What's Wrong With Talking To North Korea?...

[Dschrute3]

Kinda sad so many Americans are in such a rush for more war. Why do Americans love war so much? It's a very interesting question. While pondering that, check out this article.


By Jonathan Marshall

Anyone who says talk is cheap hasn’t tried getting President Trump to talk with his North Korean counterpart, Kim Jong Un. Not even the specter of a war that could kill millions of people on the Korean peninsula, Japan and now even the continental United States seems sufficient to push the two leaders into negotiations. Both sides insist on unacceptable preconditions before they will even consider holding formal talks to reach a peaceful settlement.

Successful negotiations might end Washington’s economic sanctions and military preparations against North Korea, but Pyongyang demands that outcome before it even starts talks. Two weeks ago, North Korea’s ambassador to the United Nations, Han Tae Song, said, “As long as there is continuous hostile policy against my country by the U.S. and as long as there are continued war games at our doorstep, then there will not be negotiations.”

On the other hand, the fact that South Korea sent seven warships in mid-November to join three U.S. aircraft carriers for war games off the coast of the Korean Peninsula almost seemed calculated to keep Pyongyang away from the bargaining table. U.S. and South Korean plans to start a massive five-day air force exercise on Dec. 4 will doubtless do the same. And the Trump administration’s recent designation of North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism...

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[Mac1958]

If there is a chance to talk to a foreign leader, then you talk to the foreign leader. Period.

There's no rule that they have to be your favorite person. But if they control the country, that's that.
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[Dschrute3]

If there is a chance to talk to a foreign leader, then you talk to the foreign leader. Period.

There's no rule that they have to be your favorite person. But if they control the country, that's that.
.

Unfortunately, that sentiment isn't being expressed by most Americans. They seem to love war. They're chomping at the bit for an attack on North Korea. I don't know how or why it happened, but it does seem most Americans gotta have their war.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Frank discussions take two willing participants

 

[Mac1958]

If there is a chance to talk to a foreign leader, then you talk to the foreign leader. Period. There's no rule that they have to be your favorite person. But if they control the country, that's that.

Unfortunately, that sentiment isn't being expressed by most Americans. They seem to love war. They're chomping at the bit for an attack on North Korea. I don't know how or why it happened, but it does seem most Americans gotta have their war.

Well, we've lost our shit.

Instant gratification is easy. The hard work of communication, humility, cooperation, reason? Yeah, not so much.
.

 

[Dschrute3]

Frank discussions take two willing participants

I think Trump designating North Korea a 'State sponsor of Terrorism' was a tragic mistake. There's no credible evidence supporting that accusation. The move may have guaranteed war.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Frank discussions take two willing participants

I think Trump designating North Korea a 'State sponsor of Terrorism' was a tragic mistake. There's no credible evidence supporting that accusation. The move may have guaranteed war.

Hasn't NK' s weapon technology been sold to Iran & Syria?

 

[saveliberty]

Gee, talk to North Korea, great idea. Wonder why no one thought of that up til now? Oh wait, we have and even have imposed sanctions on them to bring them to the table, but they do not negotiate. They don't have to, China helps them out directly or indirectly every time. Stop trying to make this a US failure.

 

[pismoe]

feck those 'norks' USA has been talking to them for the last 30 - 40 years . And feeding them once in awhile and USA has been kicked in the azz every time . With TRUMP things may finally be settled one way or the other .

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Kinda sad so many Americans are in such a rush for more war. Why do Americans love war so much? It's a very interesting question. While pondering that, check out this article.


By Jonathan Marshall

Anyone who says talk is cheap hasn’t tried getting President Trump to talk with his North Korean counterpart, Kim Jong Un. Not even the specter of a war that could kill millions of people on the Korean peninsula, Japan and now even the continental United States seems sufficient to push the two leaders into negotiations. Both sides insist on unacceptable preconditions before they will even consider holding formal talks to reach a peaceful settlement.

Successful negotiations might end Washington’s economic sanctions and military preparations against North Korea, but Pyongyang demands that outcome before it even starts talks. Two weeks ago, North Korea’s ambassador to the United Nations, Han Tae Song, said, “As long as there is continuous hostile policy against my country by the U.S. and as long as there are continued war games at our doorstep, then there will not be negotiations.”

