What's So Wrong With Ron Paul? "Reality Check" On Ron Paul...

imho My main compalint with RP is his belief that industry should be virtually unregulated or self regulated and history has shown this to happen only at the expense of consumers, workers and the environment.
 
It seems so many Americans want Freedom & Democracy for the rest of the World but don't care much about that right here at home. Yea sure,we gave em all Freedom but what good has that done for us here? Americans have gotten distracted and have taken their eye off the ball. We've only seen our Freedom rapidly erode the last 20yrs. or so. I'm much more concerned with that.
 
Paul also has a ‘out of the frying pan, into the fire’ problem: he fulminates against the ‘evils’ of Federal government yet wishes to subject Americans to the capricious will of state and local government, historically the most likely to violate citizens’ civil liberties.

Paul is clearly ignorance of the doctrine of the rule of law, that even if a majority in a given state elect to ban abortion or same-sex marriage, for example, simple majorities may not determine the rights of others. See: West Virginia Board of Education vs. Barnette (1943).

An American may not have his civil liberties violated simply as a consequence of his state of residence.

We've only seen our Freedom rapidly erode the last 20yr

Nonsense.

If anything we’ve seen the further protection of our civil liberties, Casey, Romer, Lawrence, and Boumediene are but a few examples.
 
Paul also has a ‘out of the frying pan, into the fire’ problem: he fulminates against the ‘evils’ of Federal government yet wishes to subject Americans to the capricious will of state and local government, historically the most likely to violate citizens’ civil liberties.

Paul is clearly ignorance of the doctrine of the rule of law, that even if a majority in a given state elect to ban abortion or same-sex marriage, for example, simple majorities may not determine the rights of others. See: West Virginia Board of Education vs. Barnette (1943).

An American may not have his civil liberties violated simply as a consequence of his state of residence.

We've only seen our Freedom rapidly erode the last 20yr

Nonsense.

If anything we’ve seen the further protection of our civil liberties, Casey, Romer, Lawrence, and Boumediene are but a few examples.

I disagree. The Patriot Act has eliminated many of the rights we expect to have here in America. Take a closer look around sometime. You can't seem to do anything or go anywhere without bumping into the Government. It's everywhere now. The Government has simply gotten too big. It now interferes with way too much of our lives. Our Government is supposed to be for the People not against the People. Now we're all treated like criminals. Wait till the next Terrorist attack. We will become a full-blown Police/Prison State. We're already moving in that direction pretty quickly. This is what concerns me most. I don't want my country being the 'World's Policeman/Referee' anymore. We need to start worrying about own Freedom & Democracy right here at home.
 
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Here's a good recent interview...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcgjF-IINNw]Ron Paul Interview Today On Fox News Sunday - YouTube[/ame]
 
Both tactical & strategic preventative military technology has changed dramatically. People will always be at war for 85% of people don't think for themselves. Those people are called 'sheeple'... always looking for a Fuhrer to follow. If people are stupid enough not to think for themselves & fail to demand a Liberty based society based on non aggression... then they will get all the war they want.
The USA is offering a welfarian mentality to other countries. People that don't fight their own fights will never learn individual responsibility. ONLY when people lose their own loved ones to war will they smarten up & take responsibility into their own hands for their lack of common sense.
Don't forget it was Hitler that coined the phrase... "Preemptive war' on Sept. 1st 1939.

Uh, Ron Paul said he will slash the DoD budget which pretty much make it a pre-WWII military geared to protect our borders......until it is too late. We got lucky in WWII that Hitler made serious tactical mistakes with Russia, thus lost WWII.

Most of us learned our lesson that a forward projected military prevents MASSIVE wars that endanger the US and its allies. Pull back the US and you will see a massive war or two in Asia, the middle east and Europe.

But of course a massive war in Asia or Europe where our trading partners are invaded won't do squat to your lifestyle here....:eusa_whistle:

Ron NEVER said the USA would cut navy or military technology research, let alone intelligence. The USA is NOT the worlds policeman. It's up to INDIVIDUAL countries to protect themselves. If the baltic states desire to form their own military coalition, let em do so! Ron gets in & he'll push to open up our own crude extraction & refinement facilities as the EPA will be no more.
The notion that the nations will destroy themselves without the USA to play the role of global disciplinarian is ridiculous. There always has been military conflicts such as is going on in the continent of Africa at current. Countries like Rwanda need to learn LIBERTY & that comes in blood. Enough blood shed & they'll smarten up & go the way of liberty & peace... just as the USA ONCE did.

