When will Hostess Bakers and Exploited Walmart workers start their own company?

[Koios]

There's no barriers to entry, go to Legal Zoom and files the papers.

Go for it!

What's stopping them?

Lack of start-up capital. Lack of business acumen. Lack of unique selling proposition.

It's absurd to think someone whose wages are so low they can barely get by will a) have the know-how to raise venture capital, or b) appeal to venture capitalists.

It's absurd to think the exploited can become exploiters. The fact is that the more we commoditize our workers, the less influence average people will have over their lives or this society.

We need wage fairness, by law. Then maybe workers can pay for thier kid's college, and restore some equality of opportunity in our society, which has diminished since 1980 and is quickly approaching the dual societies in South America, which is home to the world's larget slums / favelas, and thus small businesses have few if any customer prospects.

Greed, unmitigated, will ultimately implode under the weight of its own success. So it's up to the society to protect itself from that. Period.

 

[KissMy]

Competition is already causing Walmart to Lose Market Share The problem here is the competition is also abusing us tax payers the same way Walmart is. Wal-Mart is larger than 10% of the US retail economy. Now Wal-Mart drug most of that sector into the welfare state. They also influence our elected officials into supporting them with my tax dollars. Taxpayers will save money if they went out of business.

A 2005 study of government assistance found that just California Wal-Mart employees and their families alone utilize an additional $54 million in non-health related federal assistance, including food stamps, the Earned Income Tax Credit, subsidized school lunches, and subsidized housing. Way more of California Wal-Mart employees and their families were eligible for government assistance than were utilizing it. Then add in the $Billion+ burden that their employees are to the health-care system that they don't pay for.

Wal-Mart is also a burden on state governments. According to a study by the Institute for Labor and Employment at the University of California, Berkeley, in 2003 California taxpayers subsidized $20.5 million worth of medical care for Wal-Mart employees. This does not include local assistance.

Investigators documented 244 Wal-Mart subsidy deals with a total value of $1.008 billion. Taxpayer dollars have helped individual stores and distribution centers with everything from free or cut-price land to general grants. One example: in Sharon Springs, N.Y., a distribution center made a deal with an industrial development agency for the agency to hold the legal title to the facility so the corporation could evade property taxes. They estimates that Wal-Mart will save about $46 million over the life of this one agreement.

Wal-Mart is on the Government dole raising my taxes. Every Wal-Mart store is costing tax payers about a million dollars. They have 9,000 stores in the USA costing us tax payers $9 Billion. Walmart makes $16 Billion in profits a year & cry about paying taxes. Walmart can pay the $9 billion they are costing us tax payers without having to raise any prices in their stores. It's time they paid their own way just like I have to.

NOTE THE DATES OF THE STUDIES. 2003-2005 It was during an all Republican Administration, House & Senate. Just imagine how much it has grown in the past 9 years. Walmart is no longer the biggest welfare moochers. Many many more have joined their ranks. So enjoy paying taxes so the foreigners & the rich can take more of your wealth! Enjoy subsidizing Chinese importers with your tax dollars. I thought government's job was to protect it's citizens from foreigners. Subversive assholes in this country complain about subsidizing job creating exporters but praise the Walmart model of subsidizing foreign importers to put our citizens out of business.

 

[del]

Contacts? The Union does not have contacts?

The Union pension Funds can provide the capital

This is stupid beyond belief. You obviously have not been involved in major business startups.

Tell me where I went wrong.

at birth, apparently

 

[TNHarley]

Just a heard a story about a man that delivered for them for 30 years. No pension, no real warning(letter in an envelope), no severance package.. Nothing

 

[CrusaderFrank]

There's no barriers to entry, go to Legal Zoom and files the papers.

Go for it!

What's stopping them?

Lack of start-up capital. Lack of business acumen. Lack of unique selling proposition.

It's absurd to think someone whose wages are so low they can barely get by will a) have the know-how to raise venture capital, or b) appeal to venture capitalists.

It's absurd to think the exploited can become exploiters. The fact is that the more we commoditize our workers, the less influence average people will have over their lives or this society.

We need wage fairness, by law. Then maybe workers can pay for thier kid's college, and restore some equality of opportunity in our society, which has diminished since 1980 and is quickly approaching the dual societies in South America, which is home to the world's larget slums / favelas, and thus small businesses have few if any customer prospects.

