Where would you rank Donald Trump on the list of greatest US Presidents? Best? Worst? Average??

[AzogtheDefiler]

 

[Meathead]

They trust Russia more than they trust former Sec. of State Clinton.

Yes. I'd trust anyone more than the beast. They don't call her Crooked Hillary for nuthin'.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

 

[peach174]

Not true.
It's cons who were upset with the last administration working with Russia.

 

[Flash]

Trump has done more good for this country in 2.5 years than all the Democrats since WWII have done, combined. All that good with none of the Democrat bad.

 

[Flash]

Best WWE President ever.



He really knows how to feed his base. The Trumpublicans would rather side with Russia than compromise with the Dirty Democrats.

Is that like the Moon Bats siding with that Obama asshole when he was kissing the ass of his Mullah buddies and sucking Castro cock for the whole world to see?

 

[Papageorgio]

Best WWE President ever.



He really knows how to feed his base. The Trumpublicans would rather side with Russia than compromise with the Dirty Democrats.

I'd rather that no one sides with Russia and also not compromise with Democrats. I'd like to see Democrats compromise with the President.

 

[Papageorgio]

Best WWE President ever.



He really knows how to feed his base. The Trumpublicans would rather side with Russia than compromise with the Dirty Democrats.

There is no siding with Russia never was.

They trust Russia more than they trust former Sec. of State Clinton.

I don't trust Russia at all. Don't trust Clinton, I only would trust Clinton more because she is an American. I'd also trust Clinton over people like tommy or timmy from Wales, Also, Dragonlady is not trustworthy Canadian. If you aren't from America, I don't trust your words, you have alternative motives that may or may not help our country.

 

[sealybobo]

Looks like your derangement affirms everything his post stated.

Oh? Do tell... how does pointing out trump inherited the aforementioned items, which is true, indicate TDS? Sounds more like you're the one suffering from TDS

Sounds like you are a poor liar.

So you can't "tell." Figgers.

I told.

Nope, when asked for evidence, your response was to lie. Just like when you were asked to post a link to that poll and you responded with text, but no link.

Republicans make no sense and talk out of both sides of their mouths depending on who's in power. And I think it's important people realize the level of hypocrisy.

Here me out. Back when Bush was president we said the middle class and poor were struggling and you guys pointed to the stock market. And you said anyone struggling either needed to start a business or go to school if they want a better station in life. Anyone who was struggling was responsible for themselves.

When Obama got into office we pointed to the stock market and you said it wasn't good enough. You asked blue collar Americans if they were better off than they were 8 years ago. In other words suddenly the government was to blame because white blue collar workers were struggling. Never mind the stock market. And you didn't believe the unemployment rate was as low as it was.

Today, the economy is booming if you are rich. It's good too if you are middle class/poor but not nearly as good as it is for the rich. Middle class people are still struggling. Trump has not made America great again. He has just made it greater for the rich than Obama did.

“Most American workers aren’t saving at levels that will allow them to retire fully at age 65 at their current standard of living,”

Millennials also are widely predicted to become the first generation in U.S. history to do worse than their parents financially. There is a powerful temptation to equate the much-maligned personality traits of millennials with their high unemployment rate -- at 16.2 percent for young people 16 to 24, it's more than twice the national average -- and limited financial prospects [source: Ayres]. But the truth, as usual, is much more complicated.

If millennials indeed become the first generation to do worse than their parents, it's less about the generation gap than the wealth gap. It's less about entitled kids who can't stand hard work than a wholesale lack of jobs that offer a living wage for someone with limited experience. In other words, it's not just the "kids these days," but the "economy these days" that we really should be moaning about.

Are millennials really the first generation to do worse than their parents?

 

[sealybobo]

I* want to see Trump and Republicans make America great again for Millennials.

Millennials are the most educated generation in American history. That may seem like a good thing but college is expensive. The price of attending a public four-year college rose 54 percent from 1998 to 2008 (BUSH YEARS) while the typical American household earned less in 2008 than it did a decade earlier (CLINTON YEARS) And Republicans don’t want to do shit about it. Millennials took on massive debt, a record-breaking $35,200 on average (REPUBLICANS FAULT)

Student debt isn't necessarily a bad thing if there are well-paying jobs waiting for college graduates. Oops! Millennials had the poorly timed misfortune of graduating in the middle of the worst economic collapse since 1929. The BUSH Great Recession forced companies to downsize or at least stop hiring. The U.S. unemployment rate went from 4.4 percent in 2007 to a crippling 10 percent in 2009.

