Where did anti-semitism originate from?

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    My question to everyone is more of a historical question. What is it that provoked anti-semitism throughout the history, even before the fighting between Israel and Palestine? In other words, when and why did anti-semitism emerge and still continues today? I would like hear historical accounts, not opinions.

    This post is in no way to be construed as anti-semitic. I am just trying to understand why things are the way they are. I grew up in an environment where I wasn’t exposed to preconceived negative ideas about a particular race or ethnicity. Finland doesn’t have minorities per say, nor racial statistics on how many crimes are committed by particular race. Nor is any particular group portrayed in a more negative light than another. So, in my eyes, be it wherever anyone came from, were pretty much equal. The concepts of anti-semitism and racism were foreign to me until I arrived to this country. Both concepts are much spoken here. People are being accused of being anti-semitist. There is affirmative action in place. Race cards are pulled out. Blatant racism takes place everyday, albeit a minority of population engages in it (or I should hope so), and so on. Obviously, racism and anti-semitism are to be found in many, many places in the world so please don’t write back for having portrayed USA in a negative light. That is not the argument here in any case.

    So, back to the original question so that everyone is clear: Where did anti-semitism originate from and why and still continues even today?

    Just trying to understand …
     
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    No problem. Let me see how to go about this.

    Anti-Semitism from Arabs dates all the way back to Abraham. As you may or may not know, Abraham was told by God that he would have a child, and that child would be father to an entire nation (this is all according to scripture). Well, his wife, Sarah, was in her 90s and wasn't capable of producing children, so she offered her servant, Hagar, to Abraham, as was the custom of the day, and they had a child named Ishmael. However, later, Sarah had a child named Isaac. Abraham then practically ignored Hagar and Ishmael, and Sarah practically hated them, and Hagar returned the favor. Eventually, Hagar took Ishmael and left. All Arabs are decended from Ishmael, and all Jews are decended from Isaac.

    The next phase of anti-semitism started in the middle ages. After being scattered by the Romans and their subsequent fall, the Jews, having lived in a prosperous coastal country, were skilled businessmen and were often accused of cheating people, since they were doing better than the Europeans. Many were tortured and killed during the Inquisition.

    Most modern anti-semitism, except that among Arabs, comes from the second source. It's why Hitler killed them, and it's why lots of impoverished Americans hate them.
     
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    My question to everyone is more of a historical question.....

    So, back to the original question so that everyone is clear: Where did anti-semitism originate from and why and still continues even today? Just trying to understand …


    Why and where did anti-semitism begin.

    In fact the answer to this question is really very simple.

    The Jewish people are not different in their appearance or their apparel or due to their hatred of other peoples.

    With Jewdaism came monotheism or the belief in One G-d.

    The Jewish people were placed in possession of the laws by which most of the civilized world lives today. The Ten Commandments were an anathema to the basic human drive to act on one's own behalf.

    Without these rules there would be nothing to prevent man from killing, stealing, committing adultry, coveting, etc.

    These edicts are accepted but nobody really wants to live by these commandments and the fear of the consequence of ignoring them by most of humanity controls our baser instincts.

    Anti-semitism: The Jewish people are not only a perpetual reminder of these rules of life but without these people of the Hebrew G-d, humanity could simply return to their innate instincts to do whatever one wanted or the strong had no restraints from destroying the weak in humanity.

    So if the Jews find themselves continually hated it is because of their continued existence and presence on the face of the earth. They are detested and the primitive desire to wipe them off the face of the earth remains an ever present condition in mankind referred to as ANTI-SEMITISM.
     
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    Anti-Semitism...

    Please note, there are exceptions to everything i wrote bellow. I am generalizing..But my information comes from Jewish friends, and from personal experience.

    There are many universal rules Jews around the world seem to follow:

    1. Jews must help Jews. 2. Jews must eat Kosher food, unless it's free, then it's ok because no money was spent on non-jewish own restaurants/products. 3. Only buy jewish products, from Jewish owed businesses. 4. vote for Jewish politicians.
    5. become a politician. 6. When selling something to a Jew, even first time custommers get items at near cost, and pay less than established non-Jewish custommers. 7. Jewish Product suppliers must sell products to Jews at the lowest price possible. 8. Whenever possible, do business, sign contracts with Jews, even if it costs a little more. 9. Hire Jews only, to keep money circulating. 10. Do not give blood or organs. But you can receive...then Complain that latinos aren't giving enough...
    11. Become journalists...news anchormen, to promote pro-jewish ideology, and for political influence. (media control) 12. If all Jewish money is spent with Jews, and if non-Jews also spend money on Jewish owned products, then Jews will only get richer as a whole. 13. Control Transport Industry, and charge less to transport Jewish products..(the end result is Jewish products are cheaper to buy once they hit the shelves.) 14. Money comes first.


