When is Lying and Deception Acceptable?

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    When is lying and deception acceptable?
    Taqiyya or Treat?



    Taqiyya or Treat?
    Michael Oberndorf, RPA
    October 21, 2012


    When is lying and deception acceptable? To civilized westerners, i.e., non-Muslims, never, although it’s overlooked when done to spare someone from being unnecessarily hurt by the truth, as in white lies. However, Islam has taqiyya, in which lying and deception is intentionally done to deceive non-believers in order to defeat them. It’s something we are seeing every day, abroad and at home.

    Libya and the so-called “Arab Spring” are both perfect examples of taqiyya successfully used to deceive and defeat the infidels – us. Obama used our military to oust Libya’s big-mouthed, but mostly toothless, dictator, Muammar Gaddafi, claiming his intervention would allow democratic moderates to assert themselves. In reality, this created a vacuum into which al-Queda, already entrenched in the “rebel” establishment, inserted itself and expanded rapidly and exponentially. The culmination was the well-planned attack on our consulate in Benghazi, facilitated by taqiyya-practicing Libyan security guards, that resulted in the murders of three American embassy personnel, and the rape and murder of our ambassador. Obama claims that he was out of the loop.

    In Egypt, a similar scenario played out, except it was the Muslim Brotherhood – the parent organization of al-Queda – that was allowed by Obama to come to power. Here, too, Obama told us that the radical jihadists were really peaceful moderates, and that they really would never try to take power by winning the presidential election, which is exactly what they went on to do. This has led to anti-American riots, featuring attacks on our embassy, flag burning, and demands for the universal imposition of harsh, 7th century Shariah law. It has also spawned attacks on women who were beaten and stripped, including their own protesters, and two female reporters, one of whom was sexually assaulted. Talk about your War on Women.

    In Syria, too, Obama is supplying the anti-Assad forces with weapons, even though they are allied, if not dominated by al-Queda. And in Afghanistan, our supposed Commander-in-Chief has imposed so-called rules of engagement that have driven American deaths beyond the 2,000 mark. For the “winner” of a Nobel Peace Prize, Obama seems to be up to his big, flapping ears in military intervention in other people’s countries. He has also stopped all training for our forces that actually looks at what radical Islam is, and thus they have been especially vulnerable to taqiyya that has allowed jihadists to pose as government loyalists, and then commit mass murder on our unsuspecting troops.

    And now we get to this election’s traditional “October Surprise” – read: outrageous dirty trick given a free ride by the Fifth Column media. This time, Obama is reported to have cut a deal with the radical, jihadists and militant Islamist rulers of Iran, those demanders of the immediate destruction of Israel and all Jews and the Great Satan – America - to drop our most effective sanctions, if they say they will halt the part of their nuke program that could be used to build the bombs they so clearly intend to build. And it appears that is what the Imams have agreed to do. Taqiyya.

    That the Obama administration would enter into such an obviously bogus deal is not simply an insult to the American voter, whom they seem to believe is so stupid as to think that this is a brilliant foreign policy coup, but another slap and spit in the face of the citizens of Iran. The sanctions they are going to remove have brought Iran to the verge of economic collapse, with the currency nearing Weimar Republic worthlessness. The majority of Persians – for that’s how the non-Islamist majority see themselves – are ready to revolt against the government whose radical jihadism and anti-Western policies have brought the country to its present degenerate state. Again, as with the uprising after the fraudulent 2009-2010 election, Obama is pulling the rug out from under the secularists, allowing freedom to be crushed and radical Islamists to cling to power. And Obama and the Fifth Column media want us to believe this is a good thing.

    Loyal Americans have burned into their memories Obama’s scrawny backside as he bowed low to the Ruler of Mecca, the King of Saudi Arabia.
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    When is lying and deception acceptable?


    When you are a Republican.
     
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    When you're a partisan ideologue.

    In fact, I think it's required.

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    Hmm, then why has Obama and the Marxist Left been spreading LIES and DISINFORMATION about the deaths of Christopher Stevens Ambassador to Libya and his three associates. Not to mention the lies about Romney killing a woman. But that's the Democratic way right? In any case the original post showed how Muslims believe they can use lies to achieve their ends. Just as Barry Oblamer and his minions have been doing.
     
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    When is Lying and Deception Acceptable?


    For the newGOPers it's whenever they open up their stinking pie holes.
     
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    Honey does my ass look too big in this dress?

    That's the only time a lie is allowed.

    Now back to politics. I understand that a lot of times administrations cannot be forthcoming when others can be endangered.

    But to have allowed Ambassador Stevens to be guarded by 2 Libyan militias is beyond the pale here. And to lie about this monumental screw up is criminal.

    This is where the Obama administration not only put their foot in their mouth, they put both feet in and tried to change their socks at the same time.
     
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    When ever you are defending Barrack Obama.
     
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