What's Wrong With Liberalism?

[Delta4Embassy]

Nothing if you enjoy receiving Social Security and other governmental benefits, or are worker and not management. People who bash liberalism either don't know what liberalism is, or are so rich any tax hike pisses them off. But since most people need their GI Bill, Social Security, Medicare, retirement pensions, labor unions, etc. liberals are the bees knees.

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." - Napolean Bonaparte

Let's confine our discussion to the United States.

The only document that the people of the nation agreed to be governed by is the Constitution.
Article 1, section 8 enumerates the powers of the national government.

Which of the programs you've indicated are authorized by the above, or by an amendment to the Constitution, as, for example, income taxation was?

If not, why not?




BTW...
Your Napoleon quote is nonsense.....there is no perennial group known as 'the rich' in this nation.
The reference is a bête noire designed to focus the hate of the envious.

Seems you've fallen for it.

So if the racist slave owners who wrote the Constitution (and said slaves are only counted as three-fifths a free man) didn't write it, we should repeal it? Well there goes 99% of law then. While I'm all for simplification, I'm not sure that much simplification would actually improve things.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nothing if you enjoy receiving Social Security and other governmental benefits, or are worker and not management. People who bash liberalism either don't know what liberalism is, or are so rich any tax hike pisses them off. But since most people need their GI Bill, Social Security, Medicare, retirement pensions, labor unions, etc. liberals are the bees knees.

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." - Napolean Bonaparte

Let's confine our discussion to the United States.

The only document that the people of the nation agreed to be governed by is the Constitution.
Article 1, section 8 enumerates the powers of the national government.

Which of the programs you've indicated are authorized by the above, or by an amendment to the Constitution, as, for example, income taxation was?

If not, why not?




BTW...
Your Napoleon quote is nonsense.....there is no perennial group known as 'the rich' in this nation.
The reference is a bête noire designed to focus the hate of the envious.

Seems you've fallen for it.

So if the racist slave owners who wrote the Constitution (and said slaves are only counted as three-fifths a free man) didn't write it, we should repeal it? Well there goes 99% of law then. While I'm all for simplification, I'm not sure that much simplification would actually improve things.

What a pity you didn't educate yourself before resorting to slander of the Founders, the authors of the greatest political document ever written.




1. "So if the racist slave owners who wrote the Constitution...."
The presumption of an anti-American dunce.

Usually, the ‘Founders’ refers to these six: Madison, Jefferson and Washington, Adams, Hamilton, and Franklin.

a. The three non-Southerners worked tirelessly against slavery.

b. While reading Ron Chernow’s book Alexander Hamilton, though, I found out that Hamilton was a strong advocate for the abolition of slavery. During the 1780s, Hamilton was one of the founders of the New York Society for Promoting the Manumission of Slaves, which was instrumental in the abolition of slavery in the state of New York.
Alexander Hamilton and the New York Manumission Society | Angelolopez's Weblog

c. Many of the other Founding Fathers were activists like Alexander Hamilton. In 1787 Benjamin Franklin agree to serve as president of the Pennsylvania Abolition Society, which set out to abolish slavery and set up programs to help freed slaves to become good citizens and improve the conditions of free African Americans.

On February 12, 1790, Benjamin Franklin and the Pennsylvania Abolition Society presented a petition to the House of Representatives calling for the federal government to take steps for the gradual abolition of slavery and end the slave trade.

As a young lawyer, Thomas Jefferson represented a slave in court attempting to be set free and during the 1770s and 1780s, Jefferson had made several attempts to pass legislation to gradually abolish slavery and end the slave trade. John Jay was the first president of the New York Manumission Society and was active in Society’s efforts to abolish slavery. Ibid.



2. An excellent read on the matter is a brilliant book called "Miracle in Philadelphia", by Catherine Drinker Bowen, which recounts the actual history and debates around the Constitutional Convention in 1787.

Slavery was a huge issue during that convention, and many of the Founding Fathers wanted it outlawed, but ran into an impasse after many hours of debate with the southern colonies whose agricultural productivity depended on it.

The Founders who wanted to set the stage for the abolition of slavery came up with a compromise involving the issue of apportionment.

