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What were the complaints? That invading Iraq was a bad idea? That torturing suspects flew in the face of the American notion of justice and fair play? That borrowing the money to prosecute the wars from China was not a sound decision? That the war in Iraq was costing us too much in lives, treasure and international prestige?During Bush's two terms Jillian and the left on this boiard had a fit when ever it even remotely appeared that politics were played with the war on terror. Obama and his campaign are trotting it out like a good show pony event and not a peep from the left EXCEPT praise.
Just wondering where all those complaints went?
What were the complaints? That invading Iraq was a bad idea? That torturing suspects flew in the face of the American notion of justice and fair play? That borrowing the money to prosecute the wars from China was not a sound decision? That the war in Iraq was costing us too much in lives, treasure and international prestige?During Bush's two terms Jillian and the left on this boiard had a fit when ever it even remotely appeared that politics were played with the war on terror. Obama and his campaign are trotting it out like a good show pony event and not a peep from the left EXCEPT praise.
Just wondering where all those complaints went?
Were those the complaints?
i think obama has used the war, the terrorist and the military to the best of his ability to look like something he is not. just as he has ask the country to be frugal and endure hard times while he parties like a rock star? but there is no outcry..there was no outcry when he signed into laws bills that allow citizens to be held with no trial.....where was the outcry then? is it the media...no cause plenty of us know about it...or is it the fact that the citizens of the us dont educate themselves beyond party chants and mantra....but is there really any differences in the two parties? is there?
During Bush's two terms Jillian and the left on this boiard had a fit when ever it even remotely appeared that politics were played with the war on terror. Obama and his campaign are trotting it out like a good show pony event and not a peep from the left EXCEPT praise.
Just wondering where all those complaints went?
If obamaturd has his way we will.i think obama has used the war, the terrorist and the military to the best of his ability to look like something he is not. just as he has ask the country to be frugal and endure hard times while he parties like a rock star? but there is no outcry..there was no outcry when he signed into laws bills that allow citizens to be held with no trial.....where was the outcry then? is it the media...no cause plenty of us know about it...or is it the fact that the citizens of the us dont educate themselves beyond party chants and mantra....but is there really any differences in the two parties? is there?
Sometimes people get the gov't - they deserve
Politics being what it is in this country
I suspect the serious issues ahead of us will be put off till
the last minute- when there is no more choice
We may end up like Greece
During Bush's two terms Jillian and the left on this boiard had a fit when ever it even remotely appeared that politics were played with the war on terror. Obama and his campaign are trotting it out like a good show pony event and not a peep from the left EXCEPT praise.
Just wondering where all those complaints went?
i think obama has used the war, the terrorist and the military to the best of his ability to look like something he is not. just as he has ask the country to be frugal and endure hard times while he parties like a rock star? but there is no outcry..there was no outcry when he signed into laws bills that allow citizens to be held with no trial.....where was the outcry then? is it the media...no cause plenty of us know about it...or is it the fact that the citizens of the us dont educate themselves beyond party chants and mantra....but is there really any differences in the two parties? is there?
CON$ always rewrite history. Bush played games with the color coded terror alerts for political gain, especially in the run up to the 2004 election, and his own people admitted it. Bush did that because he had no accomplishments to tout! In 2004 he was losing both wars badly and had given up on killing his Butt Buddy Osama Bin Forgotten. That's quite different from Obama's successfully killing Bush's Butt Buddy Osama Bin Forgotten. Obama has not ginned up phony terror alerts like Bush did.During Bush's two terms Jillian and the left on this boiard had a fit when ever it even remotely appeared that politics were played with the war on terror. Obama and his campaign are trotting it out like a good show pony event and not a peep from the left EXCEPT praise.
Just wondering where all those complaints went?
CON$ always rewrite history. Bush played games with the color coded terror alerts for political gain, especially in the run up to the 2004 election, and his own people admitted it. Bush did that because he had no accomplishments to tout! In 2004 he was losing both wars badly and had given up on killing his Butt Buddy Osama Bin Forgotten. That's quite different from Obama's successfully killing Bush's Butt Buddy Osama Bin Forgotten. Obama has not ginned up phony terror alerts like Bush did.During Bush's two terms Jillian and the left on this boiard had a fit when ever it even remotely appeared that politics were played with the war on terror. Obama and his campaign are trotting it out like a good show pony event and not a peep from the left EXCEPT praise.
Just wondering where all those complaints went?
