CDZ Where did the jobs go, Mr. Trump?

[Fishlore]

Trump has made his political fortune on promising to deal with all those foreigners and illegal immigrants who have stolen jobs from Rustbelt American workers. This promise has particular appeal in the Mid-West, where the automotive industry has been the lynchpin of manufacturing and seen more than its share of shut-down factories. Sure enough, the top two auto automotive producers are Michigan and Ohio. Together they employ over a million workers. Next comes Indiana but coming ahead of Illinois is Texas, whose 502 auto manufacturing establishments put the Lone Star State just behind Indiana's 519 and just ahead of Illinois with its 371. Big player, Texas. That's the top five auto states.



The next five on the list are the real surprise. Theyare, in order, Tennessee, Missouri, Kentucky, Alabama and Mississippi. Notice anything funny there? These are all low-wage Southern states! That's were those American jobs have gone. It isn't starving Mexicans who have gutted the Mid-West manufacturing, its the Good Old Boys whose votes are the new base of the Republican Party.



Trump promises to bring back jobs. He rants at Mexico and China. Recently he has put South Korea on the list, but the one thing he won't tell those voters in Michigan and Ohio is that the place their jobs have actually gone to is Kentucky (Mitch McConnell), and Alabama (Jeff Sessions), and, yes, even Mississippi!

 

[william the wie]

They can relocate

 

[Wyatt earp]

Trump has made his political fortune on promising to deal with all those foreigners and illegal immigrants who have stolen jobs from Rustbelt American workers. This promise has particular appeal in the Mid-West, where the automotive industry has been the lynchpin of manufacturing and seen more than its share of shut-down factories. Sure enough, the top two auto automotive producers are Michigan and Ohio. Together they employ over a million workers. Next comes Indiana but coming ahead of Illinois is Texas, whose 502 auto manufacturing establishments put the Lone Star State just behind Indiana's 519 and just ahead of Illinois with its 371. Big player, Texas. That's the top five auto states.



The next five on the list are the real surprise. Theyare, in order, Tennessee, Missouri, Kentucky, Alabama and Mississippi. Notice anything funny there? These are all low-wage Southern states! That's were those American jobs have gone. It isn't starving Mexicans who have gutted the Mid-West manufacturing, its the Good Old Boys whose votes are the new base of the Republican Party.



Trump promises to bring back jobs. He rants at Mexico and China. Recently he has put South Korea on the list, but the one thing he won't tell those voters in Michigan and Ohio is that the place their jobs have actually gone to is Kentucky (Mitch McConnell), and Alabama (Jeff Sessions), and, yes, even Mississippi!

Being dishonest much?
Remind us when Michigan ever had BMW, Volvo, Volkswagen, Toyota, honda.......

 

[Fishlore]

Trump has made his political fortune on promising to deal with all those foreigners and illegal immigrants who have stolen jobs from Rustbelt American workers. This promise has particular appeal in the Mid-West, where the automotive industry has been the lynchpin of manufacturing and seen more than its share of shut-down factories. Sure enough, the top two auto automotive producers are Michigan and Ohio. Together they employ over a million workers. Next comes Indiana but coming ahead of Illinois is Texas, whose 502 auto manufacturing establishments put the Lone Star State just behind Indiana's 519 and just ahead of Illinois with its 371. Big player, Texas. That's the top five auto states.



The next five on the list are the real surprise. Theyare, in order, Tennessee, Missouri, Kentucky, Alabama and Mississippi. Notice anything funny there? These are all low-wage Southern states! That's were those American jobs have gone. It isn't starving Mexicans who have gutted the Mid-West manufacturing, its the Good Old Boys whose votes are the new base of the Republican Party.



Trump promises to bring back jobs. He rants at Mexico and China. Recently he has put South Korea on the list, but the one thing he won't tell those voters in Michigan and Ohio is that the place their jobs have actually gone to is Kentucky (Mitch McConnell), and Alabama (Jeff Sessions), and, yes, even Mississippi!

Being dishonest much?
Remind us when Michigan ever had BMW, Volvo, Volkswagen, Toyota, honda.......

Stupid like that all the time?
The Pellagra Belt hijacked the automotive industry by offering foreign companies the chance to make money by lowering American manufacturing wages, taking multi-million dollar bribes from crooked state governors and hiring dumb crackers to bolt foreign parts together.

 

[william the wie]

Trump has made his political fortune on promising to deal with all those foreigners and illegal immigrants who have stolen jobs from Rustbelt American workers. This promise has particular appeal in the Mid-West, where the automotive industry has been the lynchpin of manufacturing and seen more than its share of shut-down factories. Sure enough, the top two auto automotive producers are Michigan and Ohio. Together they employ over a million workers. Next comes Indiana but coming ahead of Illinois is Texas, whose 502 auto manufacturing establishments put the Lone Star State just behind Indiana's 519 and just ahead of Illinois with its 371. Big player, Texas. That's the top five auto states.