The crazy shit done by the TSA has nothing to do with Ron Paul claiming we need to pull our military back from every foreign base.

That is nuts, even something leftists like Obamination realize is idiotic.

We are overseas to maintain the peace and keep the flow of commerce open. Countries like Russia, China, Iran, etc would gladly move into places we abandon if we left town.

See what happened in WWII. Countries like Germany, Italy and Japan took advantage of the sleeping giant in the USA not paying attention to their endeavors into neighboring countries.

Today militaries are even more advanced so moving in and taking over a country is even easier and faster. See what Russia did to Georgia right under the nose of NATO. I doubt the Baltic states that are constantly threatened by Russia would love to see no US forces propping up NATO in Europe.....or Japan having to deal with China on their own.

Want to see $20/gal gas at the pump...well let Iran take over the GCC nations with no US Navy keeping the sea lanes there open.
 
Here's an older one. The banned ABC interview...

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6a9549ZeqQ]1/6 Ron Paul 20/20 Banned ABC News Interview - YouTube[/ame]
 
....but when he ignores the US role around the world in maintaining world peace and helping maintain FREE markets for the world, then he is toast.
Our Military is there to protect Free Markets? How does that work? :confused:
As the Commander in Chief he can set DoD policy on what we will do with the military.Congress just funds the operations, but the POTUS tells the DoD how to execute those operations.
Wrong. As Ron Paul has pointed out, The President goes to Congress and asks THEM to declare war. It's in the Constitution but you're so used to Presidents disregarding it (Clinton, Obama) that you've forgotten about it.
If Ron Paul says we won't stop Iran from getting a nuke like he's said, well then Iran will be nuking Israel and probably us in the near future.
Just like they said about N. Korea. Now that N. Korea has nukes tell us, how many countries have they nuked? :confused:
South Korea is a major trading partner and if North Korea was able to steal their technology, people and land via invasion....you'd have a bigger mess on your hands in Asia. Maybe we don't want a bigger nuclear power in North Korea....what a concept.

Japan would be GONE within a year if NK took over SK.
Why would the North invade the South when they operate a joint Manufacturing Facility in North Korea? Or is that the "free markets" that you said the Military was to be protecting? :confused:
 
Ron Paul is far from perfect, but he gets my support for his willingness to take on the military -industrial complex. The commercial candidates won't even talk about it.
 
ron paul is the only one that knows what he is doing. If he doesn't become president...well lets just say America will always deserve the government it gets. This concept is universal. I hope Americans are intelligent enough to not vote for their own demise by not voting for Ron Paul.
 
I think the biggest problem is that many in both parties support Big Government but then get upset when Big Government wants to take more control of their lives. It's a 'Cake and eat it too' mentality. But you can't have it both ways. You either want the Big Government control or you don't. Your opinion on it shouldn't be decided on convenience alone. The Socialists/Progressives and Neocons created this out of control Big Government and i think it's time for some real change. This is why i like Dr. Paul.
 
Uh, what?

Nukes are easy to knock out of the sky? You mean the missiles that carry the nuclear warhead.....but even that is a LIE.

You have no clue about BMD. I've worked BMD and you have no clue what you're babbling about.

As the Commander in Chief he can set DoD policy on what we will do with the military.

Congress just funds the operations, but the POTUS tells the DoD how to execute those operations.

If Ron Paul says we won't stop Iran from getting a nuke like he's said, well then Iran will be nuking Israel and probably us in the near future.

I don't fear a Ron Paul presidency. Remember all you Paul supporters and Paul haters, that the POTUS is not Caesar, he cannot just do anything he wants to. In the same way that Barack Hussin Obama couldn't close Gitmo, Paul won't be able to close all the bases and immediately end all wars and bring all troops home. What will most likely happen is that a happy medium will be reached. One that saves money, and still maintains our presence around the world.

Iran will not be nuking anyone. Even if they build a nuke, they won't use it for anything but to threaten. Nukes are so easy to knock out of the sky these days it's ridiculous.
 