Greed, unmitigated, will ultimately implode under the weight of its own success. So it's up to the society to protect itself from that. Period.

We have to subsidize the clueless?

 

[Stephanie]

Just a heard a story about a man that delivered for them for 30 years. No pension, no real warning(letter in an envelope), no severance package.. Nothing

he should thank the Union

 

[Koios]

There's no barriers to entry, go to Legal Zoom and files the papers.

Go for it!

What's stopping them?

Lack of start-up capital. Lack of business acumen. Lack of unique selling proposition.

It's absurd to think someone whose wages are so low they can barely get by will a) have the know-how to raise venture capital, or b) appeal to venture capitalists.

It's absurd to think the exploited can become exploiters. The fact is that the more we commoditize our workers, the less influence average people will have over their lives or this society.

We need wage fairness, by law. Then maybe workers can pay for thier kid's college, and restore some equality of opportunity in our society, which has diminished since 1980 and is quickly approaching the dual societies in South America, which is home to the world's larget slums / favelas, and thus small businesses have few if any customer prospects.

Greed, unmitigated, will ultimately implode under the weight of its own success. So it's up to the society to protect itself from that. Period.

We have to subsidize the clueless?

No. Merely empower them to be less clueless, and have children with more equality of opportunity.

Bear in mind, children of the top 1% populate over 70% of our Ivy League colleges, and have a better than 60% chance of being in the top 1% of earners, themselves. That's merely one example of the rank inequality (of opportunity!) in our society. And when we try to compete globally, drawing our "best and brightest" from merely the children of the top few percent in our society, how many Steve Jobs will the future hold, for us, compared to countries like Germany, France, UK, Norway, Sweden, Switzerland, etc, where the chances for a super bright person emerging, is being drawn from 70, 80 or more percent of thier citizens.

We're on the path of greed, and will implode if we do not reverse course and once again focus on making Americans better, and not America better for a few.

 

[TNHarley]

Just a heard a story about a man that delivered for them for 30 years. No pension, no real warning(letter in an envelope), no severance package.. Nothing

he should thank the Union

They are re-opening the talks. Lets hope they can work something out. I hate 18,000+ people lost their jobs. Goddamn Union

 

[Koios]

Just a heard a story about a man that delivered for them for 30 years. No pension, no real warning(letter in an envelope), no severance package.. Nothing

he should thank the Union

They are re-opening the talks. Lets hope they can work something out. I hate 18,000+ people lost their jobs. Goddamn Union

Silly Righty, greed is for all the kids in the room. Management and Worker Reps are free to leverage the hell whatever advantage they have. And rest assured, the VCs do not want -- and have not calculated the cost of -- hiring and training 18,000 new workers. They want the skills the current staffing have, only cheaper. Godbless them; wouldn't we all.

So indeed, thank heaven for unions. They can fight for decent wage for a day's work, since as yet, I've yet to hear management suggest the same pay for 20 percent fewer hours of work. Why workers should accept that in reverse, is beyond me.

And the fight is bigger than 18,000 jobs, since it affects prevailing wages, and reaches beyond the plant. Take a good union company, and rest assured, the best and brightest at the shit-pay companies around them will snag every opening, pronto. And local business owners know that their star employee will jump the second they can get on with the good union job, and that raises wages all across town.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Just a heard a story about a man that delivered for them for 30 years. No pension, no real warning(letter in an envelope), no severance package.. Nothing

he should thank the Union

They are re-opening the talks. Lets hope they can work something out. I hate 18,000+ people lost their jobs. Goddamn Union

oh come on!!! Without the union one guy would have to handle Twinkess and Cupcakes off the same truck!!

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

So indeed, thank heaven for unions. They can fight for decent wage for a day's work,the good union job,

too stupid but perfectly liberal. Any wage increase union thugs get with liberal violence just raises prices that other workers not in unions must pay through higer prices. Union thugs rip of those who don't have the political connections they have!!

It should be made illegal. Let them work for what they are worth just like everyone else!

Imagine the union concept spreading so that every one thinks in terms of getting the wages and prices they want with violence rather than based on what they are worth in the market place . Its a ticket back to the stone age only liberals lack the IQ to understand it.

