When Glaciers Attack

[CrusaderFrank]

Since the Warmers are so in love with Glaciers, here's a little article on what life was like before the temporary warming period the Earth started 12,000 years ago when Glaciers roamed free

"Continental ice sheets expanded southward from Canada into the Eastern and Central United States ten or more times during the past 2.5 million years. The area covered by ice varied from one glaciation to another. The glaciations were geologic events, and the events were recorded by glacial deposits.

The time interval between 35,000 and 11,150 calendar years ago is referred to informally as "late Wisconsin time." Late Wisconsin glaciation occurred during late Wisconsin time. During late Wisconsin glaciation, the ice sheet margin reached its maximum southern extent in many parts of the United States between 24,700 and 23,600 years ago, and it had retreated into Canada by about 11,400 years ago."

Glacial Limits

Ahhh, for the good ole days when everything north of the Ohio River was under 60 feet of ice!

Warmers are suicidal and dangerous, if you see one do NOT attempt to talk them out of their delusions.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Fox is going to make this into a series

 

[waltky]

“Third Pole” stable, not melting...

They're Not Melting: 87% of Himalayan Glaciers Are ‘Stable’
May 13, 2014 -- Nearly 87 percent of Himalayan glaciers are currently “stable,” neither melting nor advancing, according to a new study that cast further doubt on claims that melting glacial ice will help cause a dramatic rise in sea levels this century.

Often referred to as the “Third Pole,” the Himalayans contain “one of the largest concentrations of glaciers outside the polar regions,” according to the study by a group of Indian researchers that was published in the April 2014 edition of “Current Science.” “The results of the present study indicate that most of the glaciers were in a steady state compared to the results of other studies carried out for the period prior to 2001,” the study authors conclude. “This period of monitoring almost corresponds to hiatus in global warming in the last decade.”

Of the 2,018 Himalayan glaciers monitored via satellite and validated by 15 field visits, 1,752 (86.8 percent) were holding steady, 248 (12.3 percent) were retreating, and 18 (0.9 percent) were advancing, the researchers found. The glaciers are located in the Karakoram, Himachal, Zanskar, Uttarakhand, Nepal and Sikkim regions, and range in size from less than one square kilometer (45 percent of those monitored) to larger than 20 square kilometers (97 glaciers). “Variations in the extent of these glaciers are understood to be a sensitive indicator of climactic variations of the earth system,” the authors point out.

In 2007, the Fourth Assessment Report of the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) stated that “glaciers in the Himalayas are receding faster than in any other part of the world and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate…The receding and thinning of Himalayan glaciers can be attributed primarily to the global warming due to increase in anthropogenic emission of greenhouse gases.”

Melting of the polar ice caps, the Greenland Ice Sheet and glaciers “are projected to contribute positively to sea level” rises, inundating coastal areas and directly affecting 10 percent of the current world population, claimed the IPPC, which shared the Nobel Peace Prize with Al Gore that year.

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IPCC Report Scientists: Rising Seas in East Antarctica Maybe -- in 2,000 to 10,000 Years
May 12, 2014 -– In the sea-level-change chapter of the September 2013 United Nations’ International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) assessment report, two scientists say that if the “ice-cork region” of East Antarctica disappears, all the ice in the Wilkes Basin could drain into the sea – in 10,000 years.

The report, accessible through purchase on readcube.com, used some observations of the ice but relied mostly on climate simulation models, or PISM, to predict what would happen if the “ice cork” between the Wilkes Basin and the open sea in East Antarctica melted. “The stability of the Wilkes marine ice sheet has not been the subject of any comprehensive assessment of future sea level,” the chapter states. “Using recently improved topographic data in combination with ice-dynamic simulations, we show here that the removal of a specific coast ice volume equivalent to less than 80mm of global sea-level rise at the margin of the Wilkes Basin destabilizes the regional ice flow and leads to a self-sustained discharge of the entire basin and a global sea-level rise of 3-4 meters.”

But if the timeframe for that sea-level rise is difficult to ascertain from the report, an interview with the scientists posted on May 4 on the Climate News Network website reveals that it would take 5,000 to 10,000 years for the entire basin to drain into the sea. That estimate is also based on simulation models. “For all the ice in the Wilkes Basin to be lost in this way would take 5,000-10,000 years, the simulations showed,” the article states. “But once it had started, the discharge of ice would slowly but relentlessly continue until the whole basin was empty, even if the climate ceased to warm.” “This is the underlying issue here,” co-author and scientist Matthias Mengel told the Climate News Network. “By emitting more and more greenhouse gases we might trigger responses now that we may not be able to stop in the future.” “While the sparse existing observations do not indicate warmer water inflow towards the Wilkes ice sheet margin at present, there is no reason why changes similar to those in West Antarctica could not also occur here,” Mengel said.

He further said “some” simulations showed that warm ocean conditions needed to unplug the ice-cork could happen in the next 200 years, but “it would take around 2,000 years to raise global sea levels by one meter”– or about 3 feet. “We have detected a new and previously overlooked source of sea level rise, therefore these numbers have to be added to the present sea level rise projections of the IPCC,” Mengel said. “The full sea-level rise would ultimately be up to 80 times bigger than the initial melting of the ice cork,” Anders Levermann, lead author of the chapter, told the Climate News Network. “Until recently, only West Antarctica was considered unstable, but now we know that it’s 10-times-bigger counterpart in the East might also be at risk.”

