What's the difference?

WillReadmore

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Our nation is clearly a Christian majority nation.

So, it is worthwhile to look at how our religion affects the way we think about our various policies - our policy on issues such as trade, health care, defense, social problems, democracy, etc.

In fact we should be able to look at what we DO and see that we are Christian.

Of course, that's a high bar and we are humans, so we're certainly not going to be perfect. But, at the least we should think about what our religion demands of us regarding these national issues. And, today it seems that "make America great again" is being thought of as somewhat limited to financial gain.

So, what must our Christian position be regarding today's issues?

What should our Christian objectives be regarding the top issues of today - health care, racial equality, equality in democracy (vs., say, gerrymandering), etc.???
 
To base your world-view on ancient mythology shows a sad lack of insight. Why not the adventures of Zeus or Vishnu?
The world would be a much better place, I must admit, if all governments subscribed to the teachings of the Buddha, but Christianity, including as it does the barbarism of the Old Testament, is hardly better than Islam.
No place in an enlightened world for these nihilist philosophies.
 
Our nation is clearly a Christian majority nation.

So, it is worthwhile to look at how our religion affects the way we think about our various policies - our policy on issues such as trade, health care, defense, social problems, democracy, etc.

In fact we should be able to look at what we DO and see that we are Christian.

Of course, that's a high bar and we are humans, so we're certainly not going to be perfect. But, at the least we should think about what our religion demands of us regarding these national issues. And, today it seems that "make America great again" is being thought of as somewhat limited to financial gain.

So, what must our Christian position be regarding today's issues?

What should our Christian objectives be regarding the top issues of today - health care, racial equality, equality in democracy (vs., say, gerrymandering), etc.???

If these people followed Jesus as he would have wanted
-We should help the poor with healthcare
-We should treat everyone equally and fairly
-We should help everyone to vote
 
Our nation is clearly a Christian majority nation.

So, it is worthwhile to look at how our religion affects the way we think about our various policies - our policy on issues such as trade, health care, defense, social problems, democracy, etc.

In fact we should be able to look at what we DO and see that we are Christian.

Of course, that's a high bar and we are humans, so we're certainly not going to be perfect. But, at the least we should think about what our religion demands of us regarding these national issues. And, today it seems that "make America great again" is being thought of as somewhat limited to financial gain.

So, what must our Christian position be regarding today's issues?

What should our Christian objectives be regarding the top issues of today - health care, racial equality, equality in democracy (vs., say, gerrymandering), etc.???

If these people followed Jesus as he would have wanted
-We should help the poor with healthcare
-We should treat everyone equally and fairly
-We should help everyone to vote

Ah far left religious dogma being used to explain another religion!
 
Our nation is clearly a Christian majority nation.

So, it is worthwhile to look at how our religion affects the way we think about our various policies - our policy on issues such as trade, health care, defense, social problems, democracy, etc.

In fact we should be able to look at what we DO and see that we are Christian.

Of course, that's a high bar and we are humans, so we're certainly not going to be perfect. But, at the least we should think about what our religion demands of us regarding these national issues. And, today it seems that "make America great again" is being thought of as somewhat limited to financial gain.

So, what must our Christian position be regarding today's issues?

What should our Christian objectives be regarding the top issues of today - health care, racial equality, equality in democracy (vs., say, gerrymandering), etc.???

If these people followed Jesus as he would have wanted
-We should help the poor with healthcare
-We should treat everyone equally and fairly
-We should help everyone to vote

If these people followed Jesus as he would have wanted, they wouldn't have healthcare based on lies or unexpectedly be too expensive for most people.

Also, Jesus would expect only citizens to vote and prove it to be sure that the election was fair.
 
Our nation is clearly a Christian majority nation.

So, it is worthwhile to look at how our religion affects the way we think about our various policies - our policy on issues such as trade, health care, defense, social problems, democracy, etc.

In fact we should be able to look at what we DO and see that we are Christian.

Of course, that's a high bar and we are humans, so we're certainly not going to be perfect. But, at the least we should think about what our religion demands of us regarding these national issues. And, today it seems that "make America great again" is being thought of as somewhat limited to financial gain.

So, what must our Christian position be regarding today's issues?

What should our Christian objectives be regarding the top issues of today - health care, racial equality, equality in democracy (vs., say, gerrymandering), etc.???

If these people followed Jesus as he would have wanted
-We should help the poor with healthcare
-We should treat everyone equally and fairly
-We should help everyone to vote

If these people followed Jesus as he would have wanted, they wouldn't have healthcare based on lies or unexpectedly be too expensive for most people.

Also, Jesus would expect only citizens to vote and prove it to be sure that the election was fair.

Jesus always seems to be in agreement with whoever's pontificating at the moment.
 
To base your world-view on ancient mythology shows a sad lack of insight. Why not the adventures of Zeus or Vishnu?
The world would be a much better place, I must admit, if all governments subscribed to the teachings of the Buddha, but Christianity, including as it does the barbarism of the Old Testament, is hardly better than Islam.
No place in an enlightened world for these nihilist philosophies.
I'm not attempting to address that at all.

We ARE a Christian majority nation.

Christianity DOES include values that are important.

