Where do white people come from?

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    All this angst over Black History month (a yearly event, both Black history and the angst) got me wondering.

    Where do white people come from?
    Why do white people divide themselves further into groups...i.e. Irish, German, Anglo-Saxon, etc?
    If you are white, hispanic and black would you be able to celebrate black history month and hispanic heritage month?
    Why do so many not consider hispanics to be white?
    Why don't wingers celebrate European American history month?

    Oh, jeesh! I forgot about the orientals. :redface:

    Thoughts?
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    And if a mod would be kind enough to change "to" to "do" in my title I would be grateful. :lol:
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    I dunno.

    I'm just a monkey.
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    as a white man i asked this question to myself.

    My theory: Grudge.

    From all "Races", the "Whites" are the ugliest.

    I´ve never seen an ugly black, asian, oriental, hispanic woman.

    But white ones? Hell...

    No wonder that we are these all-time mulligrubs.
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    All humans can trace their ancestry back to Africa, where presumably, people had curly hair and dark skin. Those who migrated North evidentially found some adaptive value in lower and lower levels of melonin -- why, I dunno, nor do I know why straight hair or blue eyes, etc. emerged as traits.

    Evolution of Modern Humans:  Early Modern Homo sapiens

    "Race" as applied to humans is not a biologically sound concept. A white person and a black person, etc. are not members of different species. For biological classification purposes, mammals belong to different species if they cannot produce fertile offspring. (Think mules, the offspring of donkeys and horses.)

    Confusions About Human Races

    Race as applied to humans is a purely social concept, and over time, the boundaries of who is and who is not considered "white" has changed quite a bit. Hispanics, Southern Europeans and Arabs have all been in and out of that social group at one time or another.

    Caucasian race - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    People seem to have a propensity to xenophobia or some other common character defect that makes them identify with the place where they were born or the religion they follow, etc. and to be antagonistic to at least some nearby neighbors. One quick look at the history of the region now know as Czechsolvakia proves that, though similar tensions exist almost everywhere on Planet Earth (except possibly in island nations).

    (This is my own opinion and observation. I could find a link, but I can't find a scholarly one just this minute.)

    The "racial identity" of some people whose parents have very different ethnicities has been foisted on them. In the past, it was common for others to view anyone with "one drop" of African blood as black.

    "One-Drop Rule" - BlackHistory.com

    But this is changing, probably because "mixed marriages" have grown more common. Young people with complex backgrounds now are less and less comfy claiming one and denying the others, and it's more common to hear "I'm biracial", etc. than it once was.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/30/us/30mixed.html?_r=1&scp=1&sq=iracial%20kids&st=cse

    I can't explain the white supremacist movement. I suspect it all comes down to inadequacy and fear, or mebbe they're just assholes.
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    I sometimes think the human race is losing.
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    If we did, we would be called racist.
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    White people and negroes are arguably the same species..yes..but they are different breeds..Like a Rottweiler is a dog and a chihuahua is a dog...but they are entirely different breeds.

    The problem with the Out of Africa theory, is that it is just a theory.
    Do you give much credence to Multi regional theory? or parallel origin theory?


    What makes you think that Australopithecines was Black, though?
    Just because Blacks make up the majority of the population in Africa today, doesn't mean that was always the case.
    Cro Magnon were not Black, Neither were Neanderthals, Hottentots or any of the other people who preceded the Black Africans.
    Whites and Asians are the only group known to have Neanderthal DNA.

    You realize black skin didn't mutate until after humans had lost their fur?
    Africans evolved to be black-skinned after ages in a sun-baked land promoted the proliferation of melanin in their hides.
    Neanderthals are thought to have been light skin and the Neanderthal race or species is much older than Homo sapien 600,000 vs. 200,000 years.
    It is much more likely that the first humans were light skinned and hairy as opposed to being dark skinned.
    At this point in time in Africa, the climate was much different than today. The Sahara didn't exist, it was lush grassland and what is now jungle was forests. There was no biological reason for the first people in Africa to be dark skinned.
    Instead of saying 'we all used to be Black' or 'we all have Black ancestry', maybe we should be saying 'we all used to be White' or 'we all have White ancestry'.
    The horrible joke on the negroid race would be if it was discovered they are descendants of a White skinned population..

    hahahaha..LMFAO...Imagine!
    Instead of evolving, humanity in terms of negroes devolved.
    De-evolution is certainly possible. Geographic isolation in the Congo valley limiting the mating pool, intermixing with pygmies or non-Homo sapien forms, and so forth could of given rise to the distinct physical and behavioral characteristics that exist today in the Black African.

    The placement of the first humans in Africa is political. It is just as likely that the first human populations arose in Arabia or Central Asia. But picking Africa serves a purpose.
    It bolsters the equality agenda by suggesting everyone is the same and everyone shares a kinship with Blacks.






    Do you see millions of Whites trying to sneak into non-White countries? Do you see Whites demanding to live in non-White neighborhoods? It is always the reverse. Apparently it's the other races that really believe in white supremacy.
    ;)
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    History just not your bag, eh? Prior to 1600 or so, the entire US was a non-white area of the world.
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    Main Entry: social construct
    Part of Speech: n

    Definition: a social mechanism, phenomenon, or category created and developed by society; a perception of an individual, group, or idea that is 'constructed' through cultural or social practice

    A social construct is anything that exists as a product of human social interaction instead of by virtue of objective, human-independent existence. Social constructs are said to be the result of social facts, things that are true of our social world or human existence, as opposed to natural facts.

    In other words it's artificial...manufactured...unrealistic...inaccurate...
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    Yes, it was. So? What's your point about the u.s.?

    EDIT:
    I'd like to debate some more and I dispute some of your claims but I'm not smart enough to know how to multi quote and parse and insert the quotes with links between all the colors and fonts and it's too labor intensive to cut and paste everything..hell with it......sorry. There are a few points I won't get to.
    I don't concede..I guess I'll just withdraw
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    It is hard to figure out the quote thingie. And we have too many different topics under discussion at once.

    If you feel up to it, why not post just one assertion of your own that you'd like to pursue? If there's more than one, mebbe use separate posts?
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    So it's fear...:eusa_eh:
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    I'd imagine no one bothered to play it, Ian. I sure didn't. But let me take a wild guess...."blacks are inferior" is the theme?

    Tank's a bit of a one trick pony whose one trick is biting his own butt.
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    I don't see what they have in common, Ravi. Even assuming that all white people are European (and where that leaves Americans, Australians, Canadians, Russians, etc. I haven't a clue), they don't speak the same language. They don't have a cooperative history. They don't share the same climate.

    "European culture" just seems to me like a goofy attempt to cobble together a whole bunch of people who traditionally have hated each other.

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