The next five on the list are the real surprise. Theyare, in order, Tennessee, Missouri, Kentucky, Alabama and Mississippi. Notice anything funny there? These are all low-wage Southern states! That's were those American jobs have gone. It isn't starving Mexicans who have gutted the Mid-West manufacturing, its the Good Old Boys whose votes are the new base of the Republican Party.



Trump promises to bring back jobs. He rants at Mexico and China. Recently he has put South Korea on the list, but the one thing he won't tell those voters in Michigan and Ohio is that the place their jobs have actually gone to is Kentucky (Mitch McConnell), and Alabama (Jeff Sessions), and, yes, even Mississippi!

Being dishonest much?
Remind us when Michigan ever had BMW, Volvo, Volkswagen, Toyota, honda.......

American workers only count in the Bull Wall dystopia.

 

[anotherlife]

In that case, why don't all those Detroit pions just pack and go over to Alabama? Is their unemployment cheque higher than the Mississippi wages?

A huge part of the story is missing, looks like.

 

[BlueGin]

Ironically the ad running on USMB right above this thread in huge red letters. COSTCO HIRING

 

[Wyatt earp]

Stupid like that all the time?

First off you put this thread in the flame zone and then you insult poster's of your thread ....what a coward and what a little prick.

The Pellagra Belt hijacked the automotive industry by offering foreign companies the chance to make money by lowering American manufacturing wages,

Give us a link

taking multi-million dollar bribes from crooked state governors

And once again give us a link

and hiring dumb crackers to bolt foreign parts together.

1 Once again being dishonest, we make a bunch of the car parts here.

2. So it doesn't take a high paid union worker to assemble a quality car...


Oh wait when did ever a Union worker assemble a high quality car?

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[Fishlore]

In that case, why don't all those Detroit pions just pack and go over to Alabama? Is their unemployment cheque higher than the Mississippi wages?

A huge part of the story is missing, looks like.

What is a "pion"?

 

[anotherlife]

In that case, why don't all those Detroit pions just pack and go over to Alabama? Is their unemployment cheque higher than the Mississippi wages?

A huge part of the story is missing, looks like.

What is a "pion"?

The pion is a working class English word, I think, and it's meaning is those people who are such losers that they partied themselves out of their jobs and refuse to get a new job.

 

[Moonglow]

In that case, why don't all those Detroit pions just pack and go over to Alabama? Is their unemployment cheque higher than the Mississippi wages?

A huge part of the story is missing, looks like.

What is a "pion"?

The pion is a working class English word, I think, and it's meaning is those people who are such losers that they partied themselves out of their jobs and refuse to get a new job.

peon is the word you be looking for?

 

[anotherlife]

In that case, why don't all those Detroit pions just pack and go over to Alabama? Is their unemployment cheque higher than the Mississippi wages?

A huge part of the story is missing, looks like.

What is a "pion"?

The pion is a working class English word, I think, and it's meaning is those people who are such losers that they partied themselves out of their jobs and refuse to get a new job.

peon is the word you be looking for?

Yes. Sorry my English is not all that good especially spelling. Yes, peon is the word.

 

[Moonglow]

New steel mills and the auto industry moved to the south...What hurt the US the most is cheap imports of products undermining our manufacturing base, which is what nations do to each other..

 

[Moonglow]

In that case, why don't all those Detroit pions just pack and go over to Alabama? Is their unemployment cheque higher than the Mississippi wages?

A huge part of the story is missing, looks like.

What is a "pion"?

The pion is a working class English word, I think, and it's meaning is those people who are such losers that they partied themselves out of their jobs and refuse to get a new job.

peon is the word you be looking for?

Yes. Sorry my English is not all that good especially spelling. Yes, peon is the word.

For me it's a constant struggle..

 

[anotherlife]

New steel mills and the auto industry moved to the south...What hurt the US the most is cheap imports of products undermining our manufacturing base, which is what nations do to each other..

That is true. For an industry to continue with product development, the players need to be able to pull capital together. But American manufacturing has bled its money all away on faulty government regulations, employee pensions, and Union finances. So now if for example a New York construction company is looking for construction steel, they can only buy it from places like Sweden or China or India, otherwise they lose out on modern material advantages.

Most Americans believe that turning industries into financial schemes and sweatshops is the way to the future. Even Bangladesh knows that it is not.

 

[Picaro]

New steel mills and the auto industry moved to the south...What hurt the US the most is cheap imports of products undermining our manufacturing base, which is what nations do to each other..

That is true. For an industry to continue with product development, the players need to be able to pull capital together. But American manufacturing has bled its money all away on faulty government regulations, employee pensions, and Union finances. So now if for example a New York construction company is looking for construction steel, they can only buy it from places like Sweden or China or India, otherwise they lose out on modern material advantages.

