When Cops Get Caught Sanitizing And Flat-Out Lying About Brutality

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When Cops Get Caught Sanitizing And Flat-Out Lying About Brutality

A number of high-profile cases over the past few years suggest that something even more disturbing can happen when police are given the responsibility of self-reporting violence. The instances below offer clear evidence of cops -- and in some cases, their superiors -- attempting to sanitize, mischaracterize or simply lie about the use of force. They raise disquieting questions about what might have happened if videos of the incidents had never surfaced -- and how many similar incidents never become known to the public.

"The shackles accidentally hit one of her arms."
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New Orleans police Officer Terrance Saulny was fired earlier this year after an internal investigation concluded that he had used "unauthorized force" in the 2014 incident captured in the above surveillance video. Saulny can be seen repeatedly striking a 16-year-old girl who was in a holding cell following an arrest.

Saulny reportedly informed his supervisor immediately following the encounter, which left the girl with minor injuries, according to a police report. In a later interview with investigators, Saulny explained his decision to use force.

"[Saulny] stated he felt threatened, so he just pushed her to the left," investigators wrote,according to the New Orleans Times-Picayune. "He attempted to grab her arm and tried to put shackles on her and when she resisted by pulling away he tried grabbing her again and her arms went up and the shackles accidentally hit one of her arms."

Saulny's attorney has said his client plans to appeal his termination.

"The officer 'escorted [the suspect] to the floor.'"
Vine

In the surveillance video, first obtained by the Colorado Springs Independent, a handcuffed Acker, then 19 and at a hospital for medical clearance following an arrest, is seen kicking Officer Tyler Walker, who responds by slamming her to the ground. In the words of an officer who filed a police report on the incident, Walker "escorted Ms. Acker to the floor." According to another officer's report, he "rolled her out of the chair to the floor."

Walker is still employed by the Colorado Springs Police Department.


"A physical altercation ensued."
Watch Nick Wing s Vine A physical altercation ensues.


In July 2014, a passing motorist filmed as California Highway Patrol Officer Daniel Andrew rained blows down on Marlene Pinnock, a 51-year-old grandmother who was walking along a freeway. A CHP incident summary of the incident claimed that Pinnock became "physically combative" when Andrew attempted to pull her away from traffic, at which time "a physical altercation ensued."

In September, Andrew agreed to resign from the CHP. Pinnock accepted $1.5 million from the agency to settle the civil rights lawsuit she'd filed.
 
Caught on camera Dallas cop confronts teen

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Rossi told internal investigators that he put his arm around the boy to console him.

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There are bad cops, and there are bad civilians. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how much you want to be on just one side of the issue.
 
Bad apples spoil the whole bunch... too much generalizing going on in this world..........
 
There are bad cops, and there are bad civilians. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how much you want to be on just one side of the issue.

The problem is tho that the bad civilians go to jail. The bad cops dont. So whats the deterrence? Retirement?

Dont threaten me with a good time
 
There are bad cops, and there are bad civilians. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how much you want to be on just one side of the issue.

The problem is tho that the bad civilians go to jail. The bad cops dont. So whats the deterrence? Retirement?

Dont threaten me with a good time

that's crap. Everyone (police, military, civilian etc.) gets caught, gets punished or gets protection.
it's an even playing field. People portray it as "not" to promote their agenda....
 
There are bad cops, and there are bad civilians. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how much you want to be on just one side of the issue.

The problem is tho that the bad civilians go to jail. The bad cops dont. So whats the deterrence? Retirement?

Dont threaten me with a good time

Or the bad civilians get killed for doing very stupid things like resisting arrest and attacking people, and you pass it off as if 'hey, laws don't apply to them,' and you then try to put all the blame on the cops. Almost every single time I read your posts you come from such a biased viewpoint that you practically condemn the cops. Why can't people be more reasonable? It is not that difficult. And as for saying the bad cops don't go to jail, I'm not so sure, since our media has focused their biased spotlight on the police. Pretty sure there have been some instances of cops being jailed/charged/sued/fired for doing bad things. Does this mean that some cops can't get away with it? No, I'm certain they do. Same with civilians.

What I see is more than some on the Left who absolutely refuse to consider that the dead civilian's actions may have contributed to him getting killed. Like that guy who tried to run over an officer. In spite of that we still had packs of ignorant and stupid people protesting.
 
Everyone (police, military, civilian etc.) gets caught, gets punished or gets \

No, not always. Gotta keep it within reason. Definitely not always. The system ain't perfect.
 
Why are liberal clown faces at war with law enforcement? Caught in a DUI traffic stop? I never heard of the legal concept of "sanitizing brutality" until the radical left invented it. So far in 2015, about 68 brave hero Police Officers, male and female, white and black, died in the line of duty to serve and protect your ungrateful asses.
 