But perhaps the biggest economic forces working against millennials -- and younger Generation Xers, too -- are income stagnation and the wealth gap. From 1950 to 2000, the average household income of American families steadily rose. (TILL BUSH) From 2000 to 2010, when many millennials entered the workforce, median household incomes fell for the first time since World War II THANKS BUSH. It's hard to make more money than your parents when jobs are paying less for the same work.

The wealth gap between older and younger people has also widened significantly over the past 30 years. A 30-year-old in 2013 is worth 21 percent less than a 30-year-old in 1983. Meanwhile, the net worth of the average 60-year-old today is more than twice as high as 1983. In other words, young people keep getting poorer, while old folks get richer. Demographers point to skyrocketing college tuition and middle-class income stagnation.

These broad economic trends add up to ballooning debt, fewer well-paying jobs for college graduates and bleak long-term career prospects for millennials. Wouldn't you move into your parents' basement, too?

 

[sealybobo]

Which brings us back to the original question: Will millennials be the first generation to do worse than their parents? If income and personal wealth are our only metric for measuring success, there's a very good chance that millennials will fall short of the financial gains made by their parents.

 

[Papageorgio]

Oh? Do tell... how does pointing out trump inherited the aforementioned items, which is true, indicate TDS? Sounds more like you're the one suffering from TDS

Sounds like you are a poor liar.

So you can't "tell." Figgers.

I told.

Nope, when asked for evidence, your response was to lie. Just like when you were asked to post a link to that poll and you responded with text, but no link.

Republicans make no sense and talk out of both sides of their mouths depending on who's in power. And I think it's important people realize the level of hypocrisy.

Here me out. Back when Bush was president we said the middle class and poor were struggling and you guys pointed to the stock market. And you said anyone struggling either needed to start a business or go to school if they want a better station in life. Anyone who was struggling was responsible for themselves.

When Obama got into office we pointed to the stock market and you said it wasn't good enough. You asked blue collar Americans if they were better off than they were 8 years ago. In other words suddenly the government was to blame because white blue collar workers were struggling. Never mind the stock market. And you didn't believe the unemployment rate was as low as it was.

Today, the economy is booming if you are rich. It's good too if you are middle class/poor but not nearly as good as it is for the rich. Middle class people are still struggling. Trump has not made America great again. He has just made it greater for the rich than Obama did.

“Most American workers aren’t saving at levels that will allow them to retire fully at age 65 at their current standard of living,”

Millennials also are widely predicted to become the first generation in U.S. history to do worse than their parents financially. There is a powerful temptation to equate the much-maligned personality traits of millennials with their high unemployment rate -- at 16.2 percent for young people 16 to 24, it's more than twice the national average -- and limited financial prospects [source: Ayres]. But the truth, as usual, is much more complicated.

If millennials indeed become the first generation to do worse than their parents, it's less about the generation gap than the wealth gap. It's less about entitled kids who can't stand hard work than a wholesale lack of jobs that offer a living wage for someone with limited experience. In other words, it's not just the "kids these days," but the "economy these days" that we really should be moaning about.

Are millennials really the first generation to do worse than their parents?

Deficits didn't matter to Democrats and now they do. The way we treated the children at the border didn't matter and now it does.

The two parties are hypocritical and not worthy of our votes or trust.

 

[sealybobo]

Sounds like you are a poor liar.

So you can't "tell." Figgers.

I told.

Nope, when asked for evidence, your response was to lie. Just like when you were asked to post a link to that poll and you responded with text, but no link.

Republicans make no sense and talk out of both sides of their mouths depending on who's in power. And I think it's important people realize the level of hypocrisy.

Here me out. Back when Bush was president we said the middle class and poor were struggling and you guys pointed to the stock market. And you said anyone struggling either needed to start a business or go to school if they want a better station in life. Anyone who was struggling was responsible for themselves.

When Obama got into office we pointed to the stock market and you said it wasn't good enough. You asked blue collar Americans if they were better off than they were 8 years ago. In other words suddenly the government was to blame because white blue collar workers were struggling. Never mind the stock market. And you didn't believe the unemployment rate was as low as it was.

Today, the economy is booming if you are rich. It's good too if you are middle class/poor but not nearly as good as it is for the rich. Middle class people are still struggling. Trump has not made America great again. He has just made it greater for the rich than Obama did.

“Most American workers aren’t saving at levels that will allow them to retire fully at age 65 at their current standard of living,”

Millennials also are widely predicted to become the first generation in U.S. history to do worse than their parents financially. There is a powerful temptation to equate the much-maligned personality traits of millennials with their high unemployment rate -- at 16.2 percent for young people 16 to 24, it's more than twice the national average -- and limited financial prospects [source: Ayres]. But the truth, as usual, is much more complicated.

