What's Wrong With Talking To North Korea?...

Gee, talk to North Korea, great idea. Wonder why no one thought of that up til now? Oh wait, we have and even have imposed sanctions on them to bring them to the table, but they do not negotiate. They don't have to, China helps them out directly or indirectly every time. Stop trying to make this a US failure.
The NK pervert has NEVER even spoken with ANY diplomate from China. If the pervert won't speak with China does anyone in their right mind believe the pervert will speak with the US government????????????
The ONLY thing the pervert understands is force. He's a fucking coward!
Some of the pervert's generals are going to 'off' the pervert and then the military will take over the country and the first thing they will do is send a negotiating team to the US.
Bank on it!
 
Gee, talk to North Korea, great idea. Wonder why no one thought of that up til now? Oh wait, we have and even have imposed sanctions on them to bring them to the table, but they do not negotiate. They don't have to, China helps them out directly or indirectly every time. Stop trying to make this a US failure.
The NK pervert has NEVER even spoken with ANY diplomate from China. If the pervert won't speak with China does anyone in their right mind believe the pervert will speak with the US government????????????
The ONLY thing the pervert understands is force. He's a fucking coward!
Some of the pervert's generals are going to 'off' the pervert and then the military will take over the country and the first thing they will do is send a negotiating team to the US.
Bank on it!
NK is not required to speak with anyone. It's their call not yours, Snowflake. Now, off to your safe space.
 
The NK pervert has NEVER even spoken with ANY diplomate from China. If the pervert won't speak with China does anyone in their right mind believe the pervert will speak with the US government????????????
The ONLY thing the pervert understands is force. He's a fucking coward!
Some of the pervert's generals are going to 'off' the pervert and then the military will take over the country and the first thing they will do is send a negotiating team to the US.
Bank on it!
Maybe.

Again, our political elites created this monster years ago. The best strategy is to let NK do what NK does, and pay no attention. Or, let the people rise up and liberate themselves from the "pervert" in chief.
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Antagonizing NK is probably helping the NK people hope for change.
 
Talking with them? What's wrong with leaving them the hell alone? Their nukes are none of our business. Damn Americans trying to play World Police again. Stay home and shut up. Fix your own damn nation for a change.
You're an idiot!
If the US said we are turning our backs on our friends and allies SK and Japan the pervert would invade those countries within 24 hours.
The pervert wants nukes so he can threaten his neighbors.
Not in this reality you dummy!
 
You're an idiot!
If the US said we are turning our backs on our friends and allies SK and Japan the pervert would invade those countries within 24 hours.
The pervert wants nukes so he can threaten his neighbors.
Not in this reality you dummy!
The "pervert" knows good and goddamn well SK would beat the shit out of them, not to mention the absolute ass-rape NK would get from Japan. But, it's their problem, not ours. Why can't we let them deal with it how they choose?

Why do we have to be the world police?
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Talking with them? What's wrong with leaving them the hell alone? Their nukes are none of our business. Damn Americans trying to play World Police again. Stay home and shut up. Fix your own damn nation for a change.
You're an idiot!
If the US said we are turning our backs on our friends and allies SK and Japan the pervert would invade those countries within 24 hours.
The pervert wants nukes so he can threaten his neighbors.
Not in this reality you dummy!
Why don't you grow the hell up and let other nations do what they need to do, be responsible for themselves? Who has nukes is none of your damn business. The US never asked permission and neither did anyone else. Grow Up!
 
ok... let's say that's been true for 60 years....

is the answer being morons and antagonizing someone with nukes by calling him "rocket man"?
To be fair, it got to this point because decades of prior administrations doing jack shit about the problem or feeding the problem has emboldened NK to the point where sabre-rattling is their only play.

I actually like the antagonizing, because it breaks up the normal routine. NK may be ass-backwards but they know that an actual attack is suicide. They are just trying to scare our masses and keep their masses being good little goose-stepping commies. Trump's antagonizing probably makes the NK people a little more bold. See the recent NK defector.

breaking up the normal can get us nuked.

sorry, the guy in office isn't smart enough or sane enough to take on these problems.
 
If there is a chance to talk to a foreign leader, then you talk to the foreign leader. Period.

There's no rule that they have to be your favorite person. But if they control the country, that's that.
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it would be nice if we still had a state department that could do that.

One that appeases foreign governments over our own interests? That day has passed.
There is a difference between communication and capitulation.

I realize that's not a clear distinction nowadays, but it's true.
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breaking up the normal can get us nuked.

sorry, the guy in office isn't smart enough or sane enough to take on these problems.
Again, to be fair, NONE of the guys in office before the current guy in office were smart enough to deal with these problems. They just kicked the can down the road.

And, I doubt NK will nuke anybody. They just want to get paid.
 