And those LEO deaths are mourned.

As are the deaths of citizens unnecessarily ended by LEO.

Context, podjos, context.

There were no "bad" cops in our town. They knew better, because they knew their fellow law-abiding citizens would not tolerate it. Any "bad copy" behavior would be remediated quickly, and the good officers knew it and appreciated it.
 
Blah blah blah blah blah.

C-FAGs war on cops is getting old and tired. There's 1,000,000 cops in America. Even 10,000 criminal cops would only make 1%.

And C-FAGS can't give me 10,000 bad cop links. Any population of humans has bad ones.
 
Blah blah blah blah blah.

C-FAGs war on cops is getting old and tired. There's 1,000,000 cops in America. Even 10,000 criminal cops would only make 1%.

And C-FAGS can't give me 10,000 bad cop links. Any population of humans has bad ones.
The syntax and diction do not make sense. You are unhappy the civilians will police the police when necessary? You are going to live the rest of your life very unhappily. Instead, help police the bad police.
 
This problem has been around a LONG TIME. It hasn't gotten any better. It has only gotten worse. There is no incentive to change. The whole system is corrupt.

The Police Are Still Out of Control
The Police Are Still Out of Control - Frank Serpico - POLITICO Magazine
I should know.
By FRANK SERPICO

And today the Blue Wall of Silence endures in towns and cities across America. Whistleblowers in police departments — or as I like to call them, “lamp lighters,” after Paul Revere — are still turned into permanent pariahs. The complaint I continue to hear is that when they try to bring injustice to light they are told by government officials: “We can’t afford a scandal; it would undermine public confidence in our police.” That confidence, I dare say, is already seriously undermined.


Things might have improved in some areas. The days when I served and you could get away with anything, when cops were better at accounting than at law enforcement — keeping meticulous records of the people they were shaking down, stealing drugs and money from dealers on a regular basis — all that no longer exists as systematically as it once did, though it certainly does in some places. Times have changed. It’s harder to be a venal cop these days.


But an even more serious problem — police violence — has probably grown worse, and it’s out of control for the same reason that graft once was: a lack of accountability.


<snip>
Law enforcement agencies need to eliminate those who use and abuse the power of the law as they see fit. As I said to the Knapp Commission 43 years ago, we must create an atmosphere where the crooked cop fears the honest cop, and not the other way around. An honest cop should be able to speak out against unjust or illegal behavior by fellow officers without fear of ridicule or reprisals. Those that speak out should be rewarded and respected by their superiors, not punished.


We’re not there yet.


<snip>


Over the years, politicians who wanted to make a difference didn’t. They were too beholden to the police unions and the police vote. I wrote a letter to President Bill Clinton in 1994 addressing this very issue, saying that honest cops have never been rewarded, and maybe there ought to be a medal for them. He wrote back, but nothing changed. In New York City, then-Mayor Michael Bloomberg professed that things were going to change, but in the end he went right along with his commissioner, Ray Kelly, who was allowed to do whatever he wanted. Kelly had been a sergeant when I was on the force, and he’d known about the corruption, as did Murphy.


As for Barack Obama and his attorney general, Eric Holder, they’re giving speeches now, after Ferguson. But it’s 20 years too late. It’s the same old problem of political power talking, and it doesn’t matter that both the president and his attorney general are African-American. Corruption is color blind. Money and power corrupt, and they are color blind too.





Only a few years ago, a cop who was in the same 81st Precinct I started in, Adrian Schoolcraft, was actually taken to a psych ward and handcuffed to a gurney for six days after he tried to complain about corruption – they wanted him to keep to a quota of summonses, and he wasn’t complying. No one would have believed him except he hid a tape recorder in his room, and recorded them making their demands. Now he’s like me, an outcast.


If you have never watched the movie SERPICO, I recommend you see it, you will understand much more how the system works.
 
There are bad cops, and there are bad civilians. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how much you want to be on just one side of the issue.

The problem is tho that the bad civilians go to jail. The bad cops dont. So whats the deterrence? Retirement?

Dont threaten me with a good time

that's crap. Everyone (police, military, civilian etc.) gets caught, gets punished or gets protection.
it's an even playing field. People portray it as "not" to promote their agenda....

Nice non defense. I agree it is indefensible
 
Blah blah blah blah blah.

C-FAGs war on cops is getting old and tired. There's 1,000,000 cops in America. Even 10,000 criminal cops would only make 1%.

And C-FAGS can't give me 10,000 bad cop links. Any population of humans has bad ones.
The syntax and diction do not make sense. You are unhappy the civilians will police the police when necessary? You are going to live the rest of your life very unhappily. Instead, help police the bad police.

The politicians won't allow that.
 
