when kerry is elected

What're you smoking?

WHEN Kerry is elected?

When pigs fly.
 
manu1959 said:
someone tell me what he will do?....cuz i can't figure it out
Create more jobs, stop outsourcing
Reduce healthcare
more choices for healthcare
Will not privitize social security
Get of out of the economy downfall
Choices for women
rights for women and minorities
get our troops back
Help college age students with loans, and other programs
get the 1.6 miilion jobs back, which bush lost

He going to do more then bush ever did. What has bush done for this country, that is the really question.
 
lolita715 said:
Create more jobs, stop outsourcing
Reduce healthcare
more choices for healthcare
Will not privitize social security
Get of out of the economy downfall
Choices for women
rights for women and minorities
get our troops back
Help college age students with loans, and other programs
get the 1.6 miilion jobs back, which bush lost

He going to do more then bush ever did. What has bush done for this country, that is the really question.

How do you walk upright with that much lead weighing your head down?
 
Shattered said:
How do you walk upright with that much lead weighing your head down?
You probably cant even tell me what bush has done for this country. Every Republican I talk to cant even tell me one thing except "he got us though 9-11" Even though any president would have. One Republican said bush has not done anything yet, but it's what he is going to do!! He has already has four years
 
lolita715 said:
Create more jobs, stop outsourcing
Reduce healthcare
more choices for healthcare
Will not privitize social security
Get of out of the economy downfall
Choices for women
rights for women and minorities
get our troops back
Help college age students with loans, and other programs
get the 1.6 miilion jobs back, which bush lost

He going to do more then bush ever did. What has bush done for this country, that is the really question.

How?
 
lolita715 said:
Create more jobs, stop outsourcing
Reduce healthcare
more choices for healthcare
Will not privitize social security
Get of out of the economy downfall
Choices for women
rights for women and minorities
get our troops back
Help college age students with loans, and other programs
get the 1.6 miilion jobs back, which bush lost

He going to do more then bush ever did. What has bush done for this country, that is the really question.

i will conceed that bush has done nothing and kerry will do all that you say ...now...one at a time now ok....i want to be educated...i can not find anoyne where i live to explain this to me

explain how kerry will create more jobs?
explain how he will stop outsourcing?
what additional choice of helath care will there be?
what is wrong with the economy?
what additional choices will he provide women?
what addition rights will he grant women and minoities?
when will the troops be comming home?
what additional college loan progams will he implement?
where will the 1.6 million jobs come from?
 
lolita715 said:
You probably cant even tell me what bush has done for this country. Every Republican I talk to cant even tell me one thing except "he got us though 9-11" Even though any president would have. One Republican said bush has not done anything yet, but it's what he is going to do!! He has already has four years

i conceed that bush has doen nothing the media has made that clear and obviously so has mr kerry.

i am interested in mr what kerry will do and how
 
manu1959 said:
i conceed that bush has doen nothing the media has made that clear and obviously so has mr kerry.

i am interested in mr what kerry will do and how
I have already said what he will do, why cant a single republican tell me what bush has done.
 
lolita715 said:
You probably cant even tell me what bush has done for this country. Every Republican I talk to cant even tell me one thing except "he got us though 9-11" Even though any president would have. One Republican said bush has not done anything yet, but it's what he is going to do!! He has already has four years

Got us through a recession that started in November of 2000 (Yes before he took office) that was amplified by 9/11. He lowered taxes to stimulate close to 2 million jobs this year alone. Which calculates out to a net gain in jobs. He has lead a vast Global effort to rid the world of organized terrorism. Not just Afghanistan and IRaq, he has helped stop terrorism all over the world.

He has been a leader most of all. Plus he's a genuine person. Despite all the mud slung his way, he has never given the same vitriole that the Democrats have thrown at him back to them. He has remained agonizingly cordial to all democrats (including praising Bill Clinton during his potrait unveiling).

I think thats what drives libs the most crazy. The keep throwing all this mud expecting Bush to go "na na na na nanner" right back but he remains grown up and sticks to the issues.
 
manu1959 said:
i conceed that bush has doen nothing the media has made that clear and obviously so has mr kerry.

i am interested in mr what kerry will do and how
Lets see...
John Kerry will propose a bill to increase minimum wage from 5.15-7.00
Kerry will offer college students up to $4000 over 4 years to college students.
he was also give 10 billion to colleges
he opposes restictions on abortions, giving females fights
proposes bill to let women get the morning after pill without perscription
paycheck fairness act
will end tax credits to jobs outsourcing
 
insein said:
Got us through a recession that started in November of 2000 (Yes before he took office) that was amplified by 9/11. He lowered taxes to stimulate close to 2 million jobs this year alone. Which calculates out to a net gain in jobs. He has lead a vast Global effort to rid the world of organized terrorism. Not just Afghanistan and IRaq, he has helped stop terrorism all over the world.

