when is a cop allowed to punch a suspect? (I am on the cops side this time)

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    I usually am against over forceful cops, but in this case I think the bitch got what she deserved, video at link:

    Seattle Police Officer Caught on Tape Punching Woman During Jaywalking Stop - Seattle News - The Daily Weekly

    My question is though, what are the guidelines to police officers in cases like this? From what I see he had two people fighting against him while a rowdy crowd around him cheered them on. They didn't cooperate at all and they forcefully fought back, what he following guidelines when he hit her or should he try something else?
     
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    He had more patience than me, I would have pepper sprayed her as soon as she put a hand on me.

    To answer your question, the smart move would have been to wait for backup, but LEO do have the right to defend themselves. Like I said personally I would have peppers sprayed both of them as soon as things got physical.

    I would have that ****** in the background to who was clearly trying to incite the crowd.
     
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    The officer's tactics were clearly flawed. Police are only authorized to use necessary force to restrain. Of course each situation is weighed separately. This needs some more time with the hand to hand instructor.
     
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    No he doesn't , he just needs to be told next time hit em with the pepper spray.
     
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    First of all, us detectives hate the term "cop" as that is derogatory to all law enforcement.
    POST (Police Officers Standards) training does not have a punch to the face of anyone as the first line of defense in a resisting arrest case unless there is a weapon. At the least the officer is in violation of that.
    Since this involved a jay walking case instead of a real crime a 30 day suspension without pay would be a very fair warning to the police officer. Give him another chance.
     
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    Pepper spray is a pain in the ass. If the wind is blowing at all, then you get as much on you as you do the assailant. This guy lost his cool and forgot his training.
     
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    Oh, I'm well acquainted with pepper spray, but I think he could have probably made sure only she was affected.
     
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    Simple ... Obey The Law !!!! At what point are you allowed to come up behind an officer and put your hands on him. What bull shit and she will probably sue and become nigga rich.

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9w9AfptGGQ&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Seattle Police Confrontation - komonews.com[/ame]
     
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    so what was he legally allowed to do then to get the person to stop attacking him?
     
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    Only when defending himself or attempting to subdue an uncooperative suspect.

    in this case I would say the person who got hit is lucky. You never come up behind an armed man in a stressful situation and put your hands on him. Not smart at all.
     
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