Most Americans believe that turning industries into financial schemes and sweatshops is the way to the future. Even Bangladesh knows that it is not.

American business problems are entirely self-inflicted, and have zero to do with unions or govt. regs, and everything to do with stupid management decisions, and subsidies to move overseas and take advantage of labor racketeering and transfer pricing schemes.

When they were all whining about 'Japanese dumping', the labor cost differences were only about and average of $600 per car, not enough to swing buyers to buy Japanese; the major cost differences came from such items as advertising, with the Japanese spending an average of $800 per car while GM and Ford were spending over $2,000+, and of course they also sold off their profitable subsidiaries for a quick buck and a good quarterly report, and zero concern for long term planning, among other things, like speeding up production lines and not caring about the consequent decrease in quality that causes. Meanwhile, the Japanese production lines were cranking out high quality using production methods developed by an American named Deming, ironically.

American businessmen and the financial sector merely lobbied for laws that made it a lot more profitable to to loot companies and run them into the ground than actually produce something.

 

[anotherlife]

New steel mills and the auto industry moved to the south...What hurt the US the most is cheap imports of products undermining our manufacturing base, which is what nations do to each other..

That is true. For an industry to continue with product development, the players need to be able to pull capital together. But American manufacturing has bled its money all away on faulty government regulations, employee pensions, and Union finances. So now if for example a New York construction company is looking for construction steel, they can only buy it from places like Sweden or China or India, otherwise they lose out on modern material advantages.

Most Americans believe that turning industries into financial schemes and sweatshops is the way to the future. Even Bangladesh knows that it is not.

American business problems are entirely self-inflicted, and have zero to do with unions or govt. regs, and everything to do with stupid management decisions, and subsidies to move overseas and take advantage of labor racketeering and transfer pricing schemes.

When they were all whining about 'Japanese dumping', the labor cost differences were only about and average of $600 per car, not enough to swing buyers to buy Japanese; the major cost differences came from such items as advertising, with the Japanese spending an average of $800 per car while GM and Ford were spending over $2,000+, and of course they also sold off their profitable subsidiaries for a quick buck and a good quarterly report, and zero concern for long term planning, among other things, like speeding up production lines and not caring about the consequent decrease in quality that causes. Meanwhile, the Japanese production lines were cranking out high quality using production methods developed by an American named Deming, ironically.

American businessmen and the financial sector merely lobbied for laws that made it a lot more profitable to to loot companies and run them into the ground than actually produce something.

Very interesting. So looks like it is the financial scheming that applies. And Americans still keep on pumping unlimited cash into them.

 

[deanrd]

87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated and are never coming back.

100% of Republicans are dupes while only 90% are white.

We don't know the percentage that are racist. Estimates vary from 50 to 90%.

From USMB comments, it's closer to 90%.

 

[Moonglow]

New steel mills and the auto industry moved to the south...What hurt the US the most is cheap imports of products undermining our manufacturing base, which is what nations do to each other..

That is true. For an industry to continue with product development, the players need to be able to pull capital together. But American manufacturing has bled its money all away on faulty government regulations, employee pensions, and Union finances. So now if for example a New York construction company is looking for construction steel, they can only buy it from places like Sweden or China or India, otherwise they lose out on modern material advantages.

Most Americans believe that turning industries into financial schemes and sweatshops is the way to the future. Even Bangladesh knows that it is not.

American business problems are entirely self-inflicted, and have zero to do with unions or govt. regs, and everything to do with stupid management decisions, and subsidies to move overseas and take advantage of labor racketeering and transfer pricing schemes.

When they were all whining about 'Japanese dumping', the labor cost differences were only about and average of $600 per car, not enough to swing buyers to buy Japanese; the major cost differences came from such items as advertising, with the Japanese spending an average of $800 per car while GM and Ford were spending over $2,000+, and of course they also sold off their profitable subsidiaries for a quick buck and a good quarterly report, and zero concern for long term planning, among other things, like speeding up production lines and not caring about the consequent decrease in quality that causes. Meanwhile, the Japanese production lines were cranking out high quality using production methods developed by an American named Deming, ironically.

American businessmen and the financial sector merely lobbied for laws that made it a lot more profitable to to loot companies and run them into the ground than actually produce something.

Very interesting. So looks like it is the financial scheming that applies. And Americans still keep on pumping unlimited cash into them.

They are addicted to the products...Mitt Romney made a lot of his money by corporate raiding and after they depleted the retirement funds they would have the US govt. step in to pay off the retirement accounts under the FDIC. Thank goodness that companies that didn't do it are turning away from pensions and going into IRAs because they can't keep up with the increased cost of pension funding..

 

[Moonglow]

87% of lost manufacturing jobs were automated and are never coming back.

100% of Republicans are dupes while only 90% are white.

We don't know the percentage that are racist. Estimates vary from 50 to 90%.

From USMB comments, it's closer to 90%.

As dear old Dad says, only the extremist post on message boards..