There are bad cops, and there are bad civilians. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how much you want to be on just one side of the issue.

The problem is tho that the bad civilians go to jail. The bad cops dont. So whats the deterrence? Retirement?

Dont threaten me with a good time

Or the bad civilians get killed for doing very stupid things like resisting arrest and attacking people, and you pass it off as if 'hey, laws don't apply to them,' and you then try to put all the blame on the cops. Almost every single time I read your posts you come from such a biased viewpoint that you practically condemn the cops. Why can't people be more reasonable? It is not that difficult. And as for saying the bad cops don't go to jail, I'm not so sure, since our media has focused their biased spotlight on the police. Pretty sure there have been some instances of cops being jailed/charged/sued/fired for doing bad things. Does this mean that some cops can't get away with it? No, I'm certain they do. Same with civilians.

What I see is more than some on the Left who absolutely refuse to consider that the dead civilian's actions may have contributed to him getting killed. Like that guy who tried to run over an officer. In spite of that we still had packs of ignorant and stupid people protesting.

great non defense. Of course actions may contribute to many things thats kinda common sense. But were talking about any actions being used as a contributing factor for any level of escalation that happens ever.

But thanks tho, I laid out specific examples, you respond in general. See the difference?
 
There are bad cops, and there are bad civilians. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how much you want to be on just one side of the issue.

The problem is tho that the bad civilians go to jail. The bad cops dont. So whats the deterrence? Retirement?

Dont threaten me with a good time

that's crap. Everyone (police, military, civilian etc.) gets caught, gets punished or gets protection.
it's an even playing field. People portray it as "not" to promote their agenda....

Nice non defense. I agree it is indefensible

Hey! I'm good, what more can I say???? :biggrin:
 
Why are liberal clown faces at war with law enforcement? Caught in a DUI traffic stop? I never heard of the legal concept of "sanitizing brutality" until the radical left invented it. So far in 2015, about 68 brave hero Police Officers, male and female, white and black, died in the line of duty to serve and protect your ungrateful asses.

If a post is war then what do you call a killing? Armageddon?

Dont get caught up on Sanitizing Brutality. Those are just two words that you know put together. Lying is a more commonly used term. They lie to protect themselves
 
There are bad cops, and there are bad civilians. Two wrongs don't make a right, no matter how much you want to be on just one side of the issue.

The problem is tho that the bad civilians go to jail. The bad cops dont. So whats the deterrence? Retirement?

Dont threaten me with a good time

that's crap. Everyone (police, military, civilian etc.) gets caught, gets punished or gets protection.
it's an even playing field. People portray it as "not" to promote their agenda....

Not True. The system is rigged. Just one example among many.
Prosecutor in Michael Brown Case Has Deep Family Ties to Police
Prosecutor in Michael Brown Case Has Deep Family Ties to Police - NBC News
Addicting Info Ferguson Prosecutor Discovered With Connection To Darren Wilson s Defense Fundraiser
Rarely are there independent investigations. It's always internal investigations, Grand Jury hearings, and closed to the public trials. It's all politics.

Would these recommendations every be considered? Fat chance.

The sum total of all that experience can be encapsulated in a few simple rules for the future:

1. Strengthen the selection process and psychological screening process for police recruits. Police departments are simply a microcosm of the greater society. If your screening standards encourage corrupt and forceful tendencies, you will end up with a larger concentration of these types of individuals;


2. Provide ongoing, examples-based training and simulations. Not only telling but showing police officers how they are expected to behave and react is critical;


3. Require community involvement from police officers so they know the districts and the individuals they are policing. This will encourage empathy and understanding;


4. Enforce the laws against everyone, including police officers. When police officers do wrong, use those individuals as examples of what not to do – so that others know that this behavior will not be tolerated. And tell the police unions and detective endowment associations they need to keep their noses out of the justice system;


5. Support the good guys. Honest cops who tell the truth and behave in exemplary fashion should be honored, promoted and held up as strong positive examples of what it means to be a cop;


6. Last but not least, police cannot police themselves. Develop permanent, independent boards to review incidents of police corruption and brutality—and then fund them well and support them publicly. Only this can change a culture that has existed since the beginnings of the modern police department.
The Police Are Still Out of Control - Frank Serpico - POLITICO Magazine
 
Blah blah blah blah blah.

C-FAGs war on cops is getting old and tired. There's 1,000,000 cops in America. Even 10,000 criminal cops would only make 1%.

And C-FAGS can't give me 10,000 bad cop links. Any population of humans has bad ones.
The syntax and diction do not make sense. You are unhappy the civilians will police the police when necessary? You are going to live the rest of your life very unhappily. Instead, help police the bad police.

The politicians won't allow that.
It's been changing. The system can't tolerate continuing large settlements for victims at taxpayers' expense.
 

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