What I want to talk about is how Christians in America should be making a positive difference our direction. What should Christians be saying about objectives for health care policy? What should Christians be saying about "black lives matter"? What should Christians be saying about the various issues we have today?

More generally, how can we ensure that when people look at American they say to themselves, "Hmm. They must be Christians. And, I want to be part of that."
 
To base your world-view on ancient mythology shows a sad lack of insight. Why not the adventures of Zeus or Vishnu?
The world would be a much better place, I must admit, if all governments subscribed to the teachings of the Buddha, but Christianity, including as it does the barbarism of the Old Testament, is hardly better than Islam.
No place in an enlightened world for these nihilist philosophies.
Christianity effectively determined the value system of Western civilization.

For the first hundred and fifty years in America's history, the Puritans, more than any other colonists, directed our national character. They wrote most of the literature of the era, and presented to their progeny the usefulness of social compact theory. America's first age is really the Puritan Age.

Hearth and home defined their way of life, and Americans remained faithful to their simple, rustic lifestyle into the Industrial Revolution. Even in the 20th century, the United States was, by many accounts, the world's most Christian nation.

Because of this ancient mythology, the world is a better place.
 
Our nation is clearly a Christian majority nation.

So, it is worthwhile to look at how our religion affects the way we think about our various policies - our policy on issues such as trade, health care, defense, social problems, democracy, etc.

In fact we should be able to look at what we DO and see that we are Christian.

Of course, that's a high bar and we are humans, so we're certainly not going to be perfect. But, at the least we should think about what our religion demands of us regarding these national issues. And, today it seems that "make America great again" is being thought of as somewhat limited to financial gain.

So, what must our Christian position be regarding today's issues?

What should our Christian objectives be regarding the top issues of today - health care, racial equality, equality in democracy (vs., say, gerrymandering), etc.???

If these people followed Jesus as he would have wanted
-We should help the poor with healthcare
-We should treat everyone equally and fairly
-We should help everyone to vote

If these people followed Jesus as he would have wanted, they wouldn't have healthcare based on lies or unexpectedly be too expensive for most people.

Also, Jesus would expect only citizens to vote and prove it to be sure that the election was fair.
Yes, I agree. I'm not an ACA fan.

ALL other nations deliver health care to ALL their citizens - 100% participation. And, being rejected for inability to pay an insurance company is not part of the equation.

Also, getting sick or having a preexisting condition is not seen by other nations as an excuse for denying health care.
 
To base your world-view on ancient mythology shows a sad lack of insight. Why not the adventures of Zeus or Vishnu?
The world would be a much better place, I must admit, if all governments subscribed to the teachings of the Buddha, but Christianity, including as it does the barbarism of the Old Testament, is hardly better than Islam.
No place in an enlightened world for these nihilist philosophies.
Christianity effectively determined the value system of Western civilization.

For the first hundred and fifty years in America's history, the Puritans, more than any other colonists, directed our national character. They wrote most of the literature of the era, and presented to their progeny the usefulness of social compact theory. America's first age is really the Puritan Age.

Hearth and home defined their way of life, and Americans remained faithful to their simple, rustic lifestyle into the Industrial Revolution. Even in the 20th century, the United States was, by many accounts, the world's most Christian nation.

Because of this ancient mythology, the world is a better place.
I'm not trying to assault any religion. Western style religion clearly had a strong role in causing our advancement, even though most of the novelty of American government is not motivated by the Bible.

I'm more interested in what Christianity has to offer today. Maybe this is a little like asking WWJD, or perhaps more accurately, what is expected of us.
 
Come on, folks.

Surely Christianity has something to offer us today.

And, given that we're a Christian majority nation, this should be of SERIOUS interest.
 
Come on, folks.

Surely Christianity has something to offer us today.

And, given that we're a Christian majority nation, this should be of SERIOUS interest.
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And, given that we're a Christian majority nation, this should be of SERIOUS interest.


your sincerity wains with your blatant provocation, and if true you have not solved a problem but simply highlighted its source.
 
Come on, folks.

Surely Christianity has something to offer us today.

And, given that we're a Christian majority nation, this should be of SERIOUS interest.
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And, given that we're a Christian majority nation, this should be of SERIOUS interest.


your sincerity wains with your blatant provocation, and if true you have not solved a problem but simply highlighted its source.
Well, I really don't see Christianity as a source of problems, if that's what you mean.

It's more that we find it easy to forget all religion and focus on aggregating wealth and power - being human and all.

Regardless of whether there is a God or whether Jesus was a human, we could do a whole lot worse than thinking about the message Jesus communicated concerning how we should approach life on earth.
 
Jesus was a socialist. He believed everyone should care about his brother.
To be socialism there has to be collective ownership of means of production.

We just use that word because we hate helping each other and can't find any excuse.

But, I think I get your point.

What the right wing calls "socialism" is what Jesus advocated.

Which really should leave the right wing gasping for air.
 
Will, you seem to be confusing socialism with communism.
But you're certainly correct about the right and their version of Christianity.
Jesus must be turning in his grave. No,wait, he didn't do that rotting thing, did he?
Wonder if he was there to welcome Mahommed when he arrived on his flying horse?
 

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