On the other hand, the fact that South Korea sent seven warships in mid-November to join three U.S. aircraft carriers for war games off the coast of the Korean Peninsula almost seemed calculated to keep Pyongyang away from the bargaining table. U.S. and South Korean plans to start a massive five-day air force exercise on Dec. 4 will doubtless do the same. And the Trump administration’s recent designation of North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism...

Read More:
What’s Wrong With Talking to North Korea? - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

We have talked to them on and off for decades. Agreements reached have been abrogated by NK every time.

What's the definition of insanity?

 

[Dschrute3]

If there is a chance to talk to a foreign leader, then you talk to the foreign leader. Period. There's no rule that they have to be your favorite person. But if they control the country, that's that.

Unfortunately, that sentiment isn't being expressed by most Americans. They seem to love war. They're chomping at the bit for an attack on North Korea. I don't know how or why it happened, but it does seem most Americans gotta have their war.

Well, we've lost our shit.

Instant gratification is easy. The hard work of communication, humility, cooperation, reason? Yeah, not so much.
.

Well said. It's much easier to just label a leader you disagree with, as 'The New Hitler' and start dropping bombs on em. In my years of observation, it seems that any world leader refusing to be a US/West Puppet, is immediately targeted for death. You either go along with the US/West, or you're dead. Kim Jong-Un is just next on the death list.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Kinda sad so many Americans are in such a rush for more war. Why do Americans love war so much? It's a very interesting question. While pondering that, check out this article.


By Jonathan Marshall

Anyone who says talk is cheap hasn’t tried getting President Trump to talk with his North Korean counterpart, Kim Jong Un. Not even the specter of a war that could kill millions of people on the Korean peninsula, Japan and now even the continental United States seems sufficient to push the two leaders into negotiations. Both sides insist on unacceptable preconditions before they will even consider holding formal talks to reach a peaceful settlement.

Successful negotiations might end Washington’s economic sanctions and military preparations against North Korea, but Pyongyang demands that outcome before it even starts talks. Two weeks ago, North Korea’s ambassador to the United Nations, Han Tae Song, said, “As long as there is continuous hostile policy against my country by the U.S. and as long as there are continued war games at our doorstep, then there will not be negotiations.”

On the other hand, the fact that South Korea sent seven warships in mid-November to join three U.S. aircraft carriers for war games off the coast of the Korean Peninsula almost seemed calculated to keep Pyongyang away from the bargaining table. U.S. and South Korean plans to start a massive five-day air force exercise on Dec. 4 will doubtless do the same. And the Trump administration’s recent designation of North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism...

Read More:
What’s Wrong With Talking to North Korea? - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

History is filled with talkers.

And the pinnacle of talks concerning the OP:

 

[Dschrute3]

Frank discussions take two willing participants

I think Trump designating North Korea a 'State sponsor of Terrorism' was a tragic mistake. There's no credible evidence supporting that accusation. The move may have guaranteed war.

Hasn't NK' s weapon technology been sold to Iran & Syria?

We sell weapons to bad folks around the world every day. There's no credible evidence North Korea has ever 'sponsored' any terrorist org. In fact, i could argue there's far more evidence showing the US and 'allies' like Saudi Arabia, providing weapons and cash to terror orgs.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Frank discussions take two willing participants

I think Trump designating North Korea a 'State sponsor of Terrorism' was a tragic mistake. There's no credible evidence supporting that accusation. The move may have guaranteed war.

Hasn't NK' s weapon technology been sold to Iran & Syria?

We sell weapons to bad folks around the world every day. There's no credible evidence North Korea has ever 'sponsored' any terrorist org. In fact, i could argue there's far more evidence showing the US ... providing weapons and cash to terror orgs.

Perhaps, but Obama is no longer president.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Talking =/= giving money

No money for those idiots....ever. I don't care how much they bitch, piss, or sabre-rattle. NO MONEY!!!

 

[Rocko]

If there is a chance to talk to a foreign leader, then you talk to the foreign leader. Period.