The southern colonies that favored slavery wanted all residents of their states, slave and free, counted equally when it came to deciding how many seats they were going to receive in Congress. Some of the northern colonies, who mostly had few slaves and thus nothing to lose didn’t want slave residents counted at all.

The Founder’s compromise was to count each slave as 3/5 of a man for the purposes of apportionment, and when that passed after a great deal more debate and lobbying, legislators from the slave states were permanently limited to a minority. With that one stroke, the state was set for slavery’s eventual demise, and the proof of how effective it was came in 1804, when the slave states were powerless to stop Congress from outlawing the importation of slaves to the new nation.

The stage was set, even if it took 70 years and a bloody war.
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3. "Well there goes 99% of law then."
Caselaw?

Really.

Caselaw is the illegitimate child of the Progressive Era.
It's parents were Roscoe Pound and Christopher Columbus Langdell.

Not a chance in the world that you know who they were and what they did.
Educate yourself.

 

[candycorn]

Nothing if you enjoy receiving Social Security and other governmental benefits, or are worker and not management. People who bash liberalism either don't know what liberalism is, or are so rich any tax hike pisses them off. But since most people need their GI Bill, Social Security, Medicare, retirement pensions, labor unions, etc. liberals are the bees knees.

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." - Napolean Bonaparte

Americans want more government than they aer willing to pay for. It's really that simple.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Nothing if you enjoy receiving Social Security and other governmental benefits, or are worker and not management. People who bash liberalism either don't know what liberalism is, or are so rich any tax hike pisses them off. But since most people need their GI Bill, Social Security, Medicare, retirement pensions, labor unions, etc. liberals are the bees knees.

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." - Napolean Bonaparte

Americans want more government than they aer willing to pay for. It's really that simple.

You are truly amazing!


From choosing a slut as your avi to the absurdity you just posted.....


...amazing how truly dumb you are!


"In U.S., Fear of Big Government at Near-Record Level"
"WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans' concerns about the threat of big government continue to dwarf those about big business and big labor, and by an even larger margin now than in March 2009. The 64% of Americans who say big government will be the biggest threat to the country...."
In U.S., Fear of Big Government at Near-Record Level


I would rather Amy Winehouse do my Lasik surgery than rely on you for advice.....

 

[candycorn]

Nothing if you enjoy receiving Social Security and other governmental benefits, or are worker and not management. People who bash liberalism either don't know what liberalism is, or are so rich any tax hike pisses them off. But since most people need their GI Bill, Social Security, Medicare, retirement pensions, labor unions, etc. liberals are the bees knees.

"Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich." - Napolean Bonaparte

Americans want more government than they aer willing to pay for. It's really that simple.

You are truly amazing!
From choosing a slut as your avi to the absurdity you just posted.....
...amazing how truly dumb you are!
"In U.S., Fear of Big Government at Near-Record Level"
"WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans' concerns about the threat of big government continue to dwarf those about big business and big labor, and by an even larger margin now than in March 2009. The 64% of Americans who say big government will be the biggest threat to the country...."
In U.S., Fear of Big Government at Near-Record Level


I would rather Amy Winehouse do my Lasik surgery than rely on you for advice.....

Fear and hatred...all the conservatives preach. You scared, sad, moron.

 

[PixieStix]

What is wrong with liberalism?.... is that the "progressives" have hijacked it, and the liberals are unaware of it, or....... they have all been cloned

 

[PoliticalChic]

Americans want more government than they aer willing to pay for. It's really that simple.

You are truly amazing!
From choosing a slut as your avi to the absurdity you just posted.....
...amazing how truly dumb you are!
"In U.S., Fear of Big Government at Near-Record Level"
"WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Americans' concerns about the threat of big government continue to dwarf those about big business and big labor, and by an even larger margin now than in March 2009. The 64% of Americans who say big government will be the biggest threat to the country...."
In U.S., Fear of Big Government at Near-Record Level


I would rather Amy Winehouse do my Lasik surgery than rely on you for advice.....

Fear and hatred...all the conservatives preach. You scared, sad, moron.

Here....let me help you with that.


Conservatism is based on individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


You should write that down.