When did Christianity invent hell and god’s imaginary condemnation of man?

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    I am my father's only daughter-----I have four brothers----I know all
    about what BOYS DO
     
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    not exactly-----HUMANISM yes----not exactly "secular"
     
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    Same difference.
     
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    If at home, would you allow evil, like the rape of your daughter, to happen in front of you without doing anything?

    If you would do nothing then you would be as vile a prick as a god who would follow your lead and also just watch.

    One must then conclude that their is no god, or that if there is, he is a heartless and immoral prick.

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    Or that you are failing the test.
     
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    It’s called free will.
    How do you know how much kindness to extend to someone without that kindness being destructive?
     
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    Whose free will? Yours if you do nothing?
    God's who likely has none given that there is no such entity that I know of?
    Or the rapists free willed choice to rape?

    Strange that you seem to equate preventing a rape as a kindness on our parts when I see it more as a duty.

    If you think I am a snowplough parent if I prevent the rape of my daughter, if I had one, then I don't think you are defining that term correctly.

    I would not take all challenges from children. That does not mean that it is ok to let them get raped.

    I don't know about where you come from but here in Canada, there is a law against my allowing a crime to be committed.

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    Your anger prevents you from understanding questions.
    Atheists are very angry people.
     
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    20 Top Bible Verses About Hell - Scripture Quotes
     
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    You have so much to learn. I'm curious to know how old you are? You come across as a rebellious, angry 16 year old, who thinks he knows everything.
     
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