AFP: Politics colored US 'terror alert': Former Bush aide
Politics colored US 'terror alert': Former Bush aide
By Olivier Knox (AFP) Aug 20, 2009
WASHINGTON Former US homeland security chief Tom Ridge charges in a new book that top aides to then-president George W. Bush pressured him to raise the "terror alert" level to sway the November 2004 US election.
Then defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld and attorney general John Ashcroft pushed him to elevate the color-coded threat level, but Ridge refused, according to a summary from his publisher, Thomas Dunne Books.
"After that episode, I knew I had to follow through with my plans to leave the federal government for the private sector," Ridge is quoted as writing in "The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege ... And How We Can Be Safe Again."
Some of Bush's critics had repeatedly questioned whether the administration was using warnings of a possible attack to blunt the political damage from the unpopular Iraq war by shifting the debate to the broader "war on terrorism," which had wide popular appeal.
Fran Townsend, Bush's homeland security adviser at the White House, disputed Ridge's account, saying: "There was never a discussion of politics in the terror alerts discussions in the four and a half years I was there."
Ridge, a former governor of Pennsylvania, was the first secretary of the US Department of Homeland Security that the US Congress created in response to the September 11, 2001 terrorist strikes.
He also says that Townsend called his department ahead of an August 1, 2004 speech to ask Ridge to include a reference to "defensive measures ... away from home" -- language that he read as being a reference to the Iraq war.
In those remarks, Ridge said he was raising the threat alert level for the financial services sector in New York City, northern New Jersey, and Washington DC, and went on to praise Bush's leadership against extremism.
"The reports that have led to this alert are the result of offensive intelligence and military operations overseas, as well as strong partnerships with our allies around the world, such as Pakistan," said Ridge.
"Such operations and partnerships give us insight into the enemy so we can better target our defensive measures here and away from home," he said at the time.
He later publicly acknowledged that much of the information underpinning the new alert was three years old, stoking Bush critics' charges of political manipulation.
Townsend told AFP by telephone that Ridge had sent her his remarks in advance of the speech and asked that she forward them around the White House for comment, and that he was free to disregard such the advice.
"The only reason I saw his words is that he sent them to me, and asked that I circulate them for comment," she said. "It was up to him, ultimately, what he was going to say."
But Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg, a frequent critic of the color-coded alert system, said Thursday that Ridge's book "confirms our worst suspicions."
"Just like they did in Iraq, the Bush Administration manipulated intelligence to cause fear in the public to further its political goals," he said in a statement.
You should know since you are the one lying!CON$ always rewrite history. Bush played games with the color coded terror alerts for political gain, especially in the run up to the 2004 election, and his own people admitted it. Bush did that because he had no accomplishments to tout! In 2004 he was losing both wars badly and had given up on killing his Butt Buddy Osama Bin Forgotten. That's quite different from Obama's successfully killing Bush's Butt Buddy Osama Bin Forgotten. Obama has not ginned up phony terror alerts like Bush did.During Bush's two terms Jillian and the left on this boiard had a fit when ever it even remotely appeared that politics were played with the war on terror. Obama and his campaign are trotting it out like a good show pony event and not a peep from the left EXCEPT praise.
Just wondering where all those complaints went?
AFP: Politics colored US 'terror alert': Former Bush aide
Politics colored US 'terror alert': Former Bush aide
By Olivier Knox (AFP) Aug 20, 2009
WASHINGTON Former US homeland security chief Tom Ridge charges in a new book that top aides to then-president George W. Bush pressured him to raise the "terror alert" level to sway the November 2004 US election.
Then defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld and attorney general John Ashcroft pushed him to elevate the color-coded threat level, but Ridge refused, according to a summary from his publisher, Thomas Dunne Books.
"After that episode, I knew I had to follow through with my plans to leave the federal government for the private sector," Ridge is quoted as writing in "The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege ... And How We Can Be Safe Again."
Some of Bush's critics had repeatedly questioned whether the administration was using warnings of a possible attack to blunt the political damage from the unpopular Iraq war by shifting the debate to the broader "war on terrorism," which had wide popular appeal.
Fran Townsend, Bush's homeland security adviser at the White House, disputed Ridge's account, saying: "There was never a discussion of politics in the terror alerts discussions in the four and a half years I was there."
Ridge, a former governor of Pennsylvania, was the first secretary of the US Department of Homeland Security that the US Congress created in response to the September 11, 2001 terrorist strikes.