We became the world's police because of WWII and the Cold War. We finally realized there are EVIL people out there and they will kill a massive amount of people and steal resources if not stopped.

As the world's largest democracy and an economic power, we have to lead the way in creating a free and open world. We are the counter to the islamo fascists that want to go back to the stone ages, we are the counter to the socialists/communists that want to destroy our free society for some fake utopia, we are the counter to any nut out there that wants to kill innocent people and steal resources.

So we have to have the best military on this planet and it needs to be placed around the world for quick and efficient responses. It is more expensive to bring troops from the USA to a fight in Asia than to use troops already in Asia with support coming from the troops in the USA.

Why don't we focus on bringing more Freedom & Democracy back to our own Nation? Lets get over this neverending 'World's Policeman/Referee' stuff. As technology advances and Government continues to grow,we will lose more & more of our Freedom & Liberty. Take a closer look around sometime. It's already happening.
 
Let me sum you up...

Military experience - None
Security Clearance - None
Military Education - None

Hitler loved idiots like you back in the 1930s, your kind was telling other Americans to stay out of "Europe's business." He just rolled his tanks into his neighbors one country at a time while we watched back here, until Pearl Harbor. Oh, you'll claim that was an inside job, right? Buuuuuuuuush did it, well his grandpa did it.

Sounds like you nuts today with Iran, etc.....

Both tactical & strategic preventative military technology has changed dramatically. People will always be at war for 85% of people don't think for themselves. Those people are called 'sheeple'... always looking for a Fuhrer to follow. If people are stupid enough not to think for themselves & fail to demand a Liberty based society based on non aggression... then they will get all the war they want.
The USA is offering a welfarian mentality to other countries. People that don't fight their own fights will never learn individual responsibility. ONLY when people lose their own loved ones to war will they smarten up & take responsibility into their own hands for their lack of common sense.
Don't forget it was Hitler that coined the phrase... "Preemptive war' on Sept. 1st 1939.

Uh, Ron Paul said he will slash the DoD budget which pretty much make it a pre-WWII military geared to protect our borders......until it is too late. We got lucky in WWII that Hitler made serious tactical mistakes with Russia, thus lost WWII.

Most of us learned our lesson that a forward projected military prevents MASSIVE wars that endanger the US and its allies. Pull back the US and you will see a massive war or two in Asia, the middle east and Europe.

But of course a massive war in Asia or Europe where our trading partners are invaded won't do squat to your lifestyle here....:eusa_whistle:

Ron NEVER said the USA would cut navy or military technology research, let alone intelligence. The USA is NOT the worlds policeman. It's up to INDIVIDUAL countries to protect themselves. If the baltic states desire to form their own military coalition, let em do so! Ron gets in & he'll push to open up our own crude extraction & refinement facilities as the EPA will be no more.
The notion that the nations will destroy themselves without the USA to play the role of global disciplinarian is ridiculous. There always has been military conflicts such as is going on in the continent of Africa at current. Countries like Rwanda need to learn LIBERTY & that comes in blood. Enough blood shed & they'll smarten up & go the way of liberty & peace... just as the USA ONCE did.
 
Closet liberal? :cuckoo: We don't need you working in intelligence being that dumb analyzing someone.

Oh, I insult idiots here....I am talking down to them from a position of intelligence and experience. It seems you want to be talked down to too.

Romney is better than Cain, Paul and Perry....that is all I need to know. Newt has screwed himself with past comments and his lightning rod head for Democrats/independents.

So let me guess, you're too dumb to figure out why Romney is the best option to beat Obamination. You probably fell for Perry's lame "shocker" plan to overhaul Congress OR maybe you believe Cain did NOTHING with those women that were paid off OR you think Ron Paul is not a kook.

Please tell....

Let me sum you up...
Let me sum you up:

Can do nothing but hurl insults.
Probably a Closet Liberal (Your arrogance gives you away).
Supports Romney who wrote ObamaCare before it was ObamaCare.
 
I'm amazed you can even spell Constitution or even log-on to the internet.

It must be some Obamination welfare plan in the ghetto that gives you internet access. "Build up America from the trash pile!"

Let me sum you up...

Military experience - None
Security Clearance - None
Military Education – None

Knowledge of the Constitution – None.
 

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