If millennials indeed become the first generation to do worse than their parents, it's less about the generation gap than the wealth gap. It's less about entitled kids who can't stand hard work than a wholesale lack of jobs that offer a living wage for someone with limited experience. In other words, it's not just the "kids these days," but the "economy these days" that we really should be moaning about.

Are millennials really the first generation to do worse than their parents?

Deficits didn't matter to Democrats and now they do. The way we treated the children at the border didn't matter and now it does.

The two parties are hypocritical and not worthy of our votes or trust.

A glimpse of the facts shows clearly why reducing the gap between the rich & poor should be presidential priority number one. It’s been widening for decades.

The top 1% of U.S. households received more than a fifth of all U.S. income in 2013, compared with less than a 1/10th in the 70s and 80’s. Republicans love to say the rich pay all the taxes. Yea sure they do because they make all the money.

A thriving middle class is critical for a democratic society. It also provides a buffer between the rich and the poor, thus mitigating the class struggle that Karl Marx predicted would destroy capitalism.

The U.S. middle class shrank from 58.3% of all households in the '70s to only 50% in 2013.

Why does it matter if the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer? Not only is greater inequality a threat to our democratic capitalist society, it’s bad for the economy and causes a whole host of other problems.

The U.S. government purchases goods and services from many businesses. If government policy favors companies that provide better pay to average workers the president can help increase the income of many Americans.

Tax breaks to the rich in the 80’s explains why inequality has gotten so much worse since then.

Inequality reached a low point in the U.S. after World War II when taxes were high, labor unions were strong and the New Deal provided a strong safety net to average Americans.

The biggest economic challenge facing us will be to grapple with the people who caused the income inequality. Some of the richest and most powerful citizens.

Dealing with the problem of inequality will actually make America great again.

 

[sealybobo]

Sounds like you are a poor liar.

So you can't "tell." Figgers.

I told.

Nope, when asked for evidence, your response was to lie. Just like when you were asked to post a link to that poll and you responded with text, but no link.

Republicans make no sense and talk out of both sides of their mouths depending on who's in power. And I think it's important people realize the level of hypocrisy.

Here me out. Back when Bush was president we said the middle class and poor were struggling and you guys pointed to the stock market. And you said anyone struggling either needed to start a business or go to school if they want a better station in life. Anyone who was struggling was responsible for themselves.

When Obama got into office we pointed to the stock market and you said it wasn't good enough. You asked blue collar Americans if they were better off than they were 8 years ago. In other words suddenly the government was to blame because white blue collar workers were struggling. Never mind the stock market. And you didn't believe the unemployment rate was as low as it was.

Today, the economy is booming if you are rich. It's good too if you are middle class/poor but not nearly as good as it is for the rich. Middle class people are still struggling. Trump has not made America great again. He has just made it greater for the rich than Obama did.

“Most American workers aren’t saving at levels that will allow them to retire fully at age 65 at their current standard of living,”

Millennials also are widely predicted to become the first generation in U.S. history to do worse than their parents financially. There is a powerful temptation to equate the much-maligned personality traits of millennials with their high unemployment rate -- at 16.2 percent for young people 16 to 24, it's more than twice the national average -- and limited financial prospects [source: Ayres]. But the truth, as usual, is much more complicated.

If millennials indeed become the first generation to do worse than their parents, it's less about the generation gap than the wealth gap. It's less about entitled kids who can't stand hard work than a wholesale lack of jobs that offer a living wage for someone with limited experience. In other words, it's not just the "kids these days," but the "economy these days" that we really should be moaning about.

Are millennials really the first generation to do worse than their parents?

Deficits didn't matter to Democrats and now they do. The way we treated the children at the border didn't matter and now it does.

The two parties are hypocritical and not worthy of our votes or trust.

We haven't brought up deficits or the debt. Find one thread from 2019 that one of us liberals started that's talking about the debt or deficit.

And how Trump treats children at the border is like 20th on my list of concerns. That issue probably more benefits Republicans because no one wants more illegals or refugees coming here. In other words that's an issue Republicans LOVE to talk about. Meanwhile pay attention to what's really going on like what anti labor/pro corporation bullshit are the Supreme's passing?

Big Business Keeps Winning at the Supreme Court

You suckers.

 

[Papageorgio]

So you can't "tell." Figgers.

I told.

Nope, when asked for evidence, your response was to lie. Just like when you were asked to post a link to that poll and you responded with text, but no link.

Republicans make no sense and talk out of both sides of their mouths depending on who's in power. And I think it's important people realize the level of hypocrisy.

