When hurting Obama is more important then jobs

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Obama has done a good job, but he can't do it all without some patriotic help from the opposition.
 
The volt was an experiment. For the most part it failed.

How in the world did you reach that conclusion?

Buying a Volt does not pay for the car, without a government subsidy and it has a tendency to catch fire.
It has no "tendency" to catch fire, as the NHSA has pointed out.

When you have to lie to make your point, you might want to reconsider your point.

Katzndogz is a troll who just makes shit up.
 
Bottom line GM owes the American Tax Payer millions upon millions of dollars, period. Now as for GM and the people that were stuck with their stock / bonds, and unsecured vendors, they were screwed royal so that the unions could be kept whole. One can only hope GM survives long enough for tax payers to be repaid and those stuck with worthless paper can recover something before it collapses again.
No one has been screwed. Everyone is making money on this deal.
 
The Volt has demonstrated an inclination to spontaneously combust. That's reality. Although there might be a study that says bursting into flames isn't really bursting into flames. The Volt is not affordable enough to be available to the general public without a per vehicle massive government subsidy.

That makes it a failure. An expensive failure.


That's a lie. You're a liar.
 
Commentators do not make or break the Volt it's main problem is the price and the fact they have done a poor job of promoting it and selling it to the public I believe this how free enterprise works you come up with something that works is affordable and sell the people on it and you will have a winner that no amount of commentators can hold back.
 
I agree that it's not affordable when comparing it to a Prius. Or maybe a Ford Escape Hybrid. But that's the wrong comparison. It's a much more refined auto, and compares with the Acura TL and the Volvo S60.

They would have done better to also come out with a small compact electric, to get more people in them, get the confidence in the product higher, which would have sold more Volts.

If I could I would buy one. My Volvo S70 T5 uses way too much gas (20mpg). My Volvo 240 Wagon uses slightly less (22mpg), and my Honda CRV uses slightly less than that (24mpg). Too much!
 
The Volt got its last favorable crash test rating in June of 2011. By November the Volt started fires had already burned down several homes.
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Bullshit.

The fires in Volts were after controlled test crashes, and happened at a rate no higher than standard ICE cars.

Chevrolet Volt fires: Safety probe ends; regulators OK GM's fix - Los Angeles Times

Yeah, sure.

Chevy Volt Again Suspected in House Fire | National Legal and Policy Center
PJ Lifestyle » Investigation Continues in Home Fire That Burned Siemens Charger, Chevy Volt

No Danger that's why there was a senate investigation into the danger.

The white house knew all along that the Volt was dangerous and hid the information because it is more interested in its agenda than anyone killed in a Volt fire.
White House: Yeah, We Knew About Chevy Volt’s Catching On Fire, But Didn’t Try And Hide The News… | Weasel Zippers

Jesus Christ, can't cons do some research instead of listening to propaganda from far right wing news sources? Actually, you can't call them news sources, because all they do is report outright lies. The fire you are referring to was not due to the Volt or its charging system, and this comes directly from the findings of the fire department, not some lame fucking right wing blog. But despite the real facts, I'm sure you will continue to believe whatever it is you want to believe. That is what happens when you come down with a bad case of dipshititis.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news...e-fire-started-away-from-chevy-volt-exclusive
 
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Bottom line GM owes the American Tax Payer millions upon millions of dollars, period. Now as for GM and the people that were stuck with their stock / bonds, and unsecured vendors, they were screwed royal so that the unions could be kept whole. One can only hope GM survives long enough for tax payers to be repaid and those stuck with worthless paper can recover something before it collapses again.
No one has been screwed. Everyone is making money on this deal.

He's not wrong. Taxpayers are out 25 billion in dollars we won't get back:
Treasury: U.S. to lose $25 billion on auto bailout | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

Barack Obama's got alot of gall, going around the country touting GM as some kind of success when it went bankrupt anyway, his "surgical" bankruptsy screwed over investors, dealerships were arbitrarily shut down, and the UAW walked away with big chunks of both GM and Chrysler, not to mention jobs going overseas.
And now, they're already in trouble again:
Is GM already on track to go bankrupt, again? « Hot Air
 
Bottom line GM owes the American Tax Payer millions upon millions of dollars, period. Now as for GM and the people that were stuck with their stock / bonds, and unsecured vendors, they were screwed royal so that the unions could be kept whole. One can only hope GM survives long enough for tax payers to be repaid and those stuck with worthless paper can recover something before it collapses again.
No one has been screwed. Everyone is making money on this deal.

He's not wrong. Taxpayers are out 25 billion in dollars we won't get back:
Treasury: U.S. to lose $25 billion on auto bailout | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

Barack Obama's got alot of gall, going around the country touting GM as some kind of success when it went bankrupt anyway, his "surgical" bankruptsy screwed over investors, dealerships were arbitrarily shut down, and the UAW walked away with big chunks of both GM and Chrysler, not to mention jobs going overseas.
And now, they're already in trouble again:
Is GM already on track to go bankrupt, again? « Hot Air
From that link:



The steep decline in GM's stock price has indefinitely delayed the Treasury's sale of its remaining 26 percent stake in GM. No sale will take place before the November election.


Treasury spokesman Matt Anderson said the costs were still far less than some predicted.


"The auto industry rescue helped save more than one million jobs throughout our nation's industrial heartland and is expected to cost far less than many had feared during the height of the crisis," Anderson said.


The Obama administration initially estimated it would lose $44 billion on the bailout but reduced the forecast to $30 billion in December 2009.


But the recent estimates are not as optimistic as last year.


The Treasury Department said in a May 2011 report that its estimate of auto bailout losses was $13.9 billion. The Congressional Budget Office also estimates a $14 billion loss. The CBO has written off $8 billion of the government's auto bailout as an unrecoverable loss.


Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney has decried the losses on the auto bailout and insisted that forcing GM and Chrysler Group LLC to go through bankruptcy first would have saved taxpayers money.


But President George W. Bush — who gave the automakers and their finance arms about $25 billion in his final weeks in office in bailout funds — said there wasn't time.


The country can hold that remaining stock until the recession is over, the economy is good, and GM is selling autos again, and come out great.
 
Those people seldom do great when a Corporation goes BANKRUPT, moron. LOL!


They normally do better than union thugs. The unions ended up with half the company. They should have ended up with nothing.
 
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Bottom line GM owes the American Tax Payer millions upon millions of dollars, period. Now as for GM and the people that were stuck with their stock / bonds, and unsecured vendors, they were screwed royal so that the unions could be kept whole. One can only hope GM survives long enough for tax payers to be repaid and those stuck with worthless paper can recover something before it collapses again.
No one has been screwed. Everyone is making money on this deal.

He's not wrong. Taxpayers are out 25 billion in dollars we won't get back:
Treasury: U.S. to lose $25 billion on auto bailout | The Detroit News | detroitnews.com

Barack Obama's got alot of gall, going around the country touting GM as some kind of success when it went bankrupt anyway, his "surgical" bankruptsy screwed over investors, dealerships were arbitrarily shut down, and the UAW walked away with big chunks of both GM and Chrysler, not to mention jobs going overseas.
And now, they're already in trouble again:
Is GM already on track to go bankrupt, again? « Hot Air

Yup. Some success story.

We taxpayers, the investors and dealerships got hosed so he could pay back his Union supporters. So he could bail out their mismanaged pension funds.

Yup. Makes my fucking day.
 

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