with you?

 

[Valerie]

That seems to fit in pretty well with the links provided by Valerie.

Restore State Leadership


Restore to the states the responsibility and resources to care for their poor, uninsured, and chronically ill:

Block grant Medicaid and other payments to states
Limit federal standards
States will experiment and learn from one another
Flexibility to deal with uninsured: e.g., charity, exchanges, subsidy for private coverage
Flexibility to deal with chronically ill: e.g., high-risk pools, reinsurance, risk adjustment




Empower Individual Ownership

Give a tax deduction to those who buy their own health insurance, just like those who buy it through their employers:

End tax discrimination
Greater consumer choice—can buy what you want, not only what your employer wants
Promote portability
Help control health care costs




Focus Federal Regulation


Focus federal regulation of health care on making markets work:

Correct common failures in the insurance market
Ensure that individuals with pre-existing conditions who are continuously covered for a specified period may not be denied coverage
Empower individuals and small businesses to form purchasing pools
Eliminate counterproductive federal constraints
Remove barriers to the sale of insurance across state lines
Allow providers to design plans that meet consumer needs




Reform Medical Liability


Reduce the influence of lawsuits on medical practice and costs:

Cap non-economic damages in medical malpractice lawsuits
Innovation grants for state reforms: health courts, alternative dispute resolution, etc.




Introduce Market Forces


Make health care more like a consumer market and less like a government program:

Unshackle HSAs—e.g., permit HSA funds to be used to pay insurance premiums
Promote “co-insurance” products
Encourage “Consumer Reports”-type rating of alternative insurance plans
Facilitate IT interoperability
Promote alternatives to “fee for service”


Health Care

You really believe those talking points are "plans". Do you even know what they mean? Republicans want health care sold between states because they know California will have no ability to stop a health care company from screwing over someone when that company is based in New York. You are fighting to get fucked in the ass. What is wrong with you?

What, you expect me to hold your hand through every click...?

Believe In America: Mitt Romney's Plan for Jobs and Economic Growth
Believe In America: Mitt Romney's Plan for Jobs and Economic Growth

http://mittromney.com/sites/default...America-PlanForJobsAndEconomicGrowth-Full.pdf

What They're Saying About the Romney Medicare Plan


December 15, 2011

“Governor Romney came up frankly with a very good variation on the Ryan Plan which allowed the maintenance of the current system. Paul [Ryan] has adopted that, and I think did a very brave act by Senator Ron Wyden, you have a Democrat willing to cosponsor the bill. I endorsed the concept today. It’s a big step forward. And I think Governor Romney deserves some of the credit to help figure out a way to make this thing workable.” –Newt Gingrich, 12/15/11


National Review: Romney’s “Bold And Specific” Endorsement Of Entitlement Reform “Deserves Praise.” “That makes his endorsement of bold and specific proposals for entitlement reform in a speech at Americans for Prosperity last week all the more noteworthy. … All of this — as well as his promises to block-grant Medicaid to the states and institute real cuts in discretionary spending — deserves praise.” (Editorial, “Romney: Right On Medicare,” National Review, 11/8/11)

National Review Headline: “Romney: Right On Medicare” (National Review, 11/8/11)



The Wall Street Journal: “At Least On Medicare, Mr. Romney Is The Bolder Reformer.” (Editorial, “The Newtitlement State,” The Wall Street Journal, 12/8/11)


Congressman Paul Ryan: Romney’s Medicare Reforms Are “Perfectly In Keeping With Serious Reform.” “I asked him about Romney’s decision to offer traditional Medicare as one option in the premium support plan. He said that he and former Fed vice chairwoman Alice Rivlin had discussed that idea, and so long as the government, as Romney detailed, would provide a capped amount to be used either for traditional Medicare or for private plans, the same cost savings could be obtained under Romney’s plan as under the plan Ryan proposed as part of the 2012 budget. Ryan deemed this approach as ‘perfectly in keeping with serious reform.’” (Jennifer Rubin, “Exclusive Interview: Paul Ryan Has Nothing But Praise For Romney Plan,” The Washington Post, 11/4/11)

Ryan: “This Plan Is In Perfect Keeping With What We’ve Been Talking About.” (Robert Costa, “Ryan Praises Romney Fiscal Plan,” National Review, 11/4/11)
Ryan: “This Is Getting Us Toward A Prosperity Agenda That Will Allow The Private Sector To Grow.” (Jennifer Rubin, “Paul Ryan Has Nothing But Praise For Romney Plan,” Washington Post, 11/4/11)
Ryan: “Look At What [Romney] Put Out! This Is A Great Development.” (Jennifer Rubin, “Paul Ryan Has Nothing But Praise For Romney Plan,” Washington Post, 11/4/11)



Wall Street Journal Editorial: The Plan “Moves Mr. Romney Toward Making The 2012 Contest A Philosophical Choice Over The Direction Of Government.” “In a speech last Friday, Mr. Romney laid out in more detail than he has before how he'd attack our fiscal maladies, and his remarks deserve more attention than they've received as a guide to how he might govern. His policy outline isn't the 2012 House Republican budget, but it qualifies as progress, especially on entitlements. … This reform progress is politically important because it moves Mr. Romney toward making the 2012 contest a philosophical choice over the direction of government, rather than merely a technocratic argument over who can create more jobs.” (Editorial, “Romney's Fiscal Awakening,” Wall Street Journal, 11/8/11)

Wall Street Journal Editorial Headline: “Romney's Fiscal Awakening” (Editorial, “Romney's Fiscal Awakening,” Wall Street Journal, 11/8/11)

National Review’s Yuval Levin: “I Have To Say That I Was Very Impressed With What [Romney] Had To Say In Today’s Speech On Spending, And Especially With What He Had To Say About Medicare Reform.” (Yuval Levin, “Romney On Entitlements,” National Review, 11/4/11)
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What They're Saying About the Romney Medicare Plan

 

[Avatar4321]

You know, conservative policy on:

Health care
jobs
foreign policy
education

Been waiting for the debate, but no one seems to know what their policies are. Not even their base.

If you don't know what conservative policies are and you post on this board, you are either illiterate, dishonest, or stupid.

 

[Avatar4321]

BTW, your inability to comprehend or argue against conservative policies doesn't say anything about the merits of conservative policies, it only reveals your character and skills.

 

[editec]

You know, conservative policy on:

Health care
jobs
foreign policy
education

Been waiting for the debate, but no one seems to know what their policies are. Not even their base.

This place isn't really filled with conservative thinkers, rdean.

Mostly this place is filled with CSA-type racists who pretend they're conservatives.

That exactly why most of the threads started here by our resident cons are about little more than race-baiting and or Isreal-bashing threads.

 

[daveman]

You know, conservative policy on:

Health care
jobs
foreign policy
education

Been waiting for the debate, but no one seems to know what their policies are. Not even their base.

This place isn't really filled with conservative thinkers, rdean.

Mostly this place is filled with CSA-type racists who pretend they're conservatives.

That exactly why most of the threads started here by our resident cons are about little more than race-baiting and or Isreal-bashing threads.

Y'know, when you make blanket statements based on your fantasies, you look kinda stupid.