Here me out. Back when Bush was president we said the middle class and poor were struggling and you guys pointed to the stock market. And you said anyone struggling either needed to start a business or go to school if they want a better station in life. Anyone who was struggling was responsible for themselves.

When Obama got into office we pointed to the stock market and you said it wasn't good enough. You asked blue collar Americans if they were better off than they were 8 years ago. In other words suddenly the government was to blame because white blue collar workers were struggling. Never mind the stock market. And you didn't believe the unemployment rate was as low as it was.

Today, the economy is booming if you are rich. It's good too if you are middle class/poor but not nearly as good as it is for the rich. Middle class people are still struggling. Trump has not made America great again. He has just made it greater for the rich than Obama did.

“Most American workers aren’t saving at levels that will allow them to retire fully at age 65 at their current standard of living,”

Millennials also are widely predicted to become the first generation in U.S. history to do worse than their parents financially. There is a powerful temptation to equate the much-maligned personality traits of millennials with their high unemployment rate -- at 16.2 percent for young people 16 to 24, it's more than twice the national average -- and limited financial prospects [source: Ayres]. But the truth, as usual, is much more complicated.

If millennials indeed become the first generation to do worse than their parents, it's less about the generation gap than the wealth gap. It's less about entitled kids who can't stand hard work than a wholesale lack of jobs that offer a living wage for someone with limited experience. In other words, it's not just the "kids these days," but the "economy these days" that we really should be moaning about.

Are millennials really the first generation to do worse than their parents?

Deficits didn't matter to Democrats and now they do. The way we treated the children at the border didn't matter and now it does.

The two parties are hypocritical and not worthy of our votes or trust.

A glimpse of the facts shows clearly why reducing the gap between the rich & poor should be presidential priority number one. It’s been widening for decades.

The top 1% of U.S. households received more than a fifth of all U.S. income in 2013, compared with less than a 1/10th in the 70s and 80’s. Republicans love to say the rich pay all the taxes. Yea sure they do because they make all the money.

A thriving middle class is critical for a democratic society. It also provides a buffer between the rich and the poor, thus mitigating the class struggle that Karl Marx predicted would destroy capitalism.

The U.S. middle class shrank from 58.3% of all households in the '70s to only 50% in 2013.

Why does it matter if the rich are getting richer and the poor poorer? Not only is greater inequality a threat to our democratic capitalist society, it’s bad for the economy and causes a whole host of other problems.

The U.S. government purchases goods and services from many businesses. If government policy favors companies that provide better pay to average workers the president can help increase the income of many Americans.

Tax breaks to the rich in the 80’s explains why inequality has gotten so much worse since then.

Inequality reached a low point in the U.S. after World War II when taxes were high, labor unions were strong and the New Deal provided a strong safety net to average Americans.

The biggest economic challenge facing us will be to grapple with the people who caused the income inequality. Some of the richest and most powerful citizens.

Dealing with the problem of inequality will actually make America great again.

You need to link where you are plagiarizing this from.

 

[miketx]

So you can't "tell." Figgers.

I told.

Nope, when asked for evidence, your response was to lie. Just like when you were asked to post a link to that poll and you responded with text, but no link.

Republicans make no sense and talk out of both sides of their mouths depending on who's in power. And I think it's important people realize the level of hypocrisy.

Here me out. Back when Bush was president we said the middle class and poor were struggling and you guys pointed to the stock market. And you said anyone struggling either needed to start a business or go to school if they want a better station in life. Anyone who was struggling was responsible for themselves.

When Obama got into office we pointed to the stock market and you said it wasn't good enough. You asked blue collar Americans if they were better off than they were 8 years ago. In other words suddenly the government was to blame because white blue collar workers were struggling. Never mind the stock market. And you didn't believe the unemployment rate was as low as it was.

Today, the economy is booming if you are rich. It's good too if you are middle class/poor but not nearly as good as it is for the rich. Middle class people are still struggling. Trump has not made America great again. He has just made it greater for the rich than Obama did.

“Most American workers aren’t saving at levels that will allow them to retire fully at age 65 at their current standard of living,”

Millennials also are widely predicted to become the first generation in U.S. history to do worse than their parents financially. There is a powerful temptation to equate the much-maligned personality traits of millennials with their high unemployment rate -- at 16.2 percent for young people 16 to 24, it's more than twice the national average -- and limited financial prospects [source: Ayres]. But the truth, as usual, is much more complicated.

