Wheels Falling Off???

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    Could it be that the wheels are finally falling off of the jury rigged AGW bandwagon? Are the drivers starting to look for an exit?

    Jones and Hansen, the two primaries have acknowledged that there has been no warming now for more than 15 years in spite of steadily rising CO2 and now....

    NOAA actually doing experiments ala the Surface Stations Project and finding that station sitting actually does have an effect on the data being gathered. They acknowledge that their experiment indicates a signifigant warming bias.

    What next, acknowledgements that it has all been a big mistake and the surface station data led them astray?
     
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    hahaha dont get your hopes up. this is zombie science that refuses to die because there is always more money available for funding the same type of research no matter how often it has failed in the past.


    Jones' faulty Chinese UHI paper is still alive despite the obvious fraud and now Muller's BEST UHI paper will obviously get printed up in that bogus self publishing Indian Journal. volume one issue one, no less!
     
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    Links or data to back the flap-yap?
     
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    I would have thought you were at least bright enough to look up something like that....guess I was wrong.

    Via experiment, NOAA establishes a fact about station siting: ?nighttime temperatures are indeed higher closer to the laboratory? | Watts Up With That?

    I guess now you are going to tell me that the information is no good based entirely on where it comes from regardless of links to the source.
     
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    AGW never had wheels, except to the terminally stupid and gullible.
     
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    It's now nearly impossible to find a denialist who isn't a bitter right-wing crank. That's because denialism is now purely a political cult. Few of them know a thing about the science, and few care. They're basically just making crap up now.

    In contrast, AGW science is embraced by the entire political spectrum across the world. That would be because the actual facts aren't political. Sucks to be a denialist, as the entire world is laughing at them now, but hey, they shit their own bed.
     
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    What did I make up? Are you saying that the experiments performed didn't indicate a warming bias? Are you saying that it hasn't been acknowledged that the warming trend has gone flat for the past 15 years at least?

    "science" being embraced by politics? That is cause for suspicion on its own without the failure of models, data tampering and the host of other hocus pocus going on within climate science.

    As to whose laughing, if you were to actually pull your head out of your ass, or the sand, or mann's ass, or wherever you have it buried, you would see that the big rats are indeed positioning themselves for an exit from the failed AGW hypothesis.

    By the way, what is nearly impossible to find is a scientist who doesn't depend on grant money for a living who is on the AGW bandwagon.
     
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    Fact still remains, there is not a single Scientific Society, not a single Academy of Science, or a single major University in any nation whose policy statements do not state that AGW is a fact. And most state that it is a clear and present danger.

    Now that doesn't agree with flap-yap wingnuts, so they simply claim that all scientists are on someone's payroll. And that it is all a grand conspiracy. Even as the Arctic Ice Cap and Alpine Glaciers are melting. Even as thousands of temperature records for heat are being broke every year on one continent or the other. Even as we see the increase in acidity in the ocean begin to negatively affect the very base of the food chain. Even as we see extreme weather events increase double and triple.

    Not to worry. You can ignore reality. Reality will not return the favor. You can be sure that in the future, you will experiance the reality of a changing climate.
     
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    The fact remains that the vast majority of the bodies of those scientific societies are not on the agw hoax bandwagon....and the fact remains that you would be hard pressed to find any scientist who doesn't depend on grant money who is on the bandwagon...and the fact remains that people like you who support corruption in science are as guilty as those who have been corrupted by money and noteriety.
     
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    Some proof of that statement. From a credible source. Or stand as a proven liar.
     

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