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The statistics every day underscore the urgency of the economic situation, and the American people expect action," the new Democratic president said in brief remarks before heading into a private meeting with Senate Republicans. "I don't expect 100 percent agreement from my Republican colleagues, but I do hope we can put politics aside."
Obama's decision to meet lawmakers on their home turf is symbolic of his desire for bipartisan backing for the stimulus plan even though fellow Democrats hold sufficient majorities in both houses to pass the measure, regardless.
Obama pushes economic plan in Congress - White House- msnbc.com
So we don't need the GOP. Obama is just trying to "work with" the GOP. Let us see if that is possible. I don't think it is, because the GOP doesn't want anything the Dems want.
They want the economy to work only for the rich, the Dems want it to work for everyone.
The Dems want good paying jobs. The GOP want tax breaks for the corporations that are moving overseas.
Etc
Every member of the GOP worth his salt will vote no. Let the Dems do it on their own. Let them own it.
I guess what you and the GOP need to understand is that as hard as you work against us, is just how hard we will make it on you.
And we own this bitch for at least 2 years, so its going to be a looooong 2 years. Heck, make it 4, no, 8 years.
For you and Bitch McConnell, its going to be a long 8 years.
And get used to hearing the name Bitch McConnell, because he's the new Bush. The new Corporate Fascist figure head. Him and Boehner.
ps, NOW take a gander at the population of KC and surrounding areas and tell me you think 213 jobs are sufficient. Hell, I had more than that in my graduation class in HIGH SCHOOL.
i agreeThe statistics every day underscore the urgency of the economic situation, and the American people expect action," the new Democratic president said in brief remarks before heading into a private meeting with Senate Republicans. "I don't expect 100 percent agreement from my Republican colleagues, but I do hope we can put politics aside."
Obama's decision to meet lawmakers on their home turf is symbolic of his desire for bipartisan backing for the stimulus plan even though fellow Democrats hold sufficient majorities in both houses to pass the measure, regardless.
Obama pushes economic plan in Congress - White House- msnbc.com
So we don't need the GOP. Obama is just trying to "work with" the GOP. Let us see if that is possible. I don't think it is, because the GOP doesn't want anything the Dems want.
They want the economy to work only for the rich, the Dems want it to work for everyone.
The Dems want good paying jobs. The GOP want tax breaks for the corporations that are moving overseas.
Etc
Every member of the GOP worth his salt will vote no. Let the Dems do it on their own. Let them own it.
i agreeThe statistics every day underscore the urgency of the economic situation, and the American people expect action," the new Democratic president said in brief remarks before heading into a private meeting with Senate Republicans. "I don't expect 100 percent agreement from my Republican colleagues, but I do hope we can put politics aside."
Obama's decision to meet lawmakers on their home turf is symbolic of his desire for bipartisan backing for the stimulus plan even though fellow Democrats hold sufficient majorities in both houses to pass the measure, regardless.
Obama pushes economic plan in Congress - White House- msnbc.com
So we don't need the GOP. Obama is just trying to "work with" the GOP. Let us see if that is possible. I don't think it is, because the GOP doesn't want anything the Dems want.
They want the economy to work only for the rich, the Dems want it to work for everyone.
The Dems want good paying jobs. The GOP want tax breaks for the corporations that are moving overseas.
Etc
Every member of the GOP worth his salt will vote no. Let the Dems do it on their own. Let them own it.
no Republican is needed for Obama to get everything he wants
they should vote as a block "no" on everything and let the chips fall where they may
if this shit he wants is so good, he shouldnt need the GOP for anything
i agreeEvery member of the GOP worth his salt will vote no. Let the Dems do it on their own. Let them own it.
no Republican is needed for Obama to get everything he wants
they should vote as a block "no" on everything and let the chips fall where they may
if this shit he wants is so good, he shouldnt need the GOP for anything
What about the Blue Dogs who aren't just going to be rubber stamps?
how is that a GOP problem?i agreeEvery member of the GOP worth his salt will vote no. Let the Dems do it on their own. Let them own it.
no Republican is needed for Obama to get everything he wants
they should vote as a block "no" on everything and let the chips fall where they may
if this shit he wants is so good, he shouldnt need the GOP for anything
What about the Blue Dogs who aren't just going to be rubber stamps?
how is that a GOP problem?i agree
no Republican is needed for Obama to get everything he wants
they should vote as a block "no" on everything and let the chips fall where they may
if this shit he wants is so good, he shouldnt need the GOP for anything
What about the Blue Dogs who aren't just going to be rubber stamps?
so????how is that a GOP problem?What about the Blue Dogs who aren't just going to be rubber stamps?
It's not. You said no republican is needed for Obama to get everything he wants, presumaby because you expect the Dems to give it to him. I asked what about the Blue Dogs, who are no doubt going to make or break Obama getting everything he wants. They won't be rubber stamping Obama like most of the liberal dems. So ultimately, he's going to end up needing some GOP votes from time to time.
so????how is that a GOP problem?