He also says that Townsend called his department ahead of an August 1, 2004 speech to ask Ridge to include a reference to "defensive measures ... away from home" -- language that he read as being a reference to the Iraq war.
In those remarks, Ridge said he was raising the threat alert level for the financial services sector in New York City, northern New Jersey, and Washington DC, and went on to praise Bush's leadership against extremism.
"The reports that have led to this alert are the result of offensive intelligence and military operations overseas, as well as strong partnerships with our allies around the world, such as Pakistan," said Ridge.
"Such operations and partnerships give us insight into the enemy so we can better target our defensive measures here and away from home," he said at the time.
He later publicly acknowledged that much of the information underpinning the new alert was three years old, stoking Bush critics' charges of political manipulation.
Townsend told AFP by telephone that Ridge had sent her his remarks in advance of the speech and asked that she forward them around the White House for comment, and that he was free to disregard such the advice.
"The only reason I saw his words is that he sent them to me, and asked that I circulate them for comment," she said. "It was up to him, ultimately, what he was going to say."
But Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg, a frequent critic of the color-coded alert system, said Thursday that Ridge's book "confirms our worst suspicions."
"Just like they did in Iraq, the Bush Administration manipulated intelligence to cause fear in the public to further its political goals," he said in a statement.
Any lie will do when caught right? Just like how 6 trillion in 8 years was VERY bad but 6 trillion in 4 is suddenly good. Right?
You should know since you are the one lying!CON$ always rewrite history. Bush played games with the color coded terror alerts for political gain, especially in the run up to the 2004 election, and his own people admitted it. Bush did that because he had no accomplishments to tout! In 2004 he was losing both wars badly and had given up on killing his Butt Buddy Osama Bin Forgotten. That's quite different from Obama's successfully killing Bush's Butt Buddy Osama Bin Forgotten. Obama has not ginned up phony terror alerts like Bush did.
AFP: Politics colored US 'terror alert': Former Bush aide
Politics colored US 'terror alert': Former Bush aide
By Olivier Knox (AFP) Aug 20, 2009
WASHINGTON Former US homeland security chief Tom Ridge charges in a new book that top aides to then-president George W. Bush pressured him to raise the "terror alert" level to sway the November 2004 US election.
Then defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld and attorney general John Ashcroft pushed him to elevate the color-coded threat level, but Ridge refused, according to a summary from his publisher, Thomas Dunne Books.
"After that episode, I knew I had to follow through with my plans to leave the federal government for the private sector," Ridge is quoted as writing in "The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege ... And How We Can Be Safe Again."
Some of Bush's critics had repeatedly questioned whether the administration was using warnings of a possible attack to blunt the political damage from the unpopular Iraq war by shifting the debate to the broader "war on terrorism," which had wide popular appeal.
Fran Townsend, Bush's homeland security adviser at the White House, disputed Ridge's account, saying: "There was never a discussion of politics in the terror alerts discussions in the four and a half years I was there."
Ridge, a former governor of Pennsylvania, was the first secretary of the US Department of Homeland Security that the US Congress created in response to the September 11, 2001 terrorist strikes.
He also says that Townsend called his department ahead of an August 1, 2004 speech to ask Ridge to include a reference to "defensive measures ... away from home" -- language that he read as being a reference to the Iraq war.
In those remarks, Ridge said he was raising the threat alert level for the financial services sector in New York City, northern New Jersey, and Washington DC, and went on to praise Bush's leadership against extremism.
"The reports that have led to this alert are the result of offensive intelligence and military operations overseas, as well as strong partnerships with our allies around the world, such as Pakistan," said Ridge.
"Such operations and partnerships give us insight into the enemy so we can better target our defensive measures here and away from home," he said at the time.
He later publicly acknowledged that much of the information underpinning the new alert was three years old, stoking Bush critics' charges of political manipulation.
Townsend told AFP by telephone that Ridge had sent her his remarks in advance of the speech and asked that she forward them around the White House for comment, and that he was free to disregard such the advice.
"The only reason I saw his words is that he sent them to me, and asked that I circulate them for comment," she said. "It was up to him, ultimately, what he was going to say."
But Democratic Senator Frank Lautenberg, a frequent critic of the color-coded alert system, said Thursday that Ridge's book "confirms our worst suspicions."
"Just like they did in Iraq, the Bush Administration manipulated intelligence to cause fear in the public to further its political goals," he said in a statement.
Any lie will do when caught right? Just like how 6 trillion in 8 years was VERY bad but 6 trillion in 4 is suddenly good. Right?