He has been a leader most of all. Plus he's a genuine person. Despite all the mud slung his way, he has never given the same vitriole that the Democrats have thrown at him back to them. He has remained agonizingly cordial to all democrats (including praising Bill Clinton during his potrait unveiling).

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I think thats what drives libs the most crazy. The keep throwing all this mud expecting Bush to go "na na na na nanner" right back but he remains grown up and sticks to the issues.
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Maybe you should read this??
http://www.nationalreview.com/nrof_comment/conda200403050902.asp
 
lolita715 said:
Lets see...
John Kerry will propose a bill to increase minimum wage from 5.15-7.00
So then those small businesses who employ people for 7 or less will have to drop a few dozen employees because they cant afford to pay higher wages.

Kerry will offer college students up to $4000 over 4 years to college students.

Whose going to pay for it?

he was also give 10 billion to colleges

Whose going to pay for it

he opposes restictions on abortions, giving females fights

A women's right to choose is never going to be overturned. what people want is an END to the killing of a 7 to 9 month old fetus. Even the most liberal of people will usually agree that at that point it is a human being. But i guess that doesnt stop people like Kerry from voting to kill it anyway despite his "firm" belief that a child begins at conception.

proposes bill to let women get the morning after pill without perscription

The law is in question because it allows underage mothers to get a morning after pill or an abortion without parental consent. Kerry will never have it passed because Republicans control congress.

paycheck fairness act

guh?

will end taz credits to jobs outsourcing

Another myth. Employers outsource regardless of tax credits. Tax credits are given to just as many companies that employ domestic employees. Outsourcing has been going on since the begining of time. Hell thats what built this country. Europe outsourced most of its labor to America because it was able to be done cheaper. Your not going to stop outsourcing by trying to restrict businesses financially. That only encourages more outsourcing.
 
insein said:
So then those small businesses who employ people for 7 or less will have to drop a few dozen employees because they cant afford to pay higher wages.



Whose going to pay for it?



Whose going to pay for it



A women's right to choose is never going to be overturned. what people want is an END to the killing of a 7 to 9 month old fetus. Even the most liberal of people will usually agree that at that point it is a human being. But i guess that doesnt stop people like Kerry from voting to kill it anyway despite his "firm" belief that a child begins at conception.



The law is in question because it allows underage mothers to get a morning after pill or an abortion without parental consent. Kerry will never have it passed because Republicans control congress.



guh?



Another myth. Employers outsource regardless of tax credits. Tax credits are given to just as many companies that employ domestic employees. Outsourcing has been going on since the begining of time. Hell thats what built this country. Europe outsourced most of its labor to America because it was able to be done cheaper. Your not going to stop outsourcing by trying to restrict businesses financially. That only encourages more outsourcing.

Well where do you get your facts???? Plus Kerry only supports partial birth abortions under extreme circimstances.

And we are still in a recession
 
Lets see...
John Kerry will propose a bill to increase minimum wage from 5.15-7.00
Kerry will offer college students up to $4000 over 4 years to college students.
he was also give 10 billion to colleges
he opposes restictions on abortions, giving females fights
proposes bill to let women get the morning after pill without perscription
paycheck fairness act
will end tax credits to jobs outsourcing

Why does minimum wage need to be $7.00? You want more money, work your way up. :)

Whose money is Kerry "giving" to these college students?

Females DO have rights. They have the right to keep their damn legs closed if they don't want a child.

The "morning after" is a little too damn late to be worrying about potential mistakes. Try taking responsibility for your actions.

Bush has already cut more taxes (in a logical manner) than Kerry *thinks* he can..

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lolita715 said:


Umm yea did you?

According to the Council of Economic Advisers, the median date of these five data series is October 2000 — at least three months before George W. Bush took office. We also know that the stock market started to decline in March of 2000, business investment began to fall in the third quarter of 2000, and initial jobless claims began to rise at the end of 2000 — more evidence that the U.S. economy in late 2000 was in fact "on the front end of a recession," as Vice President-elect Dick Cheney observed on Meet the Press on December 3, 2000.

A key area in which presidents can have an impact on the economy is tax policy. President Clinton raised tax rates right after taking office in 1993, and presided over a massive "stealth tax hike" which ultimately hurt the economy. Because income taxes were not indexed, the increase in real incomes during the 1990s pushed people into higher and higher tax brackets. According to Brian Wesbury of GKST Economics in Chicago, from 1993 to 2000, the number of people who paid taxes in one of the top three income-tax brackets almost doubled from 3.4 million to 6.4 million filers. Further, total income taxes paid by these filers increased from $84.6 billion in 1993 to $245.8 billion, an increase of 190.5 percent. President Clinton's policies increased the federal tax burden as a share of our national economy from 17.5 percent in 1992 to 20.9 percent in 2000.

President Bush, however, took the opposite approach of his predecessor. Upon taking office, George W. Bush took immediate action to lift the tax burden and strengthen the economy. The first Bush tax cut put $40 billion immediately back into the economy in mid-2001 and helped cushion the economic fallout from the 9/11 terrorist attacks. In March 2002, the president signed a second tax cut that allowed partial expensing, which began the recovery in business-investment spending. In May 2003, Bush signed the third tax cut of his administration, boosting after-tax economic incentives by slashing tax rates on income, capital gains, and dividends.
 