There's no rule that they have to be your favorite person. But if they control the country, that's that.
.

Experts in diplomacy disagree

 

[Dschrute3]

Kinda sad so many Americans are in such a rush for more war. Why do Americans love war so much? It's a very interesting question. While pondering that, check out this article.


By Jonathan Marshall

Anyone who says talk is cheap hasn’t tried getting President Trump to talk with his North Korean counterpart, Kim Jong Un. Not even the specter of a war that could kill millions of people on the Korean peninsula, Japan and now even the continental United States seems sufficient to push the two leaders into negotiations. Both sides insist on unacceptable preconditions before they will even consider holding formal talks to reach a peaceful settlement.

Successful negotiations might end Washington’s economic sanctions and military preparations against North Korea, but Pyongyang demands that outcome before it even starts talks. Two weeks ago, North Korea’s ambassador to the United Nations, Han Tae Song, said, “As long as there is continuous hostile policy against my country by the U.S. and as long as there are continued war games at our doorstep, then there will not be negotiations.”

On the other hand, the fact that South Korea sent seven warships in mid-November to join three U.S. aircraft carriers for war games off the coast of the Korean Peninsula almost seemed calculated to keep Pyongyang away from the bargaining table. U.S. and South Korean plans to start a massive five-day air force exercise on Dec. 4 will doubtless do the same. And the Trump administration’s recent designation of North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism...

Read More:
What’s Wrong With Talking to North Korea? - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

We have talked to them on and off for decades. Agreements reached have been abrogated by NK every time.

What's the definition of insanity?

Can't hurt to talk.

 

[Dschrute3]

Kinda sad so many Americans are in such a rush for more war. Why do Americans love war so much? It's a very interesting question. While pondering that, check out this article.


By Jonathan Marshall

Anyone who says talk is cheap hasn’t tried getting President Trump to talk with his North Korean counterpart, Kim Jong Un. Not even the specter of a war that could kill millions of people on the Korean peninsula, Japan and now even the continental United States seems sufficient to push the two leaders into negotiations. Both sides insist on unacceptable preconditions before they will even consider holding formal talks to reach a peaceful settlement.

Successful negotiations might end Washington’s economic sanctions and military preparations against North Korea, but Pyongyang demands that outcome before it even starts talks. Two weeks ago, North Korea’s ambassador to the United Nations, Han Tae Song, said, “As long as there is continuous hostile policy against my country by the U.S. and as long as there are continued war games at our doorstep, then there will not be negotiations.”

On the other hand, the fact that South Korea sent seven warships in mid-November to join three U.S. aircraft carriers for war games off the coast of the Korean Peninsula almost seemed calculated to keep Pyongyang away from the bargaining table. U.S. and South Korean plans to start a massive five-day air force exercise on Dec. 4 will doubtless do the same. And the Trump administration’s recent designation of North Korea as a state sponsor of terrorism...

Read More:
What’s Wrong With Talking to North Korea? - LewRockwell LewRockwell.com

History is filled with talkers.

And the pinnacle of talks concerning the OP:

Ah, same ole Warmonger shite. Anyone who won't go along, just has to be 'The New Hitler.' I'm over that.

 

[Dschrute3]

Frank discussions take two willing participants

I think Trump designating North Korea a 'State sponsor of Terrorism' was a tragic mistake. There's no credible evidence supporting that accusation. The move may have guaranteed war.

Hasn't NK' s weapon technology been sold to Iran & Syria?

We sell weapons to bad folks around the world every day. There's no credible evidence North Korea has ever 'sponsored' any terrorist org. In fact, i could argue there's far more evidence showing the US ... providing weapons and cash to terror orgs.

Perhaps, but Obama is no longer president.

Nah, don't kid yourself. The US sells weapons to anyone. Just do some research and you'll quickly see that the US and 'allies' like Saudi Arabia, have been funding & arming terror orgs for years. There's much more evidence proving that than there is proving North Korea has 'sponsored' terror orgs.

 

[Mac1958]

Can't hurt to talk.

You would think that we'd want to be communicating absolutely as openly as possible until the very last moment.

With millions and millions of lives on the line. No. Matter. What.

For some, evidently not.
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