It's not. You said no republican is needed for Obama to get everything he wants, presumaby because you expect the Dems to give it to him. I asked what about the Blue Dogs, who are no doubt going to make or break Obama getting everything he wants. They won't be rubber stamping Obama like most of the liberal dems. So ultimately, he's going to end up needing some GOP votes from time to time.
if they dont pass, it wont be the GOP's fault
since they are not relevent at this point
how is that a GOP problem?What about the Blue Dogs who aren't just going to be rubber stamps?
It's not. You said no republican is needed for Obama to get everything he wants, presumaby because you expect the Dems to give it to him. I asked what about the Blue Dogs, who are no doubt going to make or break Obama getting everything he wants. They won't be rubber stamping Obama like most of the liberal dems. So ultimately, he's going to end up needing some GOP votes from time to time.
You are SPECIFICALLY bringing up the SINGLE field of nursing in your personal example. Should I have assumed that your friend is taking a minor in Cashiering and Truck Driving?
The VERY POINT of our failing economy, Pauli, is that there IS NOT AMPLE OPPORTUNITY WHEN ALL WE SEE IS WIDE SCALE LAYOFFS AND THE REDUCTION OF DOMESTIC JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
And blaming taxes is a copout and you know it. Nafta didn't raise mexican wages, they LOWERED AMERICAN wages. It takes a giant leap through the bullshit ring to keep blaming taxes when it's CLEAR that the class you keep defend will cry and bitch about labor cost REGARDLESS of their own profit margin. It's called greed and it's not brand spanking new just because WSJ capitalistas are looking at losing their grip on our economic climate.
and yes, these companies don't get income by marketing to fucking Indian or Mexican paupers. If that were the case, they wouldn't use American consumers like a constantly bloody tampon when they could relocate. WE are still the consumers of the world and, that being the case, get to decide who can sell here or not. Hence terrifs on ALL foreign goods that are imported beyond our trade deficit. If you can't value your own house then perhaps you should move.
let me remind you: I may not be entitled to a job but neither are business ENTITLED to do business here. We the people voted and, in the words of a chrony from england, you WSJ free market scheisters lose.
I brought up a couple different fields in our limited exchange, and each time you generalized them as being the only field worth considering. Let's just cut to the chase and establish that I'm saying that there are MULTIPLE fields that are looking for workers RIGHT NOW. Jobs are being lost RIGHT NOW, because our economy is currently down the toilet. You and I probably don't even agree on why THAT is, so this conversation is ultimately going to go nowhere.
You ultimately blame trade deficits, and I don't. I blame our monetary policy. I blame inflation progressively and consistently rising over the course of the last 100 years, and wages not moving in lockstep. I believe that is becuase business owners know that the economic environment is one where we go through too many business cycles and see too much inflation followed by too much deflation, and so on and so on, ad nauseum. Continually raising wages to keep up with inflation is financial suicide, because when the next bubble bursts and we spriral into deflation, those wages are not going to be sustainable as Dollars become scarce, like we're seeing today. That's only going to lead to layoffs and downsizing, in the end. We're seeing record layoffs NOW, imagine if wages had been even HIGHER to account for inflation increases over the last, say, 20 years? We could very well be seeing TWICE these job losses, if not more.
It's chicken/egg. Trade deficits are being affected by monetary policy. And for the record, I don't support a single free trade agreement that's ever been signed onto by the US. You don't need a treaty to practice free trade. I understand that those treaties are crony deals just as much as you do.
You are SPECIFICALLY bringing up the SINGLE field of nursing in your personal example. Should I have assumed that your friend is taking a minor in Cashiering and Truck Driving?
The VERY POINT of our failing economy, Pauli, is that there IS NOT AMPLE OPPORTUNITY WHEN ALL WE SEE IS WIDE SCALE LAYOFFS AND THE REDUCTION OF DOMESTIC JOB OPPORTUNITIES.
And blaming taxes is a copout and you know it. Nafta didn't raise mexican wages, they LOWERED AMERICAN wages. It takes a giant leap through the bullshit ring to keep blaming taxes when it's CLEAR that the class you keep defend will cry and bitch about labor cost REGARDLESS of their own profit margin. It's called greed and it's not brand spanking new just because WSJ capitalistas are looking at losing their grip on our economic climate.
and yes, these companies don't get income by marketing to fucking Indian or Mexican paupers. If that were the case, they wouldn't use American consumers like a constantly bloody tampon when they could relocate. WE are still the consumers of the world and, that being the case, get to decide who can sell here or not. Hence terrifs on ALL foreign goods that are imported beyond our trade deficit. If you can't value your own house then perhaps you should move.
let me remind you: I may not be entitled to a job but neither are business ENTITLED to do business here. We the people voted and, in the words of a chrony from england, you WSJ free market scheisters lose.
Double the price of people's $500 32" HDTV's and $500 PC's, $250 game consoles, $8 t-shirts, $6 baseballs, $2 toilet brushes, etc....and people here will revolt on any protectionism. Made in USA campaign died from the REALITY of the global economy, 20 years ago....and remains dead as ever.
the money will go to all the state projects that were put on hold.....then you will watch all the state projects restatr and obama claim record employment......the private sector well still be fucked...