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[CrusaderFrank]

Our only hope is to have IPCC redistribute our wealth. It won't change the climate but so what

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[Toro]

Thank goodness for the glaciers.

They're responsible for all the awesome lakes in Canada!

Bring it, glaciers!

 

[DriftingSand]

On May 11th and 12th, 2014 -- Denver received about 4" of snow. This global warming is freezing my buns off.

 

[Old Rocks]

One of the primary predictions of global warming is that the swings in weather will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. Exactly what we are seeing.

 

[Old Rocks]

Locally receding glaciers

USGS Fact Sheet 2009?3046: Fifty-Year Record of Glacier Change Reveals Shifting Climate in the Pacific Northwest and Alaska, USA

Fifty years of U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) research on glacier change shows recent dramatic shrinkage of glaciers in three climatic regions of the United States. These long periods of record provide clues to the climate shifts that may be driving glacier change.

The USGS Benchmark Glacier Program began in 1957 as a result of research efforts during the International Geophysical Year (Meier and others, 1971). Annual data collection occurs at three glaciers that represent three climatic regions in the United States: South Cascade Glacier in the Cascade Mountains of Washington State; Wolverine Glacier on the Kenai Peninsula near Anchorage, Alaska; and Gulkana Glacier in the interior of Alaska (fig. 1).

 

[Old Rocks]

A trusted source on glaciers, USGS.

http://pubs.usgs.gov/pp/p1386f/pdf/F7_Bhutan.pdf

USGS Professional Paper 1386

 

[CrusaderFrank]

One of the primary predictions of global warming is that the swings in weather will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. Exactly what we are seeing.

What total, unscientific crap.

 

[DriftingSand]

One of the primary predictions of global warming is that the swings in weather will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. Exactly what we are seeing.

You mean we're seeing the warming and cooling trends that have accompanied the globe for century after century after century. There have always been ups and downs. The "climate change" crap is simply designed to further burden American businesses and, thus, weaken our economy. For the New World Order to reach fruition American must be brought to her knees and re-molded into a "territory" or "province" of the New World Government. The screams of warmists is nothing more than another means to an end.

 

[Old Rocks]

One of the primary predictions of global warming is that the swings in weather will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. Exactly what we are seeing.

You mean we're seeing the warming and cooling trends that have accompanied the globe for century after century after century. There have always been ups and downs. The "climate change" crap is simply designed to further burden American businesses and, thus, weaken our economy. For the New World Order to reach fruition American must be brought to her knees and re-molded into a "territory" or "province" of the New World Government. The screams of warmists is nothing more than another means to an end.

Oh, where is my little tin hat, little tin hat, little tin hat.........................

You are so full of silly shit. Every Scientifc Society, every single National Academy of Science, and every single major University in the world states that AGW is real, and a clear and present danger. So what you are stating is that these millions of scientists from all the differant countries, political systems, and cultural backgrounds are united in a conspiracy to destroy our nation? Destroy it through making our nation's energy production cleaner and more robust?

 

[Old Rocks]

Thank goodness for the glaciers.

They're responsible for all the awesome lakes in Canada!

Bring it, glaciers!

I'll second that. Saw many of those lakes all the way from BC to Yellowknife. Absolutely beautiful in June and July.

 

[skookerasbil]

One of the primary predictions of global warming is that the swings in weather will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. Exactly what we are seeing.

C'mon Ray.....of all the tall tales told by the AGW crowd, that one is the most laughable and Im not even kidding.

Extreme weather has been going on waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before anybody ever heard of Henry Ford >>>


Chronology of Extreme Weather



Indeed.....one can easily argue, looking at the information on that link above.......that weather was far more extreme a long time ago. So many devestating events!!!

 

[mamooth]

You mean we're seeing the warming and cooling trends

But we're not seeing any cooling trends.

Before posting here, please exit your kook fantasy world. Frank and Skook give us enough such brainless babbling, and your further contributions are unnecessary.

The "climate change" crap is simply designed to further burden American businesses and, thus, weaken our economy. For the New World Order to reach fruition American must be brought to her knees and re-molded into a "territory" or "province" of the New World Government. The screams of warmists is nothing more than another means to an end.

So you're just another hysterical conspiracy theorist. If all the science says you're a jabbering retard -- and it does -- just declare all the science is a vast global socialist conspiracy. Boring, but standard behavior for the barking kook right political cult.

Next time, let everyone know from the start you're a bedwetting right-wing-fruitloop conspiracy cultist. That way, nobody will waste any time wondering if they should take you seriously.

 

[PoliticalChic]

One of the primary predictions of global warming is that the swings in weather will be wider and wilder, with an overall warming. Exactly what we are seeing.

Rocks.....what are you doing here?

I thought you'd be out celebrating!

After all....today is Daniel Fahrenheit's birthday (May 14, 1686- old calendar)....

.....what would you Warmists do without him????