    The above diatribe is a prime example of the desire to demonize the Jewish people. This root22 demonstrates a desire to return to his bestial nature and the Jewish people existing are a threat to his self-egocentricity and the fact that he dispises himself
     
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    LOLOLOL

    bestial nature LOLLOL...ROFL!!! I love you man (in a heterosexual way...) 1. Not trying to demonize the Jewish people, in fact i envy them, their organization is unprecedented in this world, I sometimes wish i belonged with the Jewish Posse.

    That's really interesting. You equate anti-semistim with the old hate filled, "THE JEWS JUST WANT MONEY."

    2. Bestial nature?? LOLOLOLOL, GRRRR!! ARGH!!!! Beware!

    If the description fits, you are the one who wears this base nature in your own words.

    3. Despise Myself?? I love myself, last night i treated myself to beacon fried garlic shrimp and stir fried rice, :p:, took a nap woke up late and went rollerblading down the beach.

    That is obvious. You love yourself, did what you wanted to do, ate what you wanted to eat, slept and went to enjoy yourself at the beach. Sounds like you really care for others alright.

    cheers btw the name is r2200t not root22, it's also my grandpa's name, i'm offended ;)

    By the way who cares?

     
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    What are you talking about? Enough putting words in my mouth, I said Anti-Semitism is caused by jealousy. I think that that's where most Jewish hatred stems from today. And i think it's wrong to judge people by their religion/non-religion, because there are exceptions to the rule...

    Put words in your mouth? Let me paste the words from your mouth.

     
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    Probably guilty of not being in a group of people who only feel obligated to take care of each other. Nice of ya to go into Ethiopia where millions were starving and only helped the Jews! That went over real big.
     
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    Probably guilty of not being in a group of people who only feel obligated to take care of each other. Nice of ya to go into Ethiopia where millions were starving and only helped the Jews! That went over real big.

    How do you know that Israel did not help the starving Namibians or the starving multitudes around the world? Maybe not everything need be published or posted for the greater of all good deeds, according to Judaism, is to do for others without BRAGGING about it. This diminishes those who give and the ones who receives help or aid.

    But that is something you wouldn't know about. Your knowledge is apparently very limited.

    The Ethiopians persecuted the Jewish citizens for centuries. Israel flew thousands of Ethiopian Jews out of Ethiopa and resettled them in Israel.

    Last December I was in Israel and visted with many of the Black Jews who are totally assimilated into the population of Israel. Why is it that the richest nations in the world, i.e., Saudi Arabia or Qatar or any of the other Arab nations can't absorb those Arabs who ran away in 1948, as per the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, instead of keeping the few Princes multi-billionares and their brothers starving, undeducated and only paying the families who throw their children into the bomb fire to kill Israel's.

    I have a special message for you. Turn on your speakers and click below....

    http://dillduck.homestead.com/Thoughts.html
     
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    Here is one theory about where anti-Semitism comes from:

    [ame]http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0275948706/102-0688216-1176912?v=glance[/ame]

    Hint: it comes from JEWS, not the rest of us!
     
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    Hint it comes from the Jew Kevin McDonald????

    So you and Mr. McDonald think that anti-semitism is an evolutionary trait in the Jewish people that causes them to be hated? Notice how this "JEWISH" Irishman carefully uses words like 'clannishness', 'cultural separatism,' and 'economic/cultural domination.'

    Apparently this Irish man comes to his conclusions based on something genetic, observed or simply a subtle infectious method used to place Jewish persons as a 'group to be hated.' And apparently 'hated' for the above listed very good reasons indeed. He says in this summary that Jews have developed methods with a 'flexible array of strategies to diminish this very warranted imagary of evil traits.

    This type of feces is not new or original but simply using the same old tired libels against a very small number of people who have done no harm to anyone and who mostly wish to be assimilated so that they are not hated and murdered in their masses. Jews the eternal scapegoat of those who wish to be supreme over all others.

    Get a life Herr Joyce....

     

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