When an emergency come up, you can set aside religious doctrine?

[CausingPAIN]

I have been enlightening, that if an emergency comes up and needs to be dealt with. Religion can be a side, switched off and this is interesting. Live day in and day out by the book of god, an emergency pops up. You hit that suspend button until the emergencies over. This is absolutely fascinating, every time you wanna pin something down. The goal post moves, I'd find it a little frustrating myself. Religion has an on , off switch based on emergencies? This stuff gets better and better every day.

 

[flacaltenn]

People with self-discipline are rational. And religious discipline is too. Israel doesn't take a day off when fighting a war. Neither does God want you to die on Sunday (or Saturday) waiting in the Emergency room.

Sounds like you might have problems with rationality and self-discipline.. Since it's obvious that your objective here is to mock people of faith.. These folks get up early on Sunday or late on Friday night and feel obligated to go get inspired and mix with their fellow worshippers.

Do you have traditions and disciplines that you subject yourself to? Or are you pretty much just on cruise control making up rules and schedules as you go along?

 

[koshergrl]

I couldn't even make sense out of what the OP was blathering about.

Sounds mentally ill to me.

 

[flacaltenn]

I couldn't even make sense out of what the OP was blathering about.

Sounds mentally ill to me.

I believe the OP THINKS they've NEWLY discovered a fatal flaw in religious observation and intends to use this "hypocrisy" to mock people of faith..

Unfortunately -- the discoverer didn't have the sense to Google anything before they decided to attack..

 

[RetiredGySgt]

All religions that I know of allow one to skip certain ceremonies or rituals under certain conditions. Not because they are not important but because everyone is a mortal and lives within mankind, Things like work, school, medical emergencies, Government requirements and others allow certain religions to postpone delay or miss daily rituals that interfere with the real world.

Can't think of any of hand for anybody but Islam. They are tasked with praying 5 times a day. However school comes before prayer and work requirements can and do set aside some of the daily prayers. The devout can delay the prayer till it does not interfere with school or work, or if the setting is inappropriate they can skip some of the prayers because of the environment.

 

[Mad Scientist]

I have been enlightening, that if an emergency comes up and needs to be dealt with. Religion can be a side, switched off and this is interesting. Live day in and day out by the book of god, an emergency pops up. You hit that suspend button until the emergencies over. This is absolutely fascinating, every time you wanna pin something down. The goal post moves, I'd find it a little frustrating myself. Religion has an on , off switch based on emergencies? This stuff gets better and better every day.

What do you mean by Emergency? Is it "Life Threatening" or just a simple inconvenience?

 

[CausingPAIN]

People with self-discipline are rational. And religious discipline is too. Israel doesn't take a day off when fighting a war. Neither does God want you to die on Sunday (or Saturday) waiting in the Emergency room.

Sounds like you might have problems with rationality and self-discipline.. Since it's obvious that your objective here is to mock people of faith.. These folks get up early on Sunday or late on Friday night and feel obligated to go get inspired and mix with their fellow worshippers.

Do you have traditions and disciplines that you subject yourself to? Or are you pretty much just on cruise control making up rules and schedules as you go along?

Confirmation you can modify the the doctrine rules as we go along. Fighting a war, I would think we can be rational not put the guns away for the day, that's dangerous.
Mocking aside, my proposed emergency is a house, so an adjustment has been made that goes against scripture/ doctrine by man. If we can make this adjustment, can we not make more? My example was about a fire of the house no mention as life threatening, just the house. Would there be a different course of action if Life threatening? And if I understand this the burning house is a minimal standard that religion can be set aside?

 

[CausingPAIN]

I couldn't even make sense out of what the OP was blathering about.

Sounds mentally ill to me.

Whatsoever necessary.

 

[CausingPAIN]

All religions that I know of allow one to skip certain ceremonies or rituals under certain conditions. Not because they are not important but because everyone is a mortal and lives within mankind, Things like work, school, medical emergencies, Government requirements and others allow certain religions to postpone delay or miss daily rituals that interfere with the real world.

Can't think of any of hand for anybody but Islam. They are tasked with praying 5 times a day. However school comes before prayer and work requirements can and do set aside some of the daily prayers. The devout can delay the prayer till it does not interfere with school or work, or if the setting is inappropriate they can skip some of the prayers because of the environment.

First paragraph sounds reasonable and rational, I don't require god myself.
Islam's regiment five times a day is much tougher, again an adjustment here by the less rigid. It is fascinating sometimes reviewing all the different flavors.
I recall the newscast, battles been wage by our armed forces, fighting in the foreground, background a whole bunch of people were praying on the ground interrupting the battle. Go figure?