If millennials indeed become the first generation to do worse than their parents, it's less about the generation gap than the wealth gap. It's less about entitled kids who can't stand hard work than a wholesale lack of jobs that offer a living wage for someone with limited experience. In other words, it's not just the "kids these days," but the "economy these days" that we really should be moaning about.

Are millennials really the first generation to do worse than their parents?

Deficits didn't matter to Democrats and now they do. The way we treated the children at the border didn't matter and now it does.

The two parties are hypocritical and not worthy of our votes or trust.

We haven't brought up deficits or the debt. Find one thread from 2019 that one of us liberals started that's talking about the debt or deficit.

And how Trump treats children at the border is like 20th on my list of concerns. That issue probably more benefits Republicans because no one wants more illegals or refugees coming here. In other words that's an issue Republicans LOVE to talk about. Meanwhile pay attention to what's really going on like what anti labor/pro corporation bullshit are the Supreme's passing?

Big Business Keeps Winning at the Supreme Court

You suckers.

Suckers? You're the idiot that believes everything the media says.

 

[Third Party]

Political scientists rank the best and worst US Presidents ever, with Trump being the worst

According to political scientists, Donald Trump is the worst President in US history. What do you guys think?
Donald Trump ranks as the worst president in United States history, according to a survey of political scientists.

All presidents were ranked in the 2018 Presidents and Executive Politics Presidential Greatness Survey. Experts part of the Presidents and Executive Politics Section of the American Political Science Association were asked to rank each president on a scale of 0-100.

Trump earned the lowest average score – 12.34. Abraham Lincoln

finished in first place

You need catagories to do this-best speaker, best wartime, best decision maker.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Warren G. Harding has just been promoted!!!!!!!

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Here me out. Back when Bush was president we said the middle class and poor were struggling and you guys pointed to the stock market. And you said anyone struggling either needed to start a business or go to school if they want a better station in life. Anyone who was struggling was responsible for themselves. I can't wait.

When Obama got into office we pointed to the stock market and you said it wasn't good enough. I don't recall that. I guess I'll just take your word for it.

You asked blue collar Americans if they were better off than they were 8 years ago. In other words suddenly the government was to blame because white blue collar workers were struggling. Suddenly? Govt. plays a role, so do a lot of things.

Never mind the stock market. Neat

And you didn't believe the unemployment rate was as low as it was. BS. Unemployment and underemployed was lower than the unemployment rate. Still waiting on info. to support your first point.

Today, the economy is booming if you are rich. It's good too if you are middle class/poor but not nearly as good as it is for the rich. Neat. The mega-wealthy are generally leftists.

Middle class people are still struggling. You got that right. Welcome to the land of global market, technology, over-population, mass immigration, and high taxes. The left promotes/owns most of it.

Trump has not made America great again. Ah fucking shucks. Right, listen to progs 24/7, they're full of shit. Trump has in FACT brought us further back to center.

He has just made it greater for the rich than Obama did. Obama did dick. If anything he was a detriment. As for Trump, he helped stimulate the USA in a global economy, and continues to do so.

“Most American workers aren’t saving at levels that will allow them to retire fully at age 65 at their current standard of living,”. Right? Most Americans are now too spoiled, selfish and live for the day to save in the first place.

Millennials also are widely predicted to become the first generation in U.S. history to do worse than their parents financially. Read my responses above, they apply.

There is a powerful temptation to equate the much-maligned personality traits of millennials with their high unemployment rate -- at 16.2 percent for young people 16 to 24, it's more than twice the national average -- and limited financial prospects [source: Ayres]. But the truth, as usual, is much more complicated. You bet it's more complicated. Read my responses above, and add the devil's tool known as the web. The left owns most of the web.

If millennials indeed become the first generation to do worse than their parents, it's less about the generation gap than the wealth gap. It's about a lot of things. Most I cited above.

It's less about entitled kids who can't stand hard work than a wholesale lack of jobs that offer a living wage for someone with limited experience. In other words, it's not just the "kids these days," but the "economy these days" that we really should be moaning about. Don't fucking tell me it's not on the kids too. By 22 I saved 12K on $6 an hour or less, and bought my first house. The house was 65K at 11% I say 11% interest. My elect. bill was $60. Today it''s $70. Gas was a $1.25, today it's about $3.50 with your high as fuck taxes. Etc. etc. Difference is I didn't need WI-Fi, cell phone, $10 beers and all the shit the millennial love so much.

Are millennials really the first generation to do worse than their parents? I doubt it.

You didn't say a single thing to support your original point. Which brings me to today's progs, you people like to say shit. Reality doesn't matter.

 

[blackhawk]

Trying to rank Presidents is stupid trying rank them while they are still in office is beyond stupid.