when you pay for health insurance you pay the the care of others

[Si modo]

Why does TM hate America?

 

[onecut39]

so you hate the poor sooo much you dont want them to have any healthcare?

YOU idiot!
THEY HAVE HEALTH CARE!!!

10 million people categorized with out insurance ARE NOT CITIZENS!!!
14 million said they were uninsured.. BUT WERE COVERED BY MEDICAID!!!
17.5 million people under 34, make $50k or more DO not want to buy nor need to buy
BUT you idiots are counting them as "uninsured" phony baloney numbers!

There are truly 8.5 million people that want insurance!
AND the cause for the high rise in insurance..
CALLED EMTALA passed in 1986!
Any hospital that takes Medicare MUST see uninsured patients!
THAT supposedly "compassionate" solution has CAUSED hospitals to "pad and pass"
on to Medicare sometimes as much as 6,000% overcharges!
Because Medicare OK due to EMTALA!

SOLUTION is force hospitals to send "uncompensated" claims to a for profit insurance company that gets a govt. contract to manage "uninsured" beneficiaries!
Hospitals would pay a tax. Lawyers pay 10% of income as they created the $600 billion Defensive medicine spent EACH year wastefully!
Between hospitals no longer "padding and passing to Medicare/insurance companies..
sending their uninsured claims and paid by that company!
$600 billion defensive medicine reduced by 10%.. $60 billion savings to Medicare/ins.
$600 billion in Medicare cut by 10% another $60 billion in savings!

That simple solution would NOT require destruction of health industry!
Would insure the truly uninsured!
Would lower health insurance premiums because hospitals no longer "padding and passing"

ROFLMAO!!!

Pie in the sky unsupported allegations. You obviously have no idea how hospitals and insurance companies cohabit the world of medical billing.

STUPID REMARK OF THE DAY:

"SOLUTION is force hospitals to send "uncompensated" claims to a for profit insurance company that gets a govt. contract to manage "uninsured" beneficiaries!"

Right, the solution is to use government money pay private companies to manage inflated claims AND GIVE THE INSURANCE COMPANY A PROFIT FOR DOING SO!

What insurance company do you work for?

 

[Truthmatters]

i asked him for a link and he never provided one

 

[Truthmatters]

so which is it cons.

do this the smart way that provided the most care for the most people or.......


let people die in the streets for lack of care?

 

[Claudette]

Of course for profits make a profit!
The Average health insurance company pays out 80% of premiums as claims!
15% as overhead,salaries,computers TAXES!!!
4% net profit!

SO what is wrong with Profits???
$100 billion a YEAR in TAXES Federal/state/local and your local property taxes will increase Obama WANTs to put your local health insurance companies out of business!
GUESS who'll make up the difference????

Life and death issues are NO place for profits in a decent human world.

In your world a company should potentially go as far as putting itself out of business if it means some people will die otherwise.

You have to understand that it just doesn't work that way. As compassionate as you want to be to fellow human beings, companies can not forgo profits to their detriment just because people get sick and die.

This nation lives about as unhealthy as it ever has. We do very little as a whole to try and be more healthy, but you expect companies who's very existence depends on caring for these people, to just throw profits away out of...what...the kindness of their hearts?

A 4% profit margin and you want them to give MORE, otherwise it's just greed.

You live in a fantasy world even more ridiculous than you claim libertarian utopias to be.

Yup and everyone should be overjoyed to support all those without HC coverage.

Thats how Truthsplatters world rocks.

If your not interested in supporting every freeloader in the country why your black hearted. LOL

Glad to say I'm as black hearted as they come.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Free care for everyone is the only way to go

 

[Digital33]

Profit does not provide better healthcare.

that is utter bullshit.

the hypocratic oath mentions nothing about insurance cos.

Insurance companies are just in it for the money - there is very little we can do about that. It's the same everywhere in the world. I'm more interested to know what the drug companies will do with all the profit they make from their new customers.

Drug companies will gain 60,000,000 new customers under the new system that couldn't afford insurance before, that means a lot more profit for them. This SHOULD allow them to spend more money on innovation, right? That means better drugs, better technology, better solutions and overall better healthcare for ALL 313,000,000 Americans.

 

[Avatar4321]

and they also drop people and refuse to insure sick people who need care the most

Would you loan money to a known thief?

which is why our premiums keep going up and up and up.

its why our heatlhcare cost go up and up nad up.

Because many are let to the only care they can get which it the MOST EXPENSIVE care.

emergency rooms


better preventative care makes these people cheaper to care for and PRETENDING we dont have to care for them because you dont like them is utter stupidity

Premiums keep going up because government wont get the heck out of the market and people refuse to take care of themselves

 

[Truthmatters]

yes we can deside that insurance companies are not involved in the health care system.

Its called universal care.

 

[Truthmatters]

Would you loan money to a known thief?

which is why our premiums keep going up and up and up.

its why our heatlhcare cost go up and up nad up.

Because many are let to the only care they can get which it the MOST EXPENSIVE care.

emergency rooms


better preventative care makes these people cheaper to care for and PRETENDING we dont have to care for them because you dont like them is utter stupidity

Premiums keep going up because government wont get the heck out of the market and people refuse to take care of themselves

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

no idiot they keep going up because of the cost of caring for people who have no way of procuring care with money.



you cant squeeze blood out of turnips

 

[Avatar4321]

See you people just cant win this debate because you refuse to accept the real facts

Your imagination does not equate to real facts in any world.

 

[Truthmatters]

tell me which system you could set up that does not provide care for the people who can not afford to pay anything for care?

 

[Truthmatters]

That only includes one kind of plan and that would be people allowed to die in the street without care.

 

[Si modo]

so which is it cons.

do this the smart way that provided the most care for the most people or.......


let people die in the streets for lack of care?

Chicken Little.

 

[Truthmatters]

then tell me a plan that doesnt make people pay for these people yet provides them care?

 

[Truthmatters]

well Im waiting?

 

[Mac1958]

.

Again, the hard right appears perfectly comfortable with:

• Paying far more for their health insurance than they should be
• Knowing that people without coverage (either due to cost or pre-existing conditions) are suffering

If they were not comfortable with the above, they would not be defending the status quo.

.

 

[Si modo]

then tell me a plan that doesnt make people pay for these people yet provides them care?

That has nothing to do with your idiotic hyperbole, moron.

 

[Truthmatters]

so your just going to lie about it?

 

[Truthmatters]

outline your plan that covers people too poor to afford healthcare without having someone else pay the bill.