 

[flacaltenn]

People with self-discipline are rational. And religious discipline is too. Israel doesn't take a day off when fighting a war. Neither does God want you to die on Sunday (or Saturday) waiting in the Emergency room.

Sounds like you might have problems with rationality and self-discipline.. Since it's obvious that your objective here is to mock people of faith.. These folks get up early on Sunday or late on Friday night and feel obligated to go get inspired and mix with their fellow worshippers.

Do you have traditions and disciplines that you subject yourself to? Or are you pretty much just on cruise control making up rules and schedules as you go along?

Confirmation you can modify the the doctrine rules as we go along. Fighting a war, I would think we can be rational not put the guns away for the day, that's dangerous.
Mocking aside, my proposed emergency is a house, so an adjustment has been made that goes against scripture/ doctrine by man. If we can make this adjustment, can we not make more? My example was about a fire of the house no mention as life threatening, just the house. Would there be a different course of action if Life threatening? And if I understand this the burning house is a minimal standard that religion can be set aside?

Hey! Got an idea.. Why don't you google "burning house" "Tel Aviv" Sabbath and see how many houses are left burning there on the Saturdays...

What's the point here? You don't like the discipline of being retrospective one day a week?
Sitting down to eat with the extended family one night a week sound like a real drag to you? Whatchyour prob?

Didn't answer my question about YOUR self-discipline and tradition didya?... Don't want or need any of that? Fine -- buzz off..

 

[The Irish Ram]

What the heck are you talking about Pain?
The Bible says to take all things to God, especially your emergencies Why would you abandon His counsel, in a time of need? Can you think of someone better to take His place when you are facing a troubling situation?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I have been enlightening, that if an emergency comes up and needs to be dealt with. Religion can be a side, switched off and this is interesting. Live day in and day out by the book of god, an emergency pops up. You hit that suspend button until the emergencies over. This is absolutely fascinating, every time you wanna pin something down. The goal post moves, I'd find it a little frustrating myself. Religion has an on , off switch based on emergencies? This stuff gets better and better every day.

What are you talking about? What makes you think religious people move the goalposts simply because you declare an emergency? I don't recall any examples of Gandhi switching off his religion in emergencies, do you have examples?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

People with self-discipline are rational. And religious discipline is too. Israel doesn't take a day off when fighting a war. Neither does God want you to die on Sunday (or Saturday) waiting in the Emergency room.

Sounds like you might have problems with rationality and self-discipline.. Since it's obvious that your objective here is to mock people of faith.. These folks get up early on Sunday or late on Friday night and feel obligated to go get inspired and mix with their fellow worshippers.

Do you have traditions and disciplines that you subject yourself to? Or are you pretty much just on cruise control making up rules and schedules as you go along?

Confirmation you can modify the the doctrine rules as we go along. Fighting a war, I would think we can be rational not put the guns away for the day, that's dangerous.
Mocking aside, my proposed emergency is a house, so an adjustment has been made that goes against scripture/ doctrine by man. If we can make this adjustment, can we not make more? My example was about a fire of the house no mention as life threatening, just the house. Would there be a different course of action if Life threatening? And if I understand this the burning house is a minimal standard that religion can be set aside?

All this confirms is you are really confused. If someone is trying to kill you, or others, and your religion does not have a strict code of non violence, you are allowed to defend yourself even if it means breaking a rule about not picking anything up on one day of the week.

Come to think of it, the laws we live by in this country work the same way. Everyone knows it is illegal to speed, or to drive on the wrong side of the road, but the law actually allows us to do both of those things legally if doing so would save a life. In fact, you can even get a police escort that will help you to break the law under those circumstances. Does that make the people who do this, but who would never do this under any other circumstances, guilty of moving the goalposts because it is inconvenient?

There is no rational argument you can possibly make against anyone who breaks a little rule to protect a life because life is more important than rules.

 

[flacaltenn]

In Orthodox Judaism there ARE prescriptions on how far you can WORK to put out a fire on the Sabbath. THAT'S probably what he's referring to.. Only the most OTHODOX pay any attention to the tonnage of Talmudic speculation about "what God meant" -- in this case --- about resting on the Sabbath day..

If the OP or any other biggot obsessed with the hypocrisy of faith wants to pretend that these kinds of INTERNAL debates within a religion just nullifies any consistent doctrines of the faith --- have at it..

It'll just amplify their ignorance of that religion and their beliefs..

 

[Avatar4321]

I have been enlightening, that if an emergency comes up and needs to be dealt with. Religion can be a side, switched off and this is interesting. Live day in and day out by the book of god, an emergency pops up. You hit that suspend button until the emergencies over. This is absolutely fascinating, every time you wanna pin something down. The goal post moves, I'd find it a little frustrating myself. Religion has an on , off switch based on emergencies? This stuff gets better and better every day.

