What's wrong with Unions?

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I am not sure why conservatives fear and dislike unions. It seems they operate in a conservative fashion, and continue building America and making it a better place. What's wrong with Unions?
 
I am not sure why conservatives fear and dislike unions. It seems they operate in a conservative fashion, and continue building America and making it a better place. What's wrong with Unions?

Conservatives do?.....i belong to a Union with many guys in it who are Conservative Republicans......so i guess you misspoke....:eusa_eh:
 
Graft, corruption, intimidation, lazy workers...the list is endless.
 
Unions do not earn, save and fund the capital going into a business. Their workers retire quicker and faster than management and have better benefit packages than mid and lower level management. Union workers receive overtime pay. Management works off a salary.
If they could receive higher dues from a Republican candidate then they would change loyalties in a second.
Unions are for people that are not confident and intelligent enough to negotiate their pay with the individual skills they have.
 
I am not sure why conservatives fear and dislike unions. It seems they operate in a conservative fashion, and continue building America and making it a better place. What's wrong with Unions?

SHITao, Originally, unions were necessary. Even today some legit, clean unions are a good thing.

As for the present day unions .....in general, NO EXPLANATIONS ARE NECESSARY !!!

If you can't figure it out, you're a bigger Obamarrhoidal LIEberrhoid idiot than I thought you were.
 
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Unions do not earn, save and fund the capital going into a business. Their workers retire quicker and faster than management and have better benefit packages than mid and lower level management. Union workers receive overtime pay. Management works off a salary.
If they could receive higher dues from a Republican candidate then they would change loyalties in a second.
Unions are for people that are not confident and intelligent enough to negotiate their pay with the individual skills they have.

Gadawg, this is unfair. You cannot "negotiate with your individual skills" for job security or safe working conditions, etc., if your work is unskilled or semi-skilled. There are unions other than the UAW, yanno.
 
I am not sure why conservatives fear and dislike unions. It seems they operate in a conservative fashion, and continue building America and making it a better place. What's wrong with Unions?

Are you trying to supplant rdean?

The same thought occurred to me.

However I still think rdeanie-weanie is leading by a wide margin.

The good news is that Zonie-Baloney isn't heard from that much......
 
What is wrong with unions. Well Besides Corruption and connections to organized crime. The real problem is they Push for more and more benefits and pay for their workers at any cost. In cases like the UAW to the point that the companies they rely on for their jobs, can not compete and be competitive in the market because of Ridicules operating costs and outrageous Union Demands.

Unions are a classic case of a good thing gone bad. Something started for the most noble and Real Reasons that has now become detrimental to entire industries and therefore the people they represent.
 
Mebbe in some industries. But not in all, and where unions have gone off the rails, the business' owners dun have clean hands either.

Oh believe me I am not saying Business has clean hands. I am simply pointing out that many Unions seem to ignore that what they demand of their Industries has an effect on the ability of that industry to compete in the global Market. The UAW is but one example but it is a good one. The left tries to blame the Car companies problems on poor decision on their part. Yes they made some and it did not help, but anyone with a clear head can see that the Main Problem with the US car companies is How much of the cost of each care is eaten up by Pension plans, Health care and wages that are the TOP in the world.

Look at the public Sector unions. Why do you think Federal Government employees make twice as much as their Private sector counter parts. If the Government was a for profit business it would go out of business and a large part of the reason why would be the Unrealistic demands of the Public Sector unions.
 
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True, all true. But it was dishonest of the auto companies to sit at the bargaining table and agree to pay $65/hr plus benefits for an assembly line worker to begin with.
 
I am not sure why conservatives fear and dislike unions. It seems they operate in a conservative fashion, and continue building America and making it a better place. What's wrong with Unions?
They're obviously socialists....seeing-as-how they suggest everyone was responsible for any-and-all companies' succe$$e$.​

"Are American employers meaner than their European counterparts and American forebears? I doubt it. The difference is that American workers have markedly less power than their European counterparts and their American forebears."
 

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