 

[Koios]

So indeed, thank heaven for unions. They can fight for decent wage for a day's work,the good union job,

too stupid but perfectly liberal. Any wage increase union thugs get with liberal violence just raises prices that other workers not in unions must pay through higer prices. Union thugs rip of those who don't have the political connections they have!!

It should be made illegal. Let them work for what they are worth just like everyone else!

Imagine the union concept spreading so that every one thinks in terms of getting the wages and prices they want with violence rather than based on what they are worth in the market place . Its a ticket back to the stone age only liberals lack the IQ to understand it.

So Hostess products were a bit spendy for you? Them cupcakes are pretty pricey by golly, but then with two to a package, you could spread them across two paychecks.

Good plan?

 

[Politico]

There's no barriers to entry, go to Legal Zoom and files the papers.

Go for it!

What's stopping them?

That would require effort and work.

 

[westwall]

There's no barriers to entry, go to Legal Zoom and files the papers.

Go for it!

What's stopping them?

Ummmmm, iniative, money(not essential but it helps), talent, skill, ambition, responsibility, desire, inventiveness, and a dash of leadership....but that's just a guess.

 

[Freemason9]

Contacts? The Union does not have contacts?

The Union pension Funds can provide the capital

This is stupid beyond belief. You obviously have not been involved in major business startups.

Tell me where I went wrong.

Mainly, you can't use pension funds to finance business acquisitions.

(FYI, many business are employee-owned, and they do very well without outside investors leeching out the profits.)

 

[Freemason9]

so indeed, thank heaven for unions. They can fight for decent wage for a day's work,the good union job,

too stupid but perfectly liberal. Any wage increase union thugs get with liberal violence just raises prices that other workers not in unions must pay through higer prices. Union thugs rip of those who don't have the political connections they have!!

It should be made illegal. Let them work for what they are worth just like everyone else!

Imagine the union concept spreading so that every one thinks in terms of getting the wages and prices they want with violence rather than based on what they are worth in the market place . Its a ticket back to the stone age only liberals lack the iq to understand it.

fascism

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

so indeed, thank heaven for unions. They can fight for decent wage for a day's work,the good union job,

too stupid but perfectly liberal. Any wage increase union thugs get with liberal violence just raises prices that other workers not in unions must pay through higer prices. Union thugs rip of those who don't have the political connections they have!!

It should be made illegal. Let them work for what they are worth just like everyone else!

Imagine the union concept spreading so that every one thinks in terms of getting the wages and prices they want with violence rather than based on what they are worth in the market place . Its a ticket back to the stone age only liberals lack the iq to understand it.

fascism

yes, under capitalism other people determine what you are to be paid, under liberalism you determine what you are paid despite your obvious bias.

Guess which leads to 1000% more economic progress!!!!

 

[KissMy]

yes, under capitalism other people determine what you are to be paid, under liberalism you determine what you are paid despite your obvious bias.

Guess which leads to 1000% more economic progress!!!!

Under capitalism Walmart would not be taxed less than other companies. Walmart would not be subsidized by taxpayers & have their workers subsidized by taxpayers.

You retards turn a blind eye to large corporate bailouts & their subsidies from little taxpayers while yelling at the small business & poor why can't you compete?

 

[Koios]

too stupid but perfectly liberal. Any wage increase union thugs get with liberal violence just raises prices that other workers not in unions must pay through higer prices. Union thugs rip of those who don't have the political connections they have!!

It should be made illegal. Let them work for what they are worth just like everyone else!

Imagine the union concept spreading so that every one thinks in terms of getting the wages and prices they want with violence rather than based on what they are worth in the market place . Its a ticket back to the stone age only liberals lack the iq to understand it.

fascism

yes, under capitalism other people determine what you are to be paid, under liberalism you determine what you are paid despite your obvious bias.

Guess which leads to 1000% more economic progress!!!!

The latter. Minimum wages and workers organizing ushered in unprecedented growth in the economy and made America the world's largest and most envied economy.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

hey exploited workers, if you feel the need to "Control the means of production" in the USA, the first thing you should do is write a business plan.

The American Neo-Marxists are lying to you, striking is for losers and stupid people