What on earth are you talking about? What emergency can pop up that shuts religion off?

 

[PixieStix]

I have been enlightening, that if an emergency comes up and needs to be dealt with. Religion can be a side, switched off and this is interesting. Live day in and day out by the book of god, an emergency pops up. You hit that suspend button until the emergencies over. This is absolutely fascinating, every time you wanna pin something down. The goal post moves, I'd find it a little frustrating myself. Religion has an on , off switch based on emergencies? This stuff gets better and better every day.

Geez dude, I think you may be an emergency. I will pray for your recovery

 

[CausingPAIN]

People with self-discipline are rational. And religious discipline is too. Israel doesn't take a day off when fighting a war. Neither does God want you to die on Sunday (or Saturday) waiting in the Emergency room.

Sounds like you might have problems with rationality and self-discipline.. Since it's obvious that your objective here is to mock people of faith.. These folks get up early on Sunday or late on Friday night and feel obligated to go get inspired and mix with their fellow worshippers.

Do you have traditions and disciplines that you subject yourself to? Or are you pretty much just on cruise control making up rules and schedules as you go along?

Confirmation you can modify the the doctrine rules as we go along. Fighting a war, I would think we can be rational not put the guns away for the day, that's dangerous.
Mocking aside, my proposed emergency is a house, so an adjustment has been made that goes against scripture/ doctrine by man. If we can make this adjustment, can we not make more? My example was about a fire of the house no mention as life threatening, just the house. Would there be a different course of action if Life threatening? And if I understand this the burning house is a minimal standard that religion can be set aside?

All this confirms is you are really confused. If someone is trying to kill you, or others, and your religion does not have a strict code of non violence, you are allowed to defend yourself even if it means breaking a rule about not picking anything up on one day of the week.

Come to think of it, the laws we live by in this country work the same way. Everyone knows it is illegal to speed, or to drive on the wrong side of the road, but the law actually allows us to do both of those things legally if doing so would save a life. In fact, you can even get a police escort that will help you to break the law under those circumstances. Does that make the people who do this, but who would never do this under any other circumstances, guilty of moving the goalposts because it is inconvenient?

There is no rational argument you can possibly make against anyone who breaks a little rule to protect a life because life is more important than rules.

Some rules need adjustment, when you're being burned at the stake, based on god good book of teaching

 

[Avatar4321]

Do you even know what you're talking about in this thread?

 

[CausingPAIN]

I have been enlightening, that if an emergency comes up and needs to be dealt with. Religion can be a side, switched off and this is interesting. Live day in and day out by the book of god, an emergency pops up. You hit that suspend button until the emergencies over. This is absolutely fascinating, every time you wanna pin something down. The goal post moves, I'd find it a little frustrating myself. Religion has an on , off switch based on emergencies? This stuff gets better and better every day.

Geez dude, I think you may be an emergency. I will pray for your recovery

Hey, sticks thanks for the concerns and please don't pray for me. My point still stands religion is the ever moving goal post, and adjustments of doctrines on a point by point bases depending on who's ever spewing religious minutiae. That the delusional followers of these fantasies made up by man to control weak minded individuals and profit from it. but if you can control your delusion of fantasies of god, keep them at home and to your personal self. You would be beneficial to the world, as this would be accelerating making it a better place for all.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Confirmation you can modify the the doctrine rules as we go along. Fighting a war, I would think we can be rational not put the guns away for the day, that's dangerous.
Mocking aside, my proposed emergency is a house, so an adjustment has been made that goes against scripture/ doctrine by man. If we can make this adjustment, can we not make more? My example was about a fire of the house no mention as life threatening, just the house. Would there be a different course of action if Life threatening? And if I understand this the burning house is a minimal standard that religion can be set aside?

All this confirms is you are really confused. If someone is trying to kill you, or others, and your religion does not have a strict code of non violence, you are allowed to defend yourself even if it means breaking a rule about not picking anything up on one day of the week.

Come to think of it, the laws we live by in this country work the same way. Everyone knows it is illegal to speed, or to drive on the wrong side of the road, but the law actually allows us to do both of those things legally if doing so would save a life. In fact, you can even get a police escort that will help you to break the law under those circumstances. Does that make the people who do this, but who would never do this under any other circumstances, guilty of moving the goalposts because it is inconvenient?

There is no rational argument you can possibly make against anyone who breaks a little rule to protect a life because life is more important than rules.

Some rules need adjustment, when you're being burned at the stake, based on god good book of teaching

No one was burned at the stake based on anything the Bible teaches.