If there is a chance to talk to a foreign leader, then you talk to the foreign leader. Period.

There's no rule that they have to be your favorite person. But if they control the country, that's that.
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it would be nice if we still had a state department that could do that.

One that appeases foreign governments over our own interests? That day has passed.
There is a difference between communication and capitulation.

I realize that's not a clear distinction nowadays, but it's true.
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It should be clear to the American people that the Deep State, Oligarchy, and the military industrial complex (actually there is tremendous amount of overlap with this criminal organizations...essentially they are one) WANT WAR!

It is very likely they are actively working to provoke NK into a war, much like has been done by their predecessors (see all previous US wars). Of course since they control much of the MSM, most Americans are clueless.

Here is an example of the provocations the US is currently undertaking in the hopes the little fat bastard in NK, starts a war.

Heaven Forbid Peace Should Break Out Between the US and North Korea!
Before the latest launch, the Kim Jong Un regime had not fired a missile for two months and was in discussions with other intermediaries about how tensions could be lessened on the Korean peninsula. For the bellicose US, however, not even an uneasy “truce” can be tolerated. The next American scheduled drill was not to take place until the spring of 2018, yet, while negotiations were taking place, the US abruptly, and to the outrage of everyone involved, renewed exercises. Russian Foreign Minister, Sergei Lavrov, explains:

We have been working with Pyongyang. Then,
all of a sudden two weeks after the United States
had sent us the signal [about readiness to dialogue],
they announced unscheduled drills in December.
there is an impression that they were deliberately
provoking [North Korean leader] Kim Jong Un to
make him break the pause and gave in to their
provocations.*


This, of course, is not the first time that the US has acted with duplicity in foreign matters. Its barbaric dealing with two Middle Eastern strongmen (Saddam Hussein, Muammar Gaddafi) are grisly examples of what happens to those who run afoul of the US Empire, especially those who do not possesses a nuclear deterrent.
 
Kinda sad so many Americans are in such a rush for more war. Why do Americans love war so much? It's a very interesting question. While pondering that, check out this article.


By Jonathan Marshall

Anyone who says talk is cheap hasn’t tried getting President Trump to talk with his North Korean counterpart, Kim Jong Un. Not even the specter of a war that could kill millions of people on the Korean peninsula, Japan and now even the continental United States seems sufficient to push the two leaders into negotiations. Both sides insist on unacceptable preconditions before they will even consider holding formal talks to reach a peaceful settlement.

Successful negotiations might end Washington’s economic sanctions and military preparations against North Korea, but Pyongyang demands that outcome before it even starts talks. Two weeks ago, North Korea’s ambassador to the United Nations, Han Tae Song, said, “As long as there is continuous hostile policy against my country by the U.S. and as long as there are continued war games at our doorstep, then there will not be negotiations.”

On the other hand, the fact that South Korea sent seven warships in mid-November to join three U.S. aircraft carriers for war games off the coast of the Korean Peninsula almost seemed calculated to keep Pyongyang away from the bargaining table. U.S. and South Korean plans to start a massive five-day air force exercise on Dec. 4 will doubtless do the same. And the Trump administration’s recent designation of North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism...

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And the pinnacle of talks concerning the OP:



Ah, same ole Warmonger shite. Anyone who won't go along, just has to be 'The New Hitler.' I'm over that.

Historical photos always triggers the haters.
 
Talking with them? What's wrong with leaving them the hell alone? Their nukes are none of our business. Damn Americans trying to play World Police again. Stay home and shut up. Fix your own damn nation for a change.

I hear ya, but it's not about being the 'World's Policeman.' I used to think that too. But now i realize it's about Imperialist world domination. Any world leader refusing to be a US/West Puppet, is targeted for death. It's not about 'Policing.' It's about domination.
It could be about the price of bananas for all I care. It needs to stop and Americans need to grow up and shut up. An overgrown child leads the nation.
Funny when Obama started wars with other nations you never objected.
 
64 years of talking has been a complete failure. Any dialogue with North Korea ends in concessions that never help the citizens of the country only the ruling elite and the military. When they need more, another crisis is started just like the current one.
 
Talking to the North Korean regime has been tried by multiple presidents and failed. There's only one country who can smack North Korea into line, China. If war breaks out between North Korea and the United States it will destroy China's economy so if we get to the brink look for China to invade North Korea and deal with them.
 
Can't hurt to talk.
You would think that we'd want to be communicating absolutely as openly as possible until the very last moment.

With millions and millions of lives on the line. No. Matter. What.

For some, evidently not.
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Total open communication is occurring daily. The 3 Aircraft carries off the coast, B1 and B2 flybys all reaffirm the message. Behave or else.

The only time war occurs is when we act meek.
 

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