Okay, since you took the time to post some specifics, let's address them.

lolita715 said:
Create more jobs, stop outsourcing
On what do you base that assertion? Perhaps on the fact that kerry has been instrumental in convincing the Heinz Corp to keep their jobs here? The fact is that no government can stop outsourcing. They can only stop encouraging it - like Clinton did. You may recall that NAFTA passed under the Clinton administration.

lolita715 said:
Reduce healthcare
more choices for healthcare

I assume that your first line here was intended to read "Reduce healthcare costs". But you may have inadvertently hit on the end result when government interferes too heavily in any market - and that includes medicine. The costs will not go down, they will go up and the availability of healthcare will be reduced. Simply look at any socialist healthcare system.

How will kerry produce more choices for healthcare?

Seems to me that the only plank is this platform is the creation of another government handout program for which the taxpayers will take a hundred billion dollar hosing.

lolita715 said:
Will not privitize social security

Don't look now, Lolita, but privatization is likely the only way that social security will be available for you when you reach eligibility age. The system is near collapse. The only other way to save social security is to cut down on either the amount of benefits or the number of beneficiaries. Fat chance that any Democrat will cut down a "gimme" program.

lolita715 said:
Get of out of the economy downfall

One thing about you liberals - you are masters of selective retention. The economy was in recession during the last six months of the Clinton administration. It was the Democrat's incompetence, the dot com bust which were the primary engines for the economic downturn and the attacks on 9-11 finished it off. George Bush and the Republicans have been working hard to turn things around and it is working. The job loss statistic you quoted is totally bogus. The fact is that the last unemployment figures showed a lower unemployment rate than during the Clinton years. Another thing liberals lack is patience. The economy does not turn on a dime. It takes years for many actions to take full effect. Clinton enjoyed the efforts of Ronald Reagan. The boom we enjoyed during the Clinton years were engineered by Reagan and Bush Sr. Clinton had nothing to do with it.


lolita715 said:
Choices for women
rights for women and minorities

And what rights do women and minorities currently lack? Oh yes, there's the abortion issue. Well I doubt that there would be any total ban on abortion in a second Bush administration.

lolita715 said:
get our troops back

George Bush will also get our troops back. The difference is that he will bring them back AFTER the job is done. He will not cut and run as kerry has indicated he will. As a retired army type myself I can tell you that the most egregious insult to a fighting man is to see some sleazy politician cave in and bring the troops home before the mission has been accomplished - which means that those who did not return home alive will have died for nothing.

lolita715 said:
Help college age students with loans, and other programs

Seems to me there are plenty of those available already. Here's a conservative concept - Want to go to college? Go to work and help pay your own way through. It is not the responsibility of the government to nursemaid you throughout your entire life.

lolita715 said:
get the 1.6 miilion jobs back, which bush lost

Once again, a baloney statistic. Bush did not lose those jobs. Bush brought jobs back. I don't know if you're old enough to remember the Jimmy Carter economy - but you may want to read up on that. It is a textbook case of the effects of excessive governmental interference in the free market. My guess is that if you like Jimmy Carter - you'll love john kerry.

lolita715 said:
He going to do more then bush ever did. What has bush done for this country, that is the really question.

George Bush has defeated the Taliban and freed Afghanistan. The Afghanis recently voted in their first democratic election.

George Bush defeated Saddam and we are in the process of establishing the opportunity for democracy in that country. If kerry is elected, all that will have been for naught.

George Bush has turned the Clinton economy back onto a sound footing. This is happening despite record high oil prices which should have sent inflation through the roof.

George Bush has prevented another terrorist attack on American soil.

I could go on, but I doubt there's any point to it.

One thing that strikes me about your post is the change in attitude of Democrats over the last thirty years. Democrats like you see the government as being responsible for giving them the American dream. Democrats think that the rich are evil and should be punished for making too much money. Democrats think that if you are successful, you have somehow done that on the backs of the poor. Democrats look to government for assistance from the day they are born until the day they die.

Tell me this - whatever happened to the Democrats who were urged by President Kennedy "Ask not what your country can do for you. Ask what you can do for your country"?

Where are those Democrats? Surely if any still exist, john kerry is not one of them.
 
lolita715 said:
I have already said what he will do, why cant a single republican tell me what bush has done.

Cut Taxes, given me more money. No I am most certainly not rich.
Freed 2 countries from repressive dictatorships
Got us through the worst terrorist attack in our country's history.
Passed a ban on partial-birth abortion.
Signed the Patriot Act
Got us out of the Clinton-Gore recession

Want me to go on?
 
insein said:
Umm yea did you?
According the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER), the unofficial arbiter of business cycles, the recession began in March 2001 and ended in November 2001.

I believe he was "running this country" when this recession began.
 

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