Where does it end?

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    Newton —In the beginning, there was a 10th-grader who took a silly stand.

    And a bunch of adults who caved in and made some bad decisions.

    When Newton South High School officials waived two Honors English quizzes for 10th-grader Jack Summers, their decision not only did Summers a disservice, it set a precedent that could allow students to appeal all sorts of assignments in the future.

    The Bible as literature is part of the 10th-grade curriculum at Newton South and part of the state frameworks. Because Summers is a self-proclaimed atheist, he refused to read it and take two quizzes. But nowhere in the syllabus are students asked to believe what they read any more than they are asked to believe in Greek gods when they read Homer. The Bible exists, regardless of whether the stories are true. For Summers, not knowing Bible stories will create a deficit in his academic life, particularly as he delves deeper into literature.

    South officials weren’t just making a decision for Summers, though. They were permitting future students to exempt themselves from particular curriculum. What about students who are vegetarians? Do they have to read books that involve the killing of animals? Some 11th-graders at Newton South read Tim O’Brien’s “The Things They Carried” about the Vietnam War. Should pacifists have to read such a detailed book?

    The list goes on. Fifteen-year-olds should not decide what they will and will not read for an English class. The adults who made this decision failed Summers and the rest of our community.

    http://www.wickedlocal.com/newton/n...n-TAB-Editorial-Bible-lessons-at-Newton-South

    Newton school officials mixed on Bible lesson waiver - Newton, Massachusetts - Newton TAB

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    I agree - a disservice.
     
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    This is bs but it doesn't surprise me. There was a dicussion last week about how my school can legally waive the phy ed requirement because we have a number of students refusing to participate. They don't like getting changed in front of others so "we shouldn't make them". Kids today have confused "its a free country" with "I don't have to do anything that I don't want to". Self expression is deemed more important than self control, self respect. and even education. Thank the lawyers.
     
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    parents have forgotten how to tell their kids to shut the fuck up and get off their asses...kids have a greater sense of entitlement than baby boomers...
     
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    I wonder what the responses here would be had he refused to read the Koran, or if he'd refused to read...

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    (as an aside...I wonder if he plays football for the South Newton Fighting Figs...)
     
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    If the district required it it would be the same The kid can argue the curriculum and his parents are free to run for the school board. But children should not be able tp pick and choose what book they want to read. Unless they are home schooled.

    If they were forced to read about butt sex and jihad, they have more important issues to worry about than the honor roll.

    Personally I don't think the Bible needs to be taught but I don't live in that town, Obviouly the folks there do.
     
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    When I went to school, there were controversial books on one reading list that I remember, including The Bible and The Koran... The solution was choice.

    We were given a list of 12 books, we had to pick, read and report on 9. End of discussion.

    I really liked my literature teacher, as I recall.
     
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    Was the Bible stamped "This is only a Theory"?
     
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    actually, there was no bible at all, just passages in the form of handouts.

    i wish i'd thought of this- i would have claimed calculus offended me.
     
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    Amen----